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Uh oh! Good thing I held onto my old MSD Gold Box just in case. BTW excellent call ! I dislike liars and cheats too if you hadn't noticed LoL  This message has been edited. Last edited by: Mike Rietow, | |||
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And there is why it won’t change. ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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Most people I know with the Grid, have two. You only need one. I'd unplug mine and let someone hold onto it, for a week or two, to inspect. No problem. | |||
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Ah so if you disagree with BLM, you must then obviously be a racist. Right? Look I don't want cheating. But instead of covering every possible cheating situation and coming up with a cure before it happens, let's address the things that we know are happening, if there are any. I also disagree with adding extra expense with additional safety gear that the statistics from accidents in OUR sport don't support. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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*Conserve* ative  | |||
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I don't disagree with that method. Wouldn't the simple first step be to have some amount of tech inspection at races? Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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Ummmmmmm, I'd have to give that some thought, to answer. Something tells me they have something much more efficient in mind. | |||
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The OP is about the starting line not dead on at the finish line. If you can’t hit the tree the stripe don’t matter therefore the discussion on tree sensing devices. Not withstanding’ dead on is also good but not if you can’t hit the tree. | |||
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I think everyone knows what the real problem is in this situation and it is not the fact that the guy driving the silver bullet was cheating with a sensor on the tree. I watched a lot of the runs and he was doing good but so was 80% of the rest of the field. From what I hear the guy in the silver bullet only won around $1500 for the weekend so if he was cheating he wasn't doing very good at it. There were guys on the grounds that had won $100,000 to $200,000 in the last few months and none of them was torn down.One guy bragged that he had beat the silver bullet 2 out of 3 times and he was also not inspected, why not. I think all this was because of the "house car" deal.The track operator allows 15 to 20 and maybe higher of the best bracket racers in the country to enter the race for free and then whatever money he wins he has to give the track operator a big percentage of the money back. And besides getting in the race free he doesn't have to worry about going through tech or being inspected after winning the race and he always gets the benefit of any decisions made during the race. This is the main reason I never attend the big money races any more.All the problems at Dragway 42 with the silver bullet was caused by the house car policy. The silver bullet beat the the big white Pontiac two times in about 10 minutes and caused the track operator to lose his main house car.Now he was afraid he was going to have to pay out the full purse and he didn't like it so he was going to try to get rid of the silver bullet.This is a big problem and there should be something done. The problem is not some guy with a sensor on the top bulb which apparently doesn't work very well. | |||
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I agree and that's what I was talking about. Rookie has an interesting and different perspective. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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I also agree, fern...46 and dead zero is still a 46 pack and a loser most likely...give me a 10 light every time and I will drive the stripe for the win most likely... | |||
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Who is this silver bullet guy? And how do you know how many cars are running? | |||
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Damn, that's a helluva fit for Hollywood movie story. The big bad Silver Bullet house car with the tree sensing device. The way it all rolls off your keyboard makes it seem so common knowledge I doubt they'd roll into Galot, with the illegal gizmo set on kill, hypothetically speaking. Put yourself in their position and critically think your way through this. I mentioned this previously in a post, if there is a gizmo how tight are you willing to set up with it, knowing there is a paper trail of evidence. I don't doubt your claims but I question your logic of how good they are at using the illegal gizmo. I mean think about it, if they win every race they enter trip zip, the people with pitch forks, eventually end up in their pit. | |||
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Whatever money he wins he has to give the track operator a big percentage ... Ya think????? | |||
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If they let you in for free, you get 35%. This arrangement has been going on forever. The promoter ain't letting in chumps for free either. If they let you in free, it's for a reason. It's an investment. As long as everyone is playing by the same rules, there's not a problem with letting in the beasts free. You want them to be there. You want the best in the race. The problem would be letting the beasts in free, and making them above the rule of law. Playing under a different set of rules. Tilting the table in their favor. | |||
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If you look at this critically. If there are illegal gizmo's now, they're only gonna get better. Eventually an illegal gizmo will be like a delay box, how tight are you willing to set up knowing there is a paper trail of evidence. If you look at the illegal gizmo from the perspective, as if they were legal. It might be a good time now to conserve fair play, I dunno. But if it isn't now, it might of been a year ago or two years ago, who knows for sure. I'd never cheat but I've come across some people without a conscience. These are the ones ya gotta watch, the psychopaths. And the psychopaths always work together like looters. Their objectives are the same, it's easy to do for them. | |||
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Da fak "Just Shut Up and Race" Brian Martin Martin Racing 5.50 126 | |||
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That's quite an accusation. But please, go on and tell us more about how a Jegs car is a house car at a Summit race.  LOL That's fascinating. You should let the promoters know that they had house cars. They'd probably be very interested to find that out!
Do people ever actually read the results? THIS is part of the problem, when people come up with this off-the-wall, "Well I heard!" BS. I glanced back at one of the DRR race days, and found 63 packages .015 or better (actually included several that were technically over .015 if you added the 4th digits). Only 4 of them were losing runs. Total runs: 469, so you're looking at 13.4% of the runs is apparently "everybody does this all the time". LOL Is it hyper competitive? Absolutely. But people are WAY overstating the case. People only pay attention to the good runs, so that's what they remember. Spring Fling GALOT 100K race... 12 .005 or better packages out of 891 runs: 1% 81 .015 or better packages out of 891 runs: 9% Yup! You've gotta be 5 pack or better, or don't leave the house! LOLThis message has been edited. Last edited by: Michael Beard, __ Michael Beard - staginglight@gmail.com Staging Light Graphic Design, Printing & Event Marketing | |||
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like I said Beard. it is all about how you pull in the lanes. 5 pack can lose and 30 pack can win. ep | |||
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Thank you MB for bringing data. This is an interesting thread. Not the topic itself really. But some of the beliefs, based upon nothing. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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