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20+ years ago when we redid Lebanon valley, I talked with bob brockmayer at the track while he installed the new timing system, he told me then that the system was smart enough to make any one a winner based on all you would have to do is not go red and keep it close on the track compulink will adjust all the numbers down track and the time slip would look right, based on that info, all you need to do is hack into the tracks timing system program and every time your car number comes up it will make you a winner , I know this is way easier than putting something on the car that could be found, just my thoughts, chuck | |||
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DRR Top Comp |
Little off topic. On the cars running dead on. I don;t see it being impossible for some. Heck I even stumbles upon a setup that did just that and was nothing but injected bbc with glide.No shift timers,no delay box and no kind of throttle control. Just did not know I was not suppose to be able to do it. Car was damn near perfect bracket car driver not so much LOL With what is basic bracket car stuff now days I can see a lot of guys being able to do so. Now cutting low dbl o and trip zips time after time again. well maybe they are that good I just don't see it as possible for human reaction to be dialed to cpl thousandths every time. America home of free. Brought to you by 2nd amendment. | |||
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A tree sensing device can be made and is no doubt being used by some people. I know it can be made because I built one back around 1990 as a project when I was in school for my Electronics degree. It was a small plastic box with a single small circuit board (that I built) powered by a 9 volt battery that had a remote mounted photo eye (sensor) that was tuned by the manufacturer for receiving yellow light frequency. I had an adjustment to null out the ambient light that would change just from time, clouds, or area lighting and to also null out the pre-stage and stage lights (they were all yellow back then). I had it wired in with the delay box trigger (button) so that it would break the circuit of the button (as if I released the button) when it detected a flash of yellow light. It was activated by pressing the transbrake button and would release on its own when it saw any yellow light. All you had to do was manually release the transbrake button before the delay box timed out to prevent it from re-engaging the transbrake. I never tried to perfect it and install it on a car because I just wanted to see if I could build it. So yeah, if I can build one back then, Lord knows what is out there today. Maybe a way to defeat one would be to randomly flash some yellow lights around the tree ??? But then again, they are probably using a laser sight at a specific bulb and not just looking for yellow light. Oh yeah, I did test it on the work bench by using my practice tree. So I know that it worked. Tim West "Wild Wild West" Racing mickeythompsontires.com tciauto.com compcams.com www.motorsportsinnovations.com | |||
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The best way to cheat would be to hack into the timing system to cause your opponent to go red. If they go red .001-.002 red,they will feel like they were close and not suspect anything. | |||
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DRR Pro |
I will agree with SL on this. I feel alot of times I can dial my car within .003. Its the dam light that is the variable. Its about time this subject was looked at real hard. 4 X Track Champion ( 2 & 2 ) 2 X Run off Winner | |||
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so I challenge you too, build the system and demonstrate it in use. | |||
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DRR Pro |
I really want someone here to do this... Interesting for sure. Bunch of smart guys here maybe DRR could the sponsor build "Just Shut Up and Race" Brian Martin Martin Racing 5.50 126 | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
Ya gotta pity the weak , with the need for defying the natural laws of the universe, in order to win a drag race. Using devices not of their own natural talent. They must be a special breed. | |||
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Athletes from the Olympics to Pro's in every sport were using drugs and various hi tech performance enhancing techniques to win... Going back 30-40 years or maybe more this was going on. Auto racing has had rules "benders" as long as there has been racing... Horses have been doped..... On and on it goes... The rub as I recall with tree sensing devices was it was no simple task really due to having a very narrow focus to aim at the bulb and changing light conditions.... Can it be done.....sure, probably but not without some hardware your not going to easily hide..... I like the thought that you hack into the computer and make your opponent red a couple thou but when you win 8-9 rounds in a row like that, that sure won't go un-noticed.... | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
Bender, did someone say Bender?  272" Spitzer 540 Chevy The Blower Shop XR1 FTI XPM Series Converter FTI Level 6 Powerglide 3.69@199 .916 60' 2017 Bradenton Heads Up Madness Open Outlaw Champ 2018 PDRA T/D #5 2019 PDRA T/D #2 2020 Retired From T/D Competition.... 2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner 2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass. | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
It doesn't make them any less weak. They cheat because they are weak, and can't win without cheating. Otherwise they wouldn't feel the need to cheat. Ya gotta pity the weak who cheat to win. Mind, body and soul. | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
No one said they weren't weak but makes no difference to them as they go home with the money. They got the cash. | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
Ya gotta pity the weak, mind, body and soul. Same as looters who break glass and steal Nike shoes or TV's. Same principle. They're weak, theft is their only recourse for winning. | |||
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| DRR Pro |
Its the money bringing this out. 25k,50k,75k,100k,250k,525k and last the million that will pay a million. Huge money will bring cheaters every single time... They dont care if they can win buy themselves. Greed is a awful thing . "Just Shut Up and Race" Brian Martin Martin Racing 5.50 126 | |||
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| DRR Pro |
Yep "Just Shut Up and Race" Brian Martin Martin Racing 5.50 126 | |||
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| DRR Pro |
"Just Shut Up and Race" Brian Martin Martin Racing 5.50 126 | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
They're no different than criminal opportunist looters who break glass and steal Nike shoes and TV's. White or black, nigs will be nigs. | |||
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Are any of you seeing the times at the Fling right now? They are giving out trip zips like candy, even the door cars. | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
Devices not of their own natural talent. Sounds Very similar to a delay box to me. LOL Footbrake To the front.  ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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Thank you Curtis  | |||
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