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Bracket Talk Bracket Talk Forum Tech Talk - by Abruzzi Looking for Dragster Tires that shake lessGo | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply | |
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Couple of things here. I just ordered my new RPM data logger for the Altered I think I may add tire temp sensors to it. Bucky, if you are still wanting to stay with the 15 inch wheel I would say try the MT 3074. It has worked very well on my Altered that ran 4.90-5.0X with 1.07 60 foot and it stopped the tire shake. Also works noticeably better in higher track temps and cooler tracks temps. The Hoosiers would get "greasy" and loose on top end when track temps get over 145 to 150* which is quite often here in Texas Summers. No problem with MT tires there. The Hoosier tires in cold humid air would hook until track temps and humidity got up there. Anything below 60* and humid got iffy and may hook or just blow away. The MT tires on my altered (Your mileage may vary) works much better at lower track temps. I have raced my car with the MT tires down into lower 50's and high 40's with no problem other than me freezing my tail off in open wheel car. I do not have any experience with the 3074 tire at faster speeds like 4.50- 4.80 but we know the Little Bubbas work well in that range. The 3074 may work but can not tell you for sure. Dragster. My hard tail Front Engine Dragster with same motor, same gear ratio, same weight did not like that same tire. Tried a bunch of stuff and ended up with the 10.5W x 33 tire and it works better. Your car is suspended I think you should try the 3074 if you are set on staying with 15 wheels. If you go to the 16 beadlocks then the Little Bubbas. Surely someone has a set you can borrow ?I would loan you mine to try if you were not so far away. I think you will be impressed with one of those two tires. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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Just curious, what compound were the Hoosiers?
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I tried the 3 different Hoosier compounds and several different sizes of the Hoosiers. D05 14.5 x 32 tried the C06 and C07? and also tried the smaller 13.5 W D05. None of those worked any good on my car. By the way my 60 foot times and ET picked up a little with the MT tires but that was not why I switched just an added bonus. I rarely ever have to abort a run with the MT tires even on those rare occasions when we run in less than ideal conditions. They just work better on my Altered. I am actually very glad I ran Hoosiers for a while. Won a lot of races with them and learned a lot about how to tune the chassis. Then when I went to MT it got much better. Win more rounds, More Races and more Championships. I am not going to tell you what is best tire for a heavier door car or really fast dragster because I do not know for sure. But for a 4.90-5.0x suspended car like my Altered do not think you can find a better tire than the 3074. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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I was just curious, I run the 3080 MT and they are great. I'm just sick of fighting with them to get a matched pair and was hoping to find another tire that works as good. The last three sets of MT's I've had to send back 2-3 sets to get a matched pair. The whole stretch them shrink them crap gets old. I do know that the guy that came up with the 18372 Hoosier new D06 compound came from MT and was the designer of the 3080 MT. I love and hate the Mickeys.
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I am surprised to see this thread back. I did not reply back in May because I had not had the car out at that time. I had worked on trying to get the hoosiers to work with quite a few people, including the chassis builder and others with much more knowledge in S/C racing than me. I could not get rid of the burnout shake, but going down the track they were not shaking. Those that I know that had similar issues all recommended trying a different tire, and the 3084 was the tire suggested for my application. I ended up switching to the M/T 3084S and they worked great. Never shook at all in the burnout, was easier to get up on the tire and felt better overall. I am not bashing the tires I had before at all, just saying what worked better for me personally. | |||
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you had the wrong Hoosier tire for the car and power all along. | |||
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I'm using the 3080 on a dragster, and while they are way better than the hoosier I was using, they aren't as good as the 16" bubbas or the fast hoosiers either when it comes to shake I think. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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Hopefully it turns on more win lights for you. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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I just have to be reasonable with 60' expectations and find what the tire likes for power application. Lots of options. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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Where are you buying them from? I would call one of the people that actually race as they get true matched sets, the ones from the big box stores typically aren't. I would reach out to the Cummings or to Travis Salter at Salter racing. Those guys are racers and make sure the rollout and sizes are matched before they ever leave. Keeping the Socialists and NEO-LIBERALS at bay with FACTS one post at a time !!! Freedom isn't free !!! Thank a veteran, they will actually appreciate it. | |||
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Good advice. I recently bought 4 tires from DeadonRaceproducts Blake Fuqua M/T’s little bubbas and they were nearly identical in rollout and build dates. Far better than trying to get tires from the big guys. Oh and the slicks have not gone flat after 2-3weeks and did not require any unusual amount of weight to balance | |||
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You got the 1 pair out of 100! emp-tees QC is non existent. It’s so bad they buy Hoosier tires that they paint their logo on for at least one of their Team drivers...  This message has been edited. Last edited by: 1320racer, | |||
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When I watched some of the last races of the year just last month, just about every dragster, AS USUAL, had M/T's on them....fast, slow...didn't much matter The 4 tires I just got were of very good quality with zero issues....and were fairly freshly made.....very easy to determine build date on a M/T How they will work or if they will hold air once run, obviously I cannot say....but I'll roll with them Your Assessment of M/T tires is totally untrue and FAKE NEWS......LOL  | |||
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Rich, you don't bracket race and HOOSIER tires DOMINATE NHRA Sportsman class racing including the class those junk bubbas were developed for. The facts and the truth is those junk tires don’t hold air and typically require excessive wheel weights to balance. Oh and the cars/class they were built for can’t get 25 passes on them before they chunk. GARBAGE!
That said, you don't have to justify your decisions and purchases to me or anyone else just don't tell me its a better tire than the Hoosier I run.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 1320racer, | |||
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Ed... My post was to say I was in agreement with Bozman who stated it was a good idea to buy tires from a racer oriented seller to avoid getting mismatched tires... I went on to state the tires I bought were a matched set and looked good an so far have held air.... I also said I see far more dragsters at bracket events on M/T's than Hoosiers or Goodyears...which to me says M/T's make a lot of racers happy.... I've been happy with them and chose them for the limited amount of racing I do anymore....If they work fine, if they don't I will chalk it up as a mistake... | |||
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My tires come right from Hoosier, either the distributor or the truck and have for the majority of the 30 years I've been racing. | |||
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Ten years ago most all of the good bracket racers here in Texas was running Hoosier. Now most all of them that are winning here in Texas are running MT. Fact. May be because the MT tires work so good in the Texas temperatures or just because they win. Probably same all over the Country. I am not stuck with any particular brand, I will run what ever works best on my car and on the tracks I race. Right now that is with out a doubt MT. Could be something else in a few years who knows? I think if you are not looking for things to improve your program you are dropping behind. I had a hook up where I could get Hoosiers real cheap so I tried several different sizes and compounds. Did not work I went to MT and pleased I did. Tire shake was one of big reasons for the Change. The other benefits was the MT tires worked better on my car in the Hot Texas heat and even better in the rare times it was cold and humid down here. Top Dragster, Pro Mod, Top Fuel may be different but for Bracket Racers MT is hard to beat right now. The original poster was "Looking for Tires that Shake Less" The answer to THAT question is MT. Period. You can beat around the bush and try to change the subject or the question. Lets do not get side tracked with other stuff he was looking for tires that shake less. We all know the answer to that. "Well Hoosiers hold air better" That was NOT the question. He wants tires that do not SHAKE as bad. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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I have yet to have any shake at all with Hoosiers and the plus is they hold air and dont chunk or blister! SloMo Hoosier launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxDWWh1N_0A | |||
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Are you going to the 1550 for this season? I'm switching to them from the 3197 MT. I hope it works out. We are planning on being in TX for the bracket race in April at US 30 in Caddo Mills then on to Extreme the following weekend. | |||
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At some point I will eventually switch to the C1550. | |||
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