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No one cares that your 79 y/o cousin isn’t vaccinated. Fact is if he gets COVID he has a greater chance of dying and not because he’s not vaxed, because of his age and compromised immune system. Now for the rest of us that aren’t self employed or living on government handouts or working for minimum wage, you either get vaxed or don’t work in most states and that’s the new normal, not likely to change soon if ever in my lifetime.
 
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A vaccination is a vaccination is a vaccination. A booster is simply a partial dose of a "vaccination"


 
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But but but vaccinated people get it too . Simply amazing ..... https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com


Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has tested positive for COVID-19 after partying without a mask in Florida...




“The Congresswoman received her booster shot this Fall and encourages everyone to get their booster and follow all CDC guidance.”

I guess she should have worn that mask on her vacation.

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Bar tender turned congress woman. What do you expect?
 
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Bar tender turned congress woman. What do you expect?

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Think her or staff got the shots? Of coarse exempt!


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But I have no doubt that deaths would have been greater along with hospitalizations without a vaccine.


We have nearly a year of actual data on deaths without the vaccine.



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But I have no doubt that deaths would have been greater along with hospitalizations without a vaccine.


We have nearly a year of actual data on deaths without the vaccine.



Pre Delta too.


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Let's not forget the NEW Omicron vaccine coming.
We better start lining up now just in case.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/c...micron-pfizer-march/

I'm sure that will be mandated also.

So let's see, 2 doses of regular covid shot, then a "booster" (= 3) then a regular flu shot (-4), then an Omicron shot (=5) and they aren't sure if you may need a second dose of the Omicron shot (=6).

Waiting for them to change the definition of fully vaxed to mean all 5 shots (maybe 6).

HMMMM


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Dr Rand Paul said yesterday that those Vaccinated are more likely to get get the new Omicron than those who are NOT vaccinated. The CDC finally admitted that 75% of all of those who died recently had FOUR or MORE Co-Morbidity issues.
Meaning that they had four or more things that could have killed them on their own.

Yesterday Biden signed a MANDATE forcing insurance companies to pay for the home Covid test up to 8 per individual per Month. I have two big problems with this. 1. How can he mandate for a company to spend Billions of dollars? 2. Where do you think that Billions of dollars will come from? Yup, raised insurance costs again just like the B@lls@ck Obama did to us. You think insurance is expensive now? Wait until they are forced to give everyone "FREE" Home Covid tests.

Yet the interbred Derelict Dictator has STILL not signed the agreement with the manufacturers to MAKE the tests! This is the most grossly incompetent "President" ever. Even worse than B@lls@ck Obama and Jimmy Carter.

America is the only major Country that does not recognize the fact that once you have had the virus you have some immunity. Americas leaders also REFUSE to admit that there are low cost treatments that have been helping immensely to reduce the symptoms and help recover quicker.

Our Dictator Biden wants Vaccinations and more Vaccinations yet that is expensive and not working that well. While the companies that are making it are raking in Billions. Hmmmm.

It is becoming more and more obvious that the vaccine is not about curing and eliminating the disease but about making money for big Pharmaceutical and Kickbacks to Government.
Take Ivermectin for example it is very cheap and they say it is working very well to help people get over it quicker with less problems yet we are not even allowed to talk about it! So much for Freedom of Speech. There are several other treatments that have been working very good.

I can understand wanting everyone to get the Vaccine IF it stops you from getting it and if we knew exactly what long term effects are.

Still people are getting Vaccinated or not and we are not allowed to discuss possible Treatments?

For the Democrats it is not about Public safety it is about Public Control.

Dictator Biden said when he was running that "Trump had blood on his hands for the 400,000 people who died and if I was President NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON WOULD HAVE DIED FROM COVID. Not one!"

Now many more people have died under Biden and he has been told now for 4 MONTHS to get the tests made up and he has not signed the order yet. Plus Biden has had the Vaccine which is supposed to save the World. Both Biden and Kamala said they would not take the Trump vaccine because it was not Safe, Tested or Effective. Yet now they are trying to force it up in us.

They have made it a Political issue, they did that before they even took office and then have the gall to tell us they are the party of common sense and civility.


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Dr Rand Paul said yesterday that those Vaccinated are more likely to get get the new Omicron than those who are NOT vaccinated. The CDC finally admitted that 75% of all of those who died recently had FOUR or MORE Co-Morbidity issues.
Meaning that they had four or more things that could have killed them on their own.

Yesterday Biden signed a MANDATE forcing insurance companies to pay for the home Covid test up to 8 per individual per Month. I have two big problems with this. 1. How can he mandate for a company to spend Billions of dollars? 2. Where do you think that Billions of dollars will come from? Yup, raised insurance costs again just like the B@lls@ck Obama did to us. You think insurance is expensive now? Wait until they are forced to give everyone "FREE" Home Covid tests.

Yet the interbred Derelict Dictator has STILL not signed the agreement with the manufacturers to MAKE the tests! This is the most grossly incompetent "President" ever. Even worse than B@lls@ck Obama and Jimmy Carter.

America is the only major Country that does not recognize the fact that once you have had the virus you have some immunity. Americas leaders also REFUSE to admit that there are low cost treatments that have been helping immensely to reduce the symptoms and help recover quicker.

Our Dictator Biden wants Vaccinations and more Vaccinations yet that is expensive and not working that well. While the companies that are making it are raking in Billions. Hmmmm.

It is becoming more and more obvious that the vaccine is not about curing and eliminating the disease but about making money for big Pharmaceutical and Kickbacks to Government.
Take Ivermectin for example it is very cheap and they say it is working very well to help people get over it quicker with less problems yet we are not even allowed to talk about it! So much for Freedom of Speech. There are several other treatments that have been working very good.

I can understand wanting everyone to get the Vaccine IF it stops you from getting it and if we knew exactly what long term effects are.

Still people are getting Vaccinated or not and we are not allowed to discuss possible Treatments?

For the Democrats it is not about Public safety it is about Public Control.

Dictator Biden said when he was running that "Trump had blood on his hands for the 400,000 people who died and if I was President NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON WOULD HAVE DIED FROM COVID. Not one!"

Now many more people have died under Biden and he has been told now for 4 MONTHS to get the tests made up and he has not signed the order yet. Plus Biden has had the Vaccine which is supposed to save the World. Both Biden and Kamala said they would not take the Trump vaccine because it was not Safe, Tested or Effective. Yet now they are trying to force it up in us.

They have made it a Political issue, they did that before they even took office and then have the gall to tell us they are the party of common sense and civility.


Are you not discussing optional treatments openly and freely right now?

Would you look at a vaccine differently if it was said that it will give you a 90% lower chance of death from the virus? Just a thought. You are correct that it has been made way too political.

Gene testing and age along with any co-morbidity that a person may have would probably be the best things to consider when thinking about getting or not getting the vaccine. I just looked and you can get gene testing done pretty easily.

https://www.livescience.com/covid-gene-death-risk

https://www.washingtonpost.com...es-illness-severity/



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Let's not forget the NEW Omicron vaccine coming.
We better start lining up now just in case.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/c...micron-pfizer-march/

I'm sure that will be mandated also.

So let's see, 2 doses of regular covid shot, then a "booster" (= 3) then a regular flu shot (-4), then an Omicron shot (=5) and they aren't sure if you may need a second dose of the Omicron shot (=6).

Waiting for them to change the definition of fully vaxed to mean all 5 shots (maybe 6).

HMMMM


What I don't get is why we wouldn't want to get Omicron. Fairly mild for most people. As long as we don't end up shutting down our places of work or overwhelming local health facilities, it is a way to easily and quickly get to that magical herd immunity.


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Senate to grill CDC director and Fauci today. The CDC director admitted that people died WITH Covid not because of Covid. If the hospitals said people had Covid they got federal funds. An example was a motorcycle accident in Colorado where the rider died from Covid. Turns out he died from the injuries and later found that he tested positive for Covid. It's all about the $$$$.


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I saw this the other day, and it made me think.

Things that make you go hmmm...

How big is 1% ?

1918-Spanish Flu- 50 Million Dead.
1918-World Population-950 Mil(est.)
1918- 5.26% of world pop died.
Experts say- TRAGIC Event

2018- Seasonal Flu- 650,000 Dead
2018- World Pop. 7.7 Billion(Est)
2018-.009% Worlds Population died.
Experts Say- Typical Year(?).

2020- COVID 19-488,729 dead and counting.
2020- World Population-7.7 Billion(est)
2020-.006% Worlds pop has died.-
Experts-The World Is Coming To An End, Shut Down All Business', Close all Churches, Ruin The Worlds Economy !!

1% of the Worlds Pop. right now , would be 77 MILLION DEAD.
Now, If 5.26% is TRAGIC, and .009% is no big deal, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING ???


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Senate to grill CDC director and Fauci today. The CDC director admitted that people died WITH Covid not because of Covid. If the hospitals said people had Covid they got federal funds. An example was a motorcycle accident in Colorado where the rider died from Covid. Turns out he died from the injuries and later found that he tested positive for Covid. It's all about the $$$$.


This is another example of how they have made it Political. When Trump was in office they tried to blame it on him as if he had blood on his hands and China had nothing to do with it. We knew then that many had died from Heart attacks, Cancer motorcycle wrecks etc yet almost all deaths under Trump was due to Covid. There were people who had MULTIPLE gun shots wounds and they listed cause of Death as Covid.

Now the Democrats are wanting to change the way they count the deaths to make it look better since they are in control now.

Another problem is the Hospitals were getting a lot of extra money if they died from Covid so mysteriously almost all deaths were from Covid. There is something wrong with this picture when any business other than a Funeral home can profit from Death. I am a little uncomfortable knowing that the Hospital would make a lot more money off of me if they killed me.

Just like the way they are counting the unemployment numbers now. 9 out of 10 people who were on unemployment have quit looking for a job and left the work force. So they get 199,000 people back to work (They expected 400,000+) thousand people but tens of Millions of people have decided not to put up with it for one reason or another. So they talk about low unemployment numbers but there are still millions of people out of work and job positions they can not fill.

Dictator Biden talks about payroll increases many have got this year but he does not talk about gas prices DOUBLE and inflation of everything we buy so we have WAY less buying power than we had before Dictator Biden or D!ckt@ster Kamala.


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The percent of Americans vaccinated is ZERO, because the shots they're pimping don't keep you from getting COVID and don't keep you from spreading COVID. They therefore, by definition, are NOT vaccines.

Sorry, that's just the facts.

I have two relatives who are what I would call "COVID Crusaders" - got their vaccinations early, got the boosters, ridicule those who choose not to vaccinate, etc. Both of them (and their wives) currently experiencing mild-to-moderate symptoms (pretty much like a common cold) and all four tested positive for COVID.

The "vaccines" are a joke.


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Family here from Denver. Nephew; Its not real , nobody is sick. He has brainwashed his 16 year old son telling him it is not real. They wanted to come to our place and visit. I told them- nope. Until you gain some common sense- stay in Denver!


You are aware that vaccinated people get COVID and spread COVID no different from the unvaccinated, right?


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Curly1 you are dead on with a Zero. Dems are the most corrupt people......period.


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"A fantastic piece today in the Wall Street Journal correctly notes that one study found that after 30 days, the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines no longer had any statistically significant positive effect against omicron infection, and after 90 days, their effect went negative -- i.e. vaccinated people were more susceptible to omicron infection"


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Family here from Denver. Nephew; Its not real , nobody is sick. He has brainwashed his 16 year old son telling him it is not real. They wanted to come to our place and visit. I told them- nope. Until you gain some common sense- stay in Denver!


You are aware that vaccinated people get COVID and spread COVID no different from the unvaccinated, right?


Sure am! Also aware you have a far better chance of not being hospitalized if/when you get it.
Show the data please.
Hoping we are developing a vaccine and not a yearly shot.


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The percent of Americans vaccinated is ZERO, because the shots they're pimping don't keep you from getting COVID and don't keep you from spreading COVID. They therefore, by definition, are NOT vaccines.

Sorry, that's just the facts.

I have two relatives who are what I would call "COVID Crusaders" - got their vaccinations early, got the boosters, ridicule those who choose not to vaccinate, etc. Both of them (and their wives) currently experiencing mild-to-moderate symptoms (pretty much like a common cold) and all four tested positive for COVID.

The "vaccines" are a joke.



Nope not a joke…
You are entitled to your opinion. So am I.
Sly, I don’t want to see anyone get it period! Vaccine or not . It’s not good and affects us all differently.


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