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More proof the con is about control, and not about wellness.
 
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I can't believe Dr. Rachel Maddow on MSNBC lied to me. She said that if we get the vaccine we will not have to worry about getting Covid EVER. I'm so disappointed


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This is a real mind bender so try not to lose me (get confused).

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You are far less likely to have severe or hospitalization from covid due to the shots.
Touché


My coworker just returned to work after being in the hospital from Covid.
He was vaccinated and still ended up in the hospital. He said there were 37 people there,and 35 were vaccinated .
He also had some of the risk factors that appear to be far more important than whether someone is vaccinated or not.


Willing to bet he is lying about that.


He is a pretty decent guy.I have NO reason to doubt him.
I know other people in the medical field.Both vaccinated and unvaccinated are in the hospital.
This may go against what you believe because I think you said your wife is a nurse or something.
 
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You are far less likely to have severe or hospitalization from covid due to the shots.
Touché


My coworker just returned to work after being in the hospital from Covid.
He was vaccinated and still ended up in the hospital. He said there were 37 people there,and 35 were vaccinated .
He also had some of the risk factors that appear to be far more important than whether someone is vaccinated or not.


Willing to bet he is lying about that.


Why?


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"A fantastic piece today in the Wall Street Journal correctly notes that one study found that after 30 days, the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines no longer had any statistically significant positive effect against omicron infection, and after 90 days, their effect went negative -- i.e. vaccinated people were more susceptible to omicron infection"


And yet Dictator Biden and D!ckT@ster Kamala are still trying to force us to get the Vaccine.


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Bombshell report on banned.video.

I hope he's wrong on this.

Ya'll don't wanna know so I won't post the link.

It's bad news for all us, if true.

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"A fantastic piece today in the Wall Street Journal correctly notes that one study found that after 30 days, the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines no longer had any statistically significant positive effect against omicron infection, and after 90 days, their effect went negative -- i.e. vaccinated people were more susceptible to omicron infection"


And yet Dictator Biden and D!ckT@ster Kamala are still trying to force us to get the Vaccine.


I have wondered what messing with our immune system enough may eventually do.


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You are far less likely to have severe or hospitalization from covid due to the shots.
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I think my family and friends have proven this incorrect.
 
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He is a pretty decent guy.I have NO reason to doubt him.
I know other people in the medical field.Both vaccinated and unvaccinated are in the hospital.
This may go against what you believe because I think you said your wife is a nurse or something.


I shouldn't have made it sound so harsh. I don't doubt what you say about him being a good guy. My point below.


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Why?


HIPPA laws. How would you find out that information on 37 people while you are in the hospital? Would he have gone around to all the ICU/floor rooms and taken a poll?

At the very least he exaggerated greatly what he knew. JMO though.



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Originally posted by 442OLDS:
He is a pretty decent guy.I have NO reason to doubt him.
I know other people in the medical field.Both vaccinated and unvaccinated are in the hospital.
This may go against what you believe because I think you said your wife is a nurse or something.


I shouldn't have made it sound so harsh. I don't doubt what you say about him being a good guy. My point below.


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Why?


HIPPA laws. How would you find out that information on 37 people while you are in the hospital? Would he have gone around to all the ICU/floor rooms and taken a poll?

At the very least he exaggerated greatly what he knew. JMO though.


Well,I'm at work right now.So I just asked him what you said.
He said he got the information from hearing a discussion of a nurse and doctor right outside of his room.
He would have no reason to lie or make this up.
What part don't you believe?
You find it impossible to believe that vaccinated people end up in the hospital? Or that in this particular hospital, the vaccinated outnumbered the unvaccinated?
 
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Originally posted by 442OLDS:
He is a pretty decent guy.I have NO reason to doubt him.
I know other people in the medical field.Both vaccinated and unvaccinated are in the hospital.
This may go against what you believe because I think you said your wife is a nurse or something.


I shouldn't have made it sound so harsh. I don't doubt what you say about him being a good guy. My point below.


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Why?


HIPPA laws. How would you find out that information on 37 people while you are in the hospital? Would he have gone around to all the ICU/floor rooms and taken a poll?

At the very least he exaggerated greatly what he knew. JMO though.


Here's what I'm going to say about it. I trust little of what I read online anymore. I don't trust what somebody posts about a friend who overheard someone talking in the hall. I don't trust the CDC. I don't trust Fauci in the least. I don't trust main stream media. It seems the only time most trust any of these folks is when they are spouting what they want to hear.
If you know a nurse that works in a hospital...ask them. Dr's may also be forthright about it. I won't say that anyone is lying. I just think there is a LOT of misinformation going around. There are guys posting stats that I truly believe are made up and then circulated because it supports what they believe.


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He is a pretty decent guy.I have NO reason to doubt him.
I know other people in the medical field.Both vaccinated and unvaccinated are in the hospital.
This may go against what you believe because I think you said your wife is a nurse or something.


I shouldn't have made it sound so harsh. I don't doubt what you say about him being a good guy. My point below.


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Originally posted by Bucky:

Why?


HIPPA laws. How would you find out that information on 37 people while you are in the hospital? Would he have gone around to all the ICU/floor rooms and taken a poll?

At the very least he exaggerated greatly what he knew. JMO though.


Well,I'm at work right now.So I just asked him what you said.
He said he got the information from hearing a discussion of a nurse and doctor right outside of his room.
He would have no reason to lie or make this up.
What part don't you believe?
You find it impossible to believe that vaccinated people end up in the hospital? Or that in this particular hospital, the vaccinated outnumbered the unvaccinated?


I didn't say anything about the numbers being right or wrong. If he truly did overhear it then that nurse and doctor need written up and more classes on HIPPA etiquette.

I have never said that vaccinated people can't get sick either.



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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
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Originally posted by 442OLDS:
He is a pretty decent guy.I have NO reason to doubt him.
I know other people in the medical field.Both vaccinated and unvaccinated are in the hospital.
This may go against what you believe because I think you said your wife is a nurse or something.


I shouldn't have made it sound so harsh. I don't doubt what you say about him being a good guy. My point below.


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Originally posted by Bucky:

Why?


HIPPA laws. How would you find out that information on 37 people while you are in the hospital? Would he have gone around to all the ICU/floor rooms and taken a poll?

At the very least he exaggerated greatly what he knew. JMO though.


Here's what I'm going to say about it. I trust little of what I read online anymore. I don't trust what somebody posts about a friend who overheard someone talking in the hall. I don't trust the CDC. I don't trust Fauci in the least. I don't trust main stream media. It seems the only time most trust any of these folks is when they are spouting what they want to hear.
If you know a nurse that works in a hospital...ask them. Dr's may also be forthright about it. I won't say that anyone is lying. I just think there is a LOT of misinformation going around. There are guys posting stats that I truly believe are made up and then circulated because it supports what they believe.


That is exactly why earlier in this thread when you asked I said my determination on what I believe comes from my wife, 2 sons and 1 daughter that are directly involved in healthcare.

I will add that what they have seen and told me is 100° opposite of what this guy says he overheard.



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I will add that what they have seen and told me is 100° opposite of what this guy says he overheard.


I get that and don't disagree. But calling him a liar is a little over the top. We don't know what he did or didn't hear. And hippa laws apply to specific patients. Not to hospital stats. It's a long stretch to call what he said he heard a hippa violation.


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Myself and my family all are fully vaccinated with boosters. None of us or anyone I know had any issues with it. I'm around 80+ year old family members most everyday, so even if it only helps a little, I'll do it.
 
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At this point, 2 years into this pandemic and no end in sight and the new normal has yet to be defined, we are currently at 63% of the country is vaccinated and we are on our way to 90% or more of this country’s population will be vaccinated due to federal, state or city mandates. Those that can skirt these mandates are and will be very few. Wouldn’t surprise me to see the government mandate all those getting federal funds, ie social security, extended unemployment benefits and any other federal program monies, mandated to be vaccinated to continue to receive this $.
 
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I will add that what they have seen and told me is 100° opposite of what this guy says he overheard.


I get that and don't disagree. But calling him a liar is a little over the top. We don't know what he did or didn't hear. And hippa laws apply to specific patients. Not to hospital stats. It's a long stretch to call what he said he heard a hippa violation.


I admitted that I shouldn't have said that about him.

I'm not sure if you were written up and called to answer for discussing it right outside his room that your argument would stand. I will ask about it.



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Are you not discussing optional treatments openly and freely right now?

LOL! Try it on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc...

Still doesn't invalidate my point here.


While the original statement of "we are not allowed to discuss possible Treatments" when taken literally is not 100% true as there are many ways and places where people can speak freely, it's rather disingenuous to pretend to be completely unaware of the many people who have been censored, suspended, and/or banned from various platforms, and to understand that's what he was referring to.

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Willing to bet he is lying about that.

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I won't say that anyone is lying.


While you did apologize, you did do exactly that.


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If he truly did overhear it then that nurse and doctor need written up and more classes on HIPPA etiquette.

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what I believe comes from my wife, 2 sons and 1 daughter that are directly involved in healthcare.


Should your family be written up and take more classes on HIPPA etiquette, for divulging the same level of very general statistical information?


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Should your family be written up and take more classes on HIPPA etiquette, for divulging the same level of very general statistical information?


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