Obama Jobs Plan: President Said To Be Looking At $300 Billion Package

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They were saying on the news last night it may be a 1 TRILLION dollar spending package! Rep Maxine Waters said even that may not be enough? Hello! Earth to idiots!

When you are broke the first thing you do is to stop spending money. Spending Trillions on creating more Governement jobs just means the working people of America have a larger deficit and tax burdon. If this new Obama plan passes it will mean he has doubled the deficit in just 4 years which took all of the other Presidents 225+ years to accumulate. How can that be a good thing when the Gross National Product is less than the money we owe? How can a country survive like that? Am I missing something?

Spending more money is NOT the solution and it does not take to smart a feller to figure that one out.

Spending can be a short term solution and a jump start to the economy. The problem is: We have been down this road already, and there was no plan in place to get the long term job situation under control. And still there is no talk of a strategy to retain and increase manufacturing employment, which has been the most devistating loss of employment to this country. Without a long term plan, spending this short term money is like pee'ing in the wind. Foolish. Get your plan in place and move forward. I'm sure that is tough with a congress who can't agree on anything though. I'm not just laying blame on our president. No one in congress has stepped up with a viable plan either. Lame.

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Spending more money is NOT the solution and it does not take to smart a feller to figure that one out.

Bruce Dodson
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So you are saying that investing in infrastructure projects is not the answer?

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So you are saying that investing in infrastructure projects is not the answer

Cant you read??????????

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Originally posted by Bob H:

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Spending more money is NOT the solution and it does not take to smart a feller to figure that one out.

Bruce Dodson
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So you are saying that investing in infrastructure projects is not the answer?

I would have to say it is certainly not a long term answer. It may be a good jump start though. But jump start to what? What is planned for the thereafter?

The country is over 14 trillion dollars in debt and growing everyday. Sooner or later us or our children will have to pay the piper.
The problem is we have lost millions and millions of job to China and with every job lost it makes our tax base smaller and our debt grow more.
If everyone was working there would be little or no debt.
The other part to that problem is our Congress is spending too much money! Spending more will make the problem worse! Please do not tell me you can not understand such a simple concept.

If we allowed Obama to spend more money and double our deficit on infrastructure do you think all of our problems would be solved? No! Sooner or later we still have to pay the bill and it is the taxes on the working man that are footing the bill. All that would do is create a ruling class and a working class to pay for ruling class. Like Slavery or Socialism where they take most of your pay to support the ruling class. Stop spending!

The news said Obama plans on spending 300 billion to one TRILLION on his jobs plan. I certainly hope people are not stupid enough to buy into that program. What is really funny is he said that his plan will not cost the American people one red cent? I certainly am not stupid enough to believe that one. But we will wait until after his jobs speech to see what his plan is before I make further comment on it.

I do want jobs but not Government jobs that increases the debt load on the working man.

Even with out this new job plan from Osama our National deficit will be almost double in 2012 what is was when Obama took office. I for one think that is a problem a big problem.

Spending more money is NOT the answer! Think about if you personally had a credit card debt that was larger than you gross annual salary and net worth you would not think that is a problem? You think the solution would be to put more on that credit card? Sorry if I can not understand how spending more will help your situation.

Surely you were just joking and I missed the punch line. I know you could not be serious.

You do not think it is a problem that the credit card company is China?

Not only is the shear magnitude of how much we owe a problem who we owe it to is another huge issue and spending more money is not the solution. If you can not understand those simple facts then America is in big trouble.

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by Bob H:

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Spending more money is NOT the solution and it does not take to smart a feller to figure that one out.

Bruce Dodson
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airetex.com

So you are saying that investing in infrastructure projects is not the answer?

I would have to say it is certainly not a long term answer. It may be a good jump start though. But jump start to what? What is planned for the thereafter?

Both of the "Stimulus Bills", and "Cash for Clunkers" programs did not help and both were supposed to put America back to work. Are we going to try this failed project again? Lets see the first two Stimulus Bills and the first two Cash for Clunkers was a huge failure so lets try it again with much more money?
Think about it the problem is jobs and you can not figure out the jobs have gone to China?

Obama's Goal: Getting Jobs, Putting GOP on Spot

With millions of Americans out of work and out of patience, President Barack Obama is going before a skeptical Congress to pitch an economic plan aimed at creating jobs urgently and forcing Republicans to own the problem with him.

The underlying political strategy: If Obama can't get his ideas passed heading into his re-election year, he at least hopes to show why he shouldn't take the fall.

Obama is expected to speak for up to 45 minutes, beginning at 7 p.m. EDT







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Originally posted by Bob H:

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Spending more money is NOT the solution and it does not take to smart a feller to figure that one out.

Bruce Dodson
AireTex Compressors
airetex.com

So you are saying that investing in infrastructure projects is not the answer?

What I am saying is spending more money you don't have is NOT the answer! The country is drowning in debt, The American worker is taxed too much, the jobs are going to China and you think the answer is to spend more money?
I respectfully disagree.

I think Obama blaming Bush for everything is getting old. People are getting tired of excuses and blame game and want answers and action.
Still waiting on Obama to come up with a budget plan and the all Democrat congress could not agree on a budget even when they had complete control of both houses and the white house?
Yet Obama blames Bush?

When they had complete control they rammed ObamaCare up us.
Bottom line is some people are starting to see that Obama is not the Great Savior they thought he was. More are starting see he is the problem not the solution.

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Still waiting on Obama to come up with a budget plan and the all Democrat congress could not agree on a budget even when they had complete control of both houses and the white house?

To be fair, that isn't a prize reserved just for Democrat controled congresses. Obama doesn't have the answers, but no one else is stepping up with viable answers either. Politicians tend to be cowards, regardless of what party they belong to.
Continuous spending is certainly not the answer. The stimulus deal may have helped, but the job problem was not addressed in a long term way, so it was just money spent with no long term effects. I am afraid that is what we are heading for a second session of.

Sherry Hackett, wife of the late Buddy Hackett, is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat. I would think that many other Democrats share her position...


This was written by Sherry Hackett, Buddy Hackett's widow

"WE NOTICED"

President Obama:

Today I read of your administrations' plan to re-define September 11 as a National Service Day. Sir, it's time we had a talk.

During your campaign, Americans watched as you made mockery of our tradition of standing and crossing your heart when the Pledge of Allegiance was spoken. You, out of four people on the stage, were the only one not honoring our tradition.
YES, "We noticed."

During one of your many speeches, Americans heard you say that you intended to visit all 57 states. We all know that Islam, not America has 57 states.
YES, "We noticed."

When President Bush leaned over at Ground Zero and gently placed a flower on the memorial, while you nonchalantly tossed your flower onto the pile without leaning over.
YES, "We noticed."

Every time you apologized to other countries for America's position on an issue we have wondered why you don't share our pride in this great country.. When you have heard foreign leaders berate our country and our beliefs, you have not defended us. In fact, you insulted the British Crown beyond belief.
YES, "We noticed."

When your pastor of 20 years, "God-damned America" and said that 9/11 was "America's chickens coming home to roost" and you denied having heard recriminations of that nature, we wondered how that could be. You later disassociated yourself from that church and Pastor Wright because it was politically expedient to do so.
YES, "We noticed."

When you announced that you would transform America, we wondered why. With all her faults, America is the greatest country on earth. Sir, KEEP THIS IN MIND, "if not for America and the people who built her, you wouldn't be sitting in the White House now." Prior to your election to the highest office in this Country, you were a senator from Illinois and from what we can glean from the records available, not a very remarkable one.
YES, "We noticed."

All through your campaign and even now, you have surrounded yourself with individuals who are basically unqualified for the positions for which you appointed them. Worse than that, the majority
of them are people who, like you, bear no special allegiance, respect, or affection for this country and her traditions.
YES, "We noticed."

You are 18 months into your term and every morning millions of Americans wake up to a new horror heaped on us by you. You seek to saddle working Americans with a health care/insurance reform package that, along with cap and trade, will bankrupt this nation.
YES, "We noticed."

We seek, by protesting, to let our representatives know that we are not in favor of these crippling expenditures and we are labeled "un-American","racist", "mob". We wonder how we are supposed to let you know how frustrated we are. You have attempted to make our protests seem isolated and insignificant. Until your appointment, Americans had the right to speak out.
YES, "We noticed."

On September 11, 2001 there were no Republicans or Democrats, only Americans. And we all grieved together and helped each other in whatever way we could. The attack on 9/11 was carried out because we are Americans.
And YES, "We noticed."

There were many of us who prayed that as a black president you could help unite this nation. In six months you have done more to destroy this nation than the attack on 9/11. You have failed us.
YES, "We noticed."

September 11 is a day of remembrance for all Americans. You propose to make 9/11 a "National Service Day". While we know that you don't share our reverence for 9/11, we pray that history will report your proposal as what it is, a disgrace.
YES, "We noticed."

You have made a mockery of our Constitution and the office that you hold. You have embarrassed and slighted us in foreign visits and policy.
YES, "We noticed."

We have noticed all these things. We will deal with you. When Americans come together again, it will be to remove you from office.
Take notice.

Obama has proven he does not have any of the answers.

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During your campaign, Americans watched as you made mockery of our tradition of standing and crossing your heart when the Pledge of Allegiance was spoken. You, out of four people on the stage, were the only one not honoring our tradition.
YES, "We noticed."

Sorry floyd but that is an outright lie.

I won't go any further.

No problem, Bob.

Well, he had his "Jobs Stimulus Bill" speech. Short story is he said this is a 450 BILLION dollar bill and it will cost us nothing. Then he said we were going to build more highways, trains, put teachers and carpenters back to work. Then he said he plans to pay for it by adding to the tail end of our deficit, and have Congress make cuts (Like that will happen) and taxing the rich and large corporations. As they once the camel gets his head in the tent his whole tail is in. Once we get more taxes added they rarely ever go away.
So we are back to the same thing that got us in this mess = Spending more money than they bring in. It is obvious that Obama wants to increase the size of the Government so they can tax us more to pay for it creating a ruling class and working class.
The whole speech was a thinly disguised re-election campaign speech. More promises like when he was originally running and no results.
I honestly do not know how anyone can support spending 450 BILLION more dollars when we already can not afford the bills we have now? I do not even make that much money and I am getting ate up by taxes.
Taxing the rich people into poverty will not fix the Government problem that they spend too much money. Writing more checks that we can not pay for is not working to either.
Do you think taxing the rich will pay for our Government? Our deficit is MORE than the entire Gross National Product, if everyone of us worked for FREE for the year it would not pay the deficit. All he is doing is creating class warfare and not solving the problem.
The problem is Big Brother spending money like a drunken sailor on leave.

I'm not big on continued spending, but we also can't sit on our hands and expect the economy to magically get better either. I have said it before, but this plan isn't a bad kick starter. The problem is that we don't have the longer range plan in place. The supporters of this plan speak as if this is a lawn mower that just needs a shot of gas in the carb, and then it will take off on it's own. I just don't see that second part happening. We need to address the loss of manufacturing jobs and have a plan for after the jump start. Otherwise it is just more money down the drain.
This tax the rich into poverty stuff is kind of a reach. The only suggestion being made is to repeal the Bush tax cuts for the rich. They will be no worse off than they were at that time. Plus, they would only be paying the same percentage of their earnings as the rest of us working stiffs. I'm not sure I see what is so terrible about that. They will pay more than the rest of us, and they will still keep more than the rest of us. I don't see where the Bush tax breaks did anything to help the economy. Nothing. It was a good try with good theory and it didn't work out the way it was hoped. End it.
If the republicans have their own ideas of what do do to fix the economy and get people back to work and off of the dole, they need to bring those plans to the front of the line. Sitting back and taking shots at the ideas of others is easy. Coming up with your own ideas is not.
I'm starting to get the impression that the Republicans are the do nothing party. It isn't much worse than the do the wrong thing party, but at least they are trying.