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Originally posted by RACER99O:
This is the feature racers should be concerned with

◙ Compulink StageLok: The StageLok System is run in every class during every event. The long-standing “shallow-staged” red
light problem is a thing of the past with this system. Before this system was designed, cars or bikes that were very lightly staged could
easily vibrate or rock out of the staging beam. When that happened, the infrared beam reconnects causing what may “appear” as a
false red light foul. In many cases, the simple vibration would cause the foul for those who shallow staged, even without the rocking
of the car or bike when the rpm’s were raised. In all cases of shallow-staged red light fouls, it appeared that the car never moved. This
is because the infrared staging beam measures 1/100 of an inch. So for those who shallow-staged, it didn’t take much for that beam
to reconnect for a vehicle that isn’t line-locked which rolls backwards, trans-brake slippage or simple unloading of the front tires caused
by torque when the motor is “matted” against a trans-brake (generally the #1 cause of shallow-staged red lights).
The StageLok system was designed to prevent these “false” (yet legally binding) red lights fouls. Here’s an inside look at how the system actually
works. Prior to either car entering the Pre-Stage beam, the starter manually triggers a switch that tells the computer to arm the AutoStart system.
The Timing System takes control of the run from that point on, eliminating the possibility of human error. Once both cars have satisfied the “Staged
Minimum” time preset (usually .5 seconds, but varies from class to class), the StageLok sequence initiates before the tree is fired allowing the racer
1” of rearward travel before the stage beam will go out. This 1” allowance is active through the entire AutoStart System, until the algorithm has
reached the green light - at which point a rearward movement will not result in a red light foul.

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Originally posted by Sportsman Drag Racing Podcast:
Luke and Jed had a lengthy discussion about this very topic on this weeks podcast.

Listen here for their take: Ezell Saga and Spring Fling Million Winner Randell Reid

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Originally posted by Will Harrison:

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Originally posted by Sportsman Drag Racing Podcast:
Luke and Jed had a lengthy discussion about this very topic on this weeks podcast.

Listen here for their take: Ezell Saga and Spring Fling Million Winner Randell Reid

Luke's fix would work, as would a couple ideas we've come up with. #1 having the autostart timer reset each time it goes back to just 2 pre stage lights being lit. He could blink the light all day long if he wants but autostart isn't going to happen.
Or #2, once you've turned your stage light on long enough the set the timer, you've accepted that your staged. If your stage light goes out at any time after autostart has been set and before the green light comes on, you are red. There's no legitimate reason for the stage light to go out after its been lit for .6 of a second.

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Originally posted by TORQIN:
To win, you must stage. Johnny did nothing against the rules and won the round because he staged first and last as the opponent never staged his car.

No drama, no chicken chit, no arguments IMO.

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Originally posted by Will Harrison:

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Originally posted by TORQIN:
To win, you must stage. Johnny did nothing against the rules and won the round because he staged first and last as the opponent never staged his car.

No drama, no chicken chit, no arguments IMO.

I agree, what he did was definitely not against the rules, it's not like he switched cars mid race or anything.

But it's a flaw in the autostart system in my opinion. If it was a real live starter in controll of the situation that's not how it would have played out. And the idea of autostart was to create an artificial starter that didn't make mistakes. This is a flaw In that system. Totally legal none the less. Just like the redlight system has been flawed for decades giving the slow car a redlight even if the redlight is less, TruStart fixed that flaw.

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Originally posted by Mike Beck:
Nice video. Racer in the right lane screwed-up. He either could have staged first, or once he saw the stage light flicker in the other lane he should have staged. By sitting there picking his nose he got what he deserved.......

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
again, johnny schooled him and he was a willing participant. He now knows how auto start works and likely he will never get timed out again but it's also likely johnny will never be able to use that staging tack again at a big $ race.

That said, I've posted video here before of a competitor and friend of my son's who backs into the beams and always puts the stage light on and then turns it out. My son too knows how auto start works.

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Originally posted by TD6297:
but back to the original question. I have seen both the first and second light of the stage light, was the one that started the autostart. Would it have been the first, or second?