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If you will only stage last, AND you do not know how auto start works.... then I don't feel bad for you in the slightest

If 3 bulbs are lit for 1 second then auto start begins regardless of if it goes back to 2 bulbs. If johnny had not got staged again in time then both drivers would have went red and been out.

If you are one dimensional and don't know the rules...... oh well
 
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Again, It’s gamesmanship and if you don’t know how autostart works after about 15 years in use, my advice is stay home.
 
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If you will only stage last, AND you do not know how auto start works.... then I don't feel bad for you in the slightest

If 3 bulbs are lit for 1 second then auto start begins regardless of if it goes back to 2 bulbs. If johnny had not got staged again in time then both drivers would have went red and been out.

If you are one dimensional and don't know the rules...... oh well


^^^ Exactly ^^^^ As far as I'm, concerned, the guy who thinks he's entitled to only stage last is the chicken **** and the guy who uses a better understanding of the system to exploit that and stick it up his azz is a hero!


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BD104X...KNOWS!
 
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This tactic is absolutely trickery and manipulation of the timing system. If Johnny were really concerned with forcing the other racer to get in and stage, all he had to do is light both bulbs and stay in. Instead, he tricks his opponent into thinking he's not staged after starting the timer. Unless he knows his opponent, there's absolutely no way to know what is going through the other driver's mind. He may be thinking Johnny is having trouble and giving him an opportunity to get in, who knows. This tactic actually INCREASES the time it takes both racers to stage as he's up there flickering bulbs, etc. instead of getting in himself. That speed up the staging process is a BS statement.

Absolutely, it's not illegal and he's operating within the rules, but winning at any cost doesn't make it right. There are two types of winners. Those with class and those without.

It amazes me that a racer as good as Johnny is resorts to such poor "gamesmanship" in order to win a round. IMO that's not winning on his own merits.


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No surprise by the comments of those replying that don't have a clue.
 
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Play stupid games and win stupid prizes. Apparently the guy who got the red light didnt know who Johnny "bracket racer" Ezell was. All he had to do was stage his car and would have had a chance
 
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The driver on the right thought that Ezell was going in since his bulb was flickering. He was waiting for it to stay on before he went in.

He was rolling when the lights came down. Johnny only left him a couple seconds to stage.


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I personally thought it was awesome! Like many have said, autostart has been around a long time now and we should all know how it works. You should especially know how it works if you are a racer that is dead set on staging last!
 
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Of particular interest is that he did this in round 3 with a chance to get a free time run into round 4 where the big money started piling up.
 
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He was obviously there to win and didn’t care what the Internet forum keyboard racers would say. BlahBlah
 
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Of particular interest is that he did this in round 3 with a chance to get a free time run into round 4 where the big money started piling up.


The guy who got timed out?



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I could be wrong but I watched a lot of rounds this weekend and didn't see that game played on any of his other runs... I would guess that either they have some prior history or that guy is one of the aforementioned stubborn ones who believes its his right to always go in last which prompted a lesson on how no single person gets to call the shots!


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It's funny to me that going in last matters so much to some people.



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the last one in, starts the tree unless you don't know how autostart works as was the case with this guy that got timed out.
 
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Pretty sure outcome would have been the same whether he got in or not...just saying...
 
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I could be wrong but I watched a lot of rounds this weekend and didn't see that game played on any of his other runs... I would guess that either they have some prior history or that guy is one of the aforementioned stubborn ones who believes its his right to always go in last which prompted a lesson on how no single person gets to call the shots!
nope and nope, I know him well and have never seen him have to stage last. I dont what race everyone else is watching but that wasn't very long of a "staging battle" to me... just a few seconds and the left lane pre staged first which usually means they want to stage first. If the right lane had double bulbed people would be crying about that too. Lol


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Pretty sure outcome would have been the same whether he got in or not...just saying...
right lane was 8 total the run before.. I dont think I'd be so confident on that one...


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If both cars are prestaged and it takes one of them longer than 10 seconds to light the second bulb, there's a problem.


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Johnny didn't back out. All it takes is a wiggle of the front tires to turn the stage lights off. Look close and you will see the tires turn back and forth. Not his first rodeo. He is known for doing this if autostart is in use.


Yep I seen that happen a couple times with the wheels getting turned back and forth this weekend


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