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Originally posted by Will Harrison:

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Originally posted by BD104X:
I could be wrong but I watched a lot of rounds this weekend and didn't see that game played on any of his other runs... I would guess that either they have some prior history or that guy is one of the aforementioned stubborn ones who believes its his right to always go in last which prompted a lesson on how no single person gets to call the shots!

nope and nope, I know him well and have never seen him have to stage last. I dont what race everyone else is watching but that wasn't very long of a "staging battle" to me... just a few seconds and the left lane pre staged first which usually means they want to stage first. If the right lane had double bulbed people would be crying about that too. Lol

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Originally posted by BD104X:
I could be wrong but I watched a lot of rounds this weekend and didn't see that game played on any of his other runs... I would guess that either they have some prior history or that guy is one of the aforementioned stubborn ones who believes its his right to always go in last which prompted a lesson on how no single person gets to call the shots!

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
the last one in, starts the tree unless you don't know how autostart works as was the case with this guy that got timed out.

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:
If you will only stage last, AND you do not know how auto start works.... then I don't feel bad for you in the slightest

If 3 bulbs are lit for 1 second then auto start begins regardless of if it goes back to 2 bulbs. If johnny had not got staged again in time then both drivers would have went red and been out.

If you are one dimensional and don't know the rules...... oh well

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Compulink CrossTalk: The CrossTalk Program solves the problem of the open vs. shielded top bulb controversy. CrossTalk
allows the tree to be fully shielded (all ambers) while giving several benefits. All racers have their own “clean” tree, with all ambers
including the top amber facing directly towards them. CrossTalk functions in eliminations by firing the top amber in both lanes at the
same time. This allows both cars a direct “hit” on the tree. The tree of the slower lane will continue counting down to the second and
third amber as normal. The faster cars top amber will remain lit until the time comes for the second and third amber in that lane to
cycle down. Note that CrossTalk function would only be run in “Box” classes in eliminations only. Footbrake classes would have a
normal functioning tree.
 A driver (if he is the quicker of the pair) may cancel the CrossTalk function by including the letter “N” after the last digit of
their dial-in. For example, a dial-in of 7.85N would cancel CrossTalk for that pair of cars if the 7.85 was the fastest dial-in. If
you have the letter “N” after your dial to indicate you do not want Crosstalk activated in your lane, make sure you see the
dash in front of your dial-in on the scoreboards before you stage. If there is no dash in front of your dial-in on the scoreboards,
then the clock operator did not see the “N” after your dial or you have it placed elsewhere on your window. In this case, DO
NOT STAGE. Simply get the starter’s attention and point to the “N” on your window; he will call the tower by radio and have
it corrected.
◙ Compulink AutoStart: The AutoStart system is used at MDIR in ALL CLASSES AT ALL EVENTS, from Sportsman to Pro. This
system starts the tree automatically when the Compulink senses two fully staged vehicles so the starter can concentrate more on the
track and conditions of the race. Here's how it works: when the system sees both cars pre-staged and ONE of the cars staged, it
starts a timer (actual length of timer is class specific, please inquire with the tower or go to the class rules and information section on
the MDIR website for the timer length in your class). If the second car does not enter the staging beams within the timer's parameters,
a red light is activated for that car. This red light will NOT be negotiated under any circumstance. Remember, the system needs to see
three lights before it starts the timer - two pre-stages and a stage. Don't try to burn down your opponent.
◙ Compulink StageLok: The StageLok System is run in every class during every event. The long-standing “shallow-staged” red
light problem is a thing of the past with this system. Before this system was designed, cars or bikes that were very lightly staged could
easily vibrate or rock out of the staging beam. When that happened, the infrared beam reconnects causing what may “appear” as a
false red light foul. In many cases, the simple vibration would cause the foul for those who shallow staged, even without the rocking
of the car or bike when the rpm’s were raised. In all cases of shallow-staged red light fouls, it appeared that the car never moved. This
is because the infrared staging beam measures 1/100 of an inch. So for those who shallow-staged, it didn’t take much for that beam
to reconnect for a vehicle that isn’t line-locked which rolls backwards, trans-brake slippage or simple unloading of the front tires caused
by torque when the motor is “matted” against a trans-brake (generally the #1 cause of shallow-staged red lights).
The StageLok system was designed to prevent these “false” (yet legally binding) red lights fouls. Here’s an inside look at how the system actually
works. Prior to either car entering the Pre-Stage beam, the starter manually triggers a switch that tells the computer to arm the AutoStart system.
The Timing System takes control of the run from that point on, eliminating the possibility of human error. Once both cars have satisfied the “Staged
Minimum” time preset (usually .5 seconds, but varies from class to class), the StageLok sequence initiates before the tree is fired allowing the racer
1” of rearward travel before the stage beam will go out. This 1” allowance is active through the entire AutoStart System, until the algorithm has
reached the green light - at which point a rearward movement will not result in a red light foul.

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
the last one in, starts the tree unless you don't know how autostart works as was the case with this guy that got timed out.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
the last one in, starts the tree unless you don't know how autostart works as was the case with this guy that got timed out.

Semantics. If only three lights at lit and someone gets timed out the first one in becomes the last one in. If the second guy goes on in when three lights have lit, then he is the last one in. What happened in this case made Johnny the last one in.

My point is that I couldn't care less if I'm first in or last in. The outcome will be the same because it doesn't affect me.

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:
If you will only stage last, AND you do not know how auto start works.... then I don't feel bad for you in the slightest. As far as other folks saying it is chicken ****, again it comes back to the fact that if you don't understand the timing system well enough to keep from falling into this trap then you probably shouldn't be engaging in staging battles.