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I got my first shot at the beginning of the month. My reaction was worse than my actual experience with covid back in February, going well beyond the expected fever, chills, dizziness, and fatigue. I spoke to another racer this weekend who survived two months in ICU last fall who just got his first shot about the same time as me... and experienced the same symptoms of a sharp stabbing chest pain and lingering broader light chest pain. I'm not happy about it at all. I'm supposed to get my second dose tomorrow, but I will not take it until I consult with my doctor. Got an appointment on Thursday.

Had my doctor's appt on Thursday. They checked everything out, did an ECG, and heart checked out normal. On his recommendation, I got the second dose on Saturday. Pretty much a repeat of the first go-round... chills, fever, etc and couldn't hardly sleep the first night, followed by a debilitating headache and fever all day on Sunday. I was unable to function at all and was only conscious for about an hour up until 6pm when my fever finally broke. Took me both lunch and dinner to get through half a bowl of ramen and a bottle of gatorade. Down to headache and low fever the next day. Last night, had the return of chest pain right on cue, but it wasn't as bad and didn't last as long. Feeling about 95% today.

Chip Johnson made a Facebook post asking about people experiences with the vaccine, which was the most honest, open, and non-cluttered thread I've seen to date. Those anecdotes seem to match up fairly well with official stats: Apparently I'm just among the "lucky" few who have had severe reactions to the vaccine. Should've bought a lottery ticket. I'd say, "at least that's over with", until they start the booster BS. That's coming in just a few weeks for those who got their shots early.

Following is a quote of Alex Berenson, a former ten year NYT contributor that reported on Big Pharma, that got him deleted from Twitter. For your consideration.

Alex Berenson: It doesn't stop infection. Or transmission..

Don't think of it as a vaccine.

Think of it - at best - as a therapeutic with a limited window of efficacy and terrible side effect profile that must be dosed IN ADVANCE OF ILLNESS.

And we want to mandate it? Insanity.

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Originally posted by Canted Valve:
Following is a quote of Alex Berenson, a former ten year NYT contributor that reported on Big Pharma, that got him deleted from Twitter. For your consideration.

Alex Berenson: It doesn't stop infection. Or transmission..

Don't think of it as a vaccine.

Think of it - at best - as a therapeutic with a limited window of efficacy and terrible side effect profile that must be dosed IN ADVANCE OF ILLNESS.

And we want to mandate it? Insanity.

Do you always take medical advice from someone that has bachelor's degrees in history and economics?

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Originally posted by Trans Lady:

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Originally posted by Canted Valve:
Following is a quote of Alex Berenson, a former ten year NYT contributor that reported on Big Pharma, that got him deleted from Twitter. For your consideration.

Alex Berenson: It doesn't stop infection. Or transmission..

Don't think of it as a vaccine.

Think of it - at best - as a therapeutic with a limited window of efficacy and terrible side effect profile that must be dosed IN ADVANCE OF ILLNESS.

And we want to mandate it? Insanity.

Do you always take medical advice from someone that has bachelor's degrees in history and economics?

Better option than eugenicist Gates, you've subscribed.

He's been advocating depopulation for years. On video

Your health experts, ya rely on for advice stk 758 BP?

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I feel sorry for you. Having to resort to this to get a response? Sorry pal, no interest in carrying on any further with you.

Resort to what Truth? It's a photo, making it not only Truth, but also observable Truth.

There's never anything wrong with Truth. Truth is how rational humans come to rational conclusions.

You're only as good as the people you surround yourself with.

These are your peeps.

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Originally posted by Trans Lady:

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Originally posted by Canted Valve:
Following is a quote of Alex Berenson, a former ten year NYT contributor that reported on Big Pharma, that got him deleted from Twitter. For your consideration.

Alex Berenson: It doesn't stop infection. Or transmission..

Don't think of it as a vaccine.

Think of it - at best - as a therapeutic with a limited window of efficacy and terrible side effect profile that must be dosed IN ADVANCE OF ILLNESS.

And we want to mandate it? Insanity.

Do you always take medical advice from someone that has bachelor's degrees in history and economics?

That's not really the point. The point really is in my signature. Instead of letting people decide for themselves given all the opinions and data, they are selective about what we can read.

Ok. Me being honest moment. Got a flu shot last Thursday and I felt like crap until today. Felt fine until the shot, so it had to be the damn shot. I might revise my thoughts of getting the 3rd (booster) shot. Of course I will check with Fauci first!

Larry,

I have had both Pfizer shots but I’m not sure about the 3rd one. I have had some friends and acquaintances die from “COVID” or something similar. Also a bunch that survived. Just not sure I want to take that third jab. I hate to say this but I wish it were more clear cut. Too much disinformation out there.

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Originally posted by Canted Valve:
This is a disturbing analysis of the current state of affairs in America.

Yes. This is very disturbing. Once upon a time 2 opposing parties competed for a degree of political domination. Now opposition is turning into enemy of traditional american values. I will complain to local legislators but little more I can do other than vote.

Even dems I know are not taking victory laps and regretting vote for. "Not my president" the empty head sock puppet.**

** = Though "Not my president" is not correct factually, the left has made it so popular that it may as well be used to express disdain. Goes along with the left allowing double standards and omitting accountability for their supporters. The sore loser, snowflake mentality is bad for america.

Maybe not our President would be more appropriate with the amount of voter fraud seen in the last election. Nobody on the left is interested in making sure. So I guess we are good.

I was thinking last night that I hear people who wear a mask if asked to are living in fear. Well, I'm not the one taking my dog's or horse's worm medicine. I'm also not the one playing chemist with crazy combinations of meds and taking them.

Y'all have a good holiday weekend.

Question for those who are afraid of concoction of chemicals in the 'vaccine shots'? You eat a hotdog, do you know what it's really made of? Eat anything from McDonalds? know what went into creating that Big Mac, McRib etc. Get my point? The duplicitous and equivocation statements from some on this forum are laughable, some of you have no f'ing idea what your talking about.

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Question for those who are afraid of concoction of chemicals in the 'vaccine shots'? You eat a hotdog, do you know what it's really made of? Eat anything from McDonalds? know what went into creating that Big Mac, McRib etc. Get my point? The duplicitous and equivocation statements from some on this forum are laughable, some of you have no f'ing idea what your talking about.

Yea,but nobody is FORCED or MANDATED to eat at McDonald's.

Florida looks like the place to be:


https://www.theepochtimes.com/...MtsE%2Fti2uys6oU9r2I

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Florida looks like the place to be:


https://www.theepochtimes.com/...MtsE%2Fti2uys6oU9r2I

God bless Florida for protecting the rights of individuals. Regardless of what your thoughts about the vaccine are, everyone should support legislation that protects our individual rights.

Something interesting I received from the VA today

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Dear Veteran,
Whether you need a third COVID-19 dose or you’re trying to visit your favorite restaurant, there’s a chance that you’ll need to show your COVID-19 vaccination status. We have step-by-step directions on how to get your vaccine record online.
Start with a Premium account
The best way to view and print your record is with a Premium My HealtheVet account. With a Premium account, you can download a copy of your vaccine records. This option works best on a desktop computer or laptop. Here’s how you do it:
• Click on Health Records.
• Click on either VA Blue Button Report or VA Health Summary. You can choose either or both.
• Download or share your information.
• For VA Blue Button: Select a date range to include in your report. For the type of information, select VA Immunizations. Your report will list each dose of your COVID-19 vaccine separately.
o After you submit your request, you’ll receive links to a PDF and a plain text version of your report to download.
• For VA Health Summary: To get started, select Immunizations from the table of contents. You can’t edit the date range or type of vaccine information you want to include in the report.
o After you submit your request, you’ll receive links to a PDF and an XML file version of your report to download. Each file contains a list of your immunizations.

I found out one other disturbing thing they really do not want to talk about. This new vaccine is a different technology than previous types of vaccines. This uses DNA and alters it to fight the disease and how it works on our bodies. So it is relatively untested and we have to sign a release saying we know it is experimental.

But what bothers me is they said that it uses DNA from other animals to. Did not say what animals just that it is "Not only Human DNA".

So once you change your DNA it is forever and in your future children etc.

How does anyone know for sure that there is not a disease in say Monkeys or Rabbits or what ever "Other Animal DNA" they used that could potentially kill us later?

We know that many animals have diseases that we can not catch. Now you put some of that DNA in us now we may be susceptible to something many years down the road that we did not even know or care about before but could be deadly later.

Probably pretty unlikely but once you let the Genie out of the bottle it is too late.

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Originally posted by Curly1:
I found out one other disturbing thing they really do not want to talk about. This new vaccine is a different technology than previous types of vaccines. This uses DNA and alters it to fight the disease and how it works on our bodies. So it is relatively untested and we have to sign a release saying we know it is experimental.

But what bothers me is they said that it uses DNA from other animals to. Did not say what animals just that it is "Not only Human DNA".

So once you change your DNA it is forever and in your future children etc.

How does anyone know for sure that there is not a disease in say Monkeys or Rabbits or what ever "Other Animal DNA" they used that could potentially kill us later?

We know that many animals have diseases that we can not catch. Now you put some of that DNA in us now we may be susceptible to something many years down the road that we did not even know or care about before but could be deadly later.

Probably pretty unlikely but once you let the Genie out of the bottle it is too late.

Well now that I think of it I do eat lots of Bananas.