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This is where the Naysayers jump in and throw shade on the statistics.....

Ready....1-2-3..Go...LOL

Didn't take long as I predicted...

Everything is a conspiracy

Everything is some evil plot

Every piece of information is a lie manipulated by the Evil Empire

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Originally posted by Trans Lady:
The Biden administration moved more than $2 billion earmarked for COVID measures to deal with the influx of migrants at the border

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-a...ore-2-175149975.html

Trump "diverting" funds the left lose their mind, Biden does it no problem.

Imagine that! It would result in an another failed Impeachment !

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This is where the Naysayers jump in and throw shade on the statistics.....

Ready....1-2-3..Go...LOL



Didn't take long as I predicted...

Everything is a conspiracy

Everything is some evil plot

Every piece of information is a lie manipulated by the Evil Empire

Wow, you are sooooo smart! Take a bow.

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Originally posted by Canted Valve:

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This is where the Naysayers jump in and throw shade on the statistics.....

Ready....1-2-3..Go...LOL



Didn't take long as I predicted...

Everything is a conspiracy

Everything is some evil plot

Every piece of information is a lie manipulated by the Evil Empire

Wow, you are sooooo smart! Take a bow.

Yea I am thanks for noticing.....

It would be mighty white of you, if you understood in western civilization, Truth is determined in nature (reality).

Not from the stinking mouths of lying bureaucrats or their puppet masters, the technocrats. Pushed forward by the stinking lying mouths, in the mainstream media.

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Originally posted by n5ifi:
The US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:
0-19 99.997%
20-49 99.98%
50-69 99.5%

Locked this biotch down for the flu, destroyed millions of jobs & and most likely America permanently, and dorks see no Truth through the smoke & mirrors of the stinking lying mouths in the lefty mainstream media.

Bend over for more without a peep.

Amazing!

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Originally posted by n5ifi:
The US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:
0-19 99.997%
20-49 99.98%
50-69 99.5%

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Originally posted by SCDIV1:
I Saw a chart today of countries with high vaccine inoculations vs countries with low vaccine inoculations and the number of cases and it was a clear as can be.....The countries that were low had MUCH higher infection rates and are the ones with high death rates. India was one....Low vaccinations, high death rates.....

Statistics don't lie.

You put a RacePack or some other brand Data recorder in your car to gather data and use it to make informed decisions on changes or to evaluate problems....

Same thing here.....Data..

Data does not lie.....How the data is evaluated can be somewhat skewed but when it is as clear as what I saw there is no doubt vaccines are working against this virus......

This is where the Naysayers jump in and throw shade on the statistics.....

Ready....1-2-3..Go...LOL

I don’t trust my government and haven’t for some time. So false statistics are everywhere. But I do believe that vaccinations lower infection rates. Where do we take the conversation from there?

Every Americans moral obligation is to Truth.

Truth is not decided by authorities in western civilization, it is determined in nature (reality).

It would be mighty white of you to educate yourself further, than through a box of Ding Dongs on your couch, watching lying, stinking mouths on a loop 24/7, in the Lefty mainstream media.

So Biden says if you were Vaccinated you don't have to were a mask. If you weren't Vaccinated you HAVE to wear a mask. What about the millions of people who got the Virus and have the Antibodies? Reading off a teleprompter that doesn't mention the folks that got the Virus and probably have more antibodies built up then those who were Vaccinated. It's a shame that we don't have a President that can think!

Biden is Royalty, in the eyes of anyone who follows his unlawful commands.

Not a President.

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Originally posted by n5ifi:
The US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:
0-19 99.997%
20-49 99.98%
50-69 99.5%

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I don’t trust my government and haven’t for some time. So false statistics are everywhere. But I do believe that vaccinations lower infection rates. Where do we take the conversation from there?

I'd say that pretty well sums it up. I would note the stats originally quoted were for "countries", so we're likely talking data from the WHO and the UN, etc. So "my government" looks like saints compared to the international acronym bureaucracies.

I will be glad when this hits some sort of normality so we can get back to arguing about first or worst red light and stop hating on one another. JMO

Curtis

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I will be glad when this hits some sort of normality so we can get back to arguing about first or worst red light and stop hating on one another. JMO

Curtis

I suspect with all the chaos surrounding information and reversals of reversals this is a long way off now. I would like to understand what core purpose this serves. The divide is growing instead of shrinking, is this by design? Or just liberal wishlist stupidity going all in? There are no true moderates now, only an arena of 2 sides.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
I will be glad when this hits some sort of normality so we can get back to arguing about first or worst red light and stop hating on one another. JMO

Curtis

I suspect with all the chaos surrounding information and reversals of reversals this is a long way off now. I would like to understand what core purpose this serves. The divide is growing instead of shrinking, is this by design? Or just liberal wishlist stupidity going all in? There are no true moderates now, only an arena of 2 sides.

I agree and to some extent I think the division is affecting decisions. It ought to be a personal decision based upon your own health beliefs and values. Not a politically influenced decision, and certainly not mandated. The more the left pushes the vaccine, the less inclined I really am to consider it. I respect the decisions of others and would never call someone a sheep for getting the shot. Frankly I think it is good for keeping the population infection low, and good for people looking to lower their chances of being ill from the virus.

I find myself at times struggling to relate to those who have vastly different political views than I have. But I try to maintain respect, as hard as it can be. But with health decisions, frankly it's none of my business what others decide. Far be it for me to judge someone based upon their own health decisions. Some people who I greatly respect have gone the opposite way that I have. But then I am sitting on a boatload of antibodies at the moment. So arguably I am as safe as anyone from the virus for the moment.

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It ought to be a personal decision based upon your own health beliefs and values. Not a politically influenced decision, and certainly not mandated. The more the left pushes the vaccine, the less inclined I really am to consider it. I respect the decisions of others and would never call someone a sheep for getting the shot.
I find myself at times struggling to relate to those who have vastly different political views than I have. But I try to maintain respect, as hard as it can be. But with health decisions, frankly it's none of my business what others decide. Far be it for me to judge someone based upon their own health decisions.

I agree with Bucky 100%.
Here is what is troubling me more than anything else about Covid AND the vaccine: The outright censorship and suppression of EVERY bit of information that has any angle other than the CDC/White house and their "official state-run media", (including on social media). This suppression of information is so blatant and vile that I feel like we turned into Red China overnight, when the current administration took office. (BTW, THANK YOU SL for allowing Freedom of Speech on your site. It is an endangered species in our "Free Country" these days).
Not just talking about the flat out falsification of data, or the artificially inflated numbers published without ANY reference to the data source or the veracity of the data. Here is an example of what I am saying: My sister is a public school teacher in one of the liberal cesspool states that offers the least personal freedoms in the country. She is in a FB group with many other teachers in her district, and another that is a statewide group of teachers and administrators. These folks are falling like flies after getting jabbed. She sends me screen shots almost daily, of posts in these groups mentioning the sudden, unexpected death of colleagues, and the "cause of death unknown" articles. Then she sends me screen shots showing where the posts have been blocked or removed because they "were not based on science", and/or were "reviewed by experts and determined to contain false information". They never say who these so-called "experts" are, but the posts are coming from spouses, sons, daughters, and parents of the deceased. The same thing is happening in many other professions wherein the practitioners work closely with the public and are either required, or pressured to take the vaccine.
My trust in our current government, and the CDC, and the WHO, and the media, (news and social), has never been lower in my 63 years.
The truth is being hidden, the numbers are fabricated, the court of public opinion is being silenced, suppressed, controlled, and outright censored.
I remember my mother telling me as a child, during the height of the Cold War era, that the communist master plan was to take over the USA without firing a shot. It damned well seems like she was dead-on with a zero.
So NO, I will not let Biden, or Faucci, or any other lying untrustworthy bureaucrat force me to take an untested, unapproved, unknown-side-effects "emergency" vaccination, (and sign off on any future recourse against the gov or the big pharma producer), based on their daily version of "science" that not only defies scientific textbooks, but evolves continuously to match whatever their agenda is.
Not until they at least remove the obvious censorship, allow freedom of speech, freedom of opinions other than theirs, and permit publication of SCIENTIFIC studies and results that both support AND go against their narrative, so the public can make informed decisions. (Why does Mr. Fukkerberg and his bookface and yoohoo-tube companies continue to take down videos produced by groups of very highly decorated and well-respected physicians and scientists who produce detailed, scientific studies that don't fit the neo-communist party narrative)? Why does the corrupt democrat mouthpiece media only echo what the clueless, doddering old fool and his puppet-masters say? The trust factor is near zero for me, and they have worked hard to earned that lack of trust, with their diligent efforts to promote ONLY their angle, and shut out anything in opposition, or even just slightly different than their narrative. Never in my life have I seen so much blocking of personal expression, thought, and speech in the United States of America, once the shining Beacon of Freedom for the world to see...
(Again, I know folks who have had the Covid, some who have died with it, though not necessarily from it. And yes, the vaccines apparently are reducing some numbers. But MAN, they are making it harder and harder to figure out who or what to believe). The only true American way to deal with where we are at right now? Masks and Vaccinations OPTIONAL. Personal choice. Personal decision. Period. So when Grampa Joe says we have only 2 options, Wear a Mask, or Get Vaccinated, he obviously forgot about option #3: (Let the People decide for Themselves).

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FBJ, accurate and astute observations, but don't expect your truths and logic to sway the "beliefs" that others hold. It's hard to fathom but the Kool-Aid is strong.

(Again, I know folks who have had the Covid, some who have died with it, though not necessarily from it. And yes, the vaccines apparently are reducing some numbers. But MAN, they are making it harder and harder to figure out who or what to believe). The only true American way to deal with where we are at right now? Masks and Vaccinations OPTIONAL. Personal choice. Personal decision. Period. So when Grampa Joe says we have only 2 options, Wear a Mask, or Get Vaccinated, he obviously forgot about option #3: (Let the People decide for Themselves).

Totally agree with that Jim. We do have a choice.

Nancy Polosi is fining Republican congressional members for not wearing there masks, even though they were Vaccinated. Are racers next at the tracks?

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Nancy Polosi is fining Republican congressional members for not wearing there masks, even though they were Vaccinated.

Outstanding, hair of the dog. Politicians being pushed around by other, more powerful, politicians.

It's all about power. Sick woman!