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I have had both shots and so far doing fine. Same with Mama, both shots and doing fine. | |||
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My wife and I had our first dose of moderna a week ago, so far so good, no reactions at all. My wife has numerous health issues from bad knees to a bad heart and kidneys. She was told that if she gets the virus she wont live. Getting the vaccine for her was a no brainer even if it is a long shot if it works or not, no harm, no foul. Me on the other hand, I have never been sick in 72 years, not the flu or a cold or anything. The worst I have had is hayfever in the spring and fall, so me getting the shot was a little iffy.But my wife says to get it cause im old. Like they say happy wife, happy life. | |||
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I absolutely respect that if you want to take it. I also agree Happy Wife Happy life. Lol. I do not like being FORCED to take it as a condition of employment. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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That happens all the time. I’m not saying you have to agree with it though. ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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I do not smoke but it reminds me of the company I work for since 1985. Around 2000 they decided that it was going to be a Non Smoking Company and everyone was going to quit. Stroke of the pen new Executive order everyone is just going to quit smoking. Right. I did not approve of that and I do not even smoke. I do not think it is right for something that is legal for an employer to suddenly decide you are going to quit after smoking for how ever many years. Yes, smoking is bad for you and they did offer help to quit smoking but you still have to want to quit and it has to be your choice. I also feel it is not right that they can require you not smoke even on your own time. Same with the vaccine, I would not have any problem if the company highly recommended it to all employees but feel they are stepping over the line to force the vaccine on you. I suspect it will be a Nationwide forced vaccine before the end of the year. I will be fighting that to should it happen. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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What doctor in their right mind would tell a woman "if you get it you will die"? Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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The TV has been saying it for a year. If the TV says it. it must be true.  Take the two week challenge, no TV. After two weeks no TV it'll be like Rowdy Roddy Piper putting on those glasses in the movie "They Live" You'll be able to see the freak show.  | |||
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Getting the vaccine was a toss up for me. I figured as long as it didn't kill me, no harm done even if it doesn't work. But for my wife, any chance at all to keep her from getting it is worth it, seeing as how with her bad heart her immune and respiratory system doesn't work any more, there would be no way for her body to fight it off. I know a guy, mid 40's, strong as an ox, works construction, never been sick, caught covid, went to the hospital, lived but now cant walk more than 40 steps without getting winded. Another acquaintance, same age got a sore throat, went and got tested, came back positive, 2 days later was back to normal. It affects everyone different I guess. As far as being forced to comply with requirements, I think is all about the circumstances. For example, a customer of mine required that vendors and independent contractors go to there main office and sign in and watch a 20 minute video every time you wanted to get on the job site which was 30 miles away. I was forced to comply if I wanted to work for them. I wasn't forced to comply if I didn't. In the mid 90's when MSHA and OSHA started to throw their weight around on to companies, some companies went overboard, like requiring employees to wear hard hats at all times, even in vehicles, private or company. That requirement was not necessary. | |||
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I'm a maintenance manager and contract administrator for our plant, and yes, there are some requirements for PPE, including masks during this time. Our largest concern is not having people sick, but rather having a good portion of our working population having to quarantine. However, while we require certain things to protect the outside of your body, requiring you to put something INSIDE your body is kind of a horse of a different color. I suspect there will be legal cases about this coming soon. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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Also, while talking about personal experiences: our plant has exceeded the national average for infection %. Not by a ton, but more. But since the general population started their steady climb before the election, we have had NO cases. None. The cases we had earlier, without exception for our plant, were quite mild. A few had a bit of fever for a day or two. Most didn't. Many had loss of taste and smell for some time. Fairly wide range of working mostly males. Interesting to me also is the thought that our hospitals are "overwhelmed". I have heard this endlessly. I heard it all summer. I heard it at the same rate as we peaked recently. So I looked at our hospital patient days and compared to 2019. Virtually no difference. So much for overwhelmed! yes there were more covid and fewer other things that probably should be addressed. But the notion that our health care system is on the brink of collapse, is nonsense. If that was the case, then I think we have a bunch of work to do to make sure our healthcare system is more robust. Yes indeed the virus is real. Yes people have and are dying, from this and other things. Yes overall deaths were higher this year. But the increase is fairly unimpressive statistically. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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When you say you looked at your hospital patient days was it the ICU? That is what has been stressed around here. Not enough beds to handle ICU patients. The beds are still full but they aren't having to make places to put new ones. It seems to be slowing. That is just what I was told Sunday by my son based on the hospital he works in. ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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Overall patient days. There was no breakdown of ICU days. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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A few facts to ponder! As reported by the CDC in 2017: 2,818,503 Americans died 2018: 2,839,205 Americans died, an increase of 20,702 from 2017. 2019: 2,855,000 Americans died, an increase of 16,300 from 2018. 2020: 2,913,144 Americans died, an increase of 57,641 from 2019. BUT WAIT: There was zero deaths from Covid-19 during 2018 and 2019 and the jump from 2019 to 2020 was only 57,641? I've been told that COVID is responsible for 400,000 + deaths. Shouldn't the 2020 number be much higher? So the question becomes: How many people died of COVID and How many died of (other causes) WITH COVID? When everything is coming your way, your probably in the wrong lane. | |||
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Larry, this article both agrees and disagrees with your numbers. From Dec. 22, 2020 https://apnews.com/article/us-...5563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7 ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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I see, I believe the CDC number was the final death tally from 2020. Your article quoted was December 22nd. When everything is coming your way, your probably in the wrong lane. | |||
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I gotta say that report is lacking on facts and the Ass Press was really mongering fear and coloring the picture with that article. The CDC numbers are what they are. And Larry you have a great question. Or to put it like a famous NY politician might: Who cares? They didn't die. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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And......a 2% increase in mortality, is noteworthy for sure. I will not dispute that. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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I just happened on to it a while back. I certainly don’t hold it as gospel. LOL ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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Received #2 today of Moderna today no ill effects yet.I will let everyone know if i feel any weird side effects.I work in a medical clinic and it was not required. VICTO 2012 West Coast Pro Gas E/Gas Champion | |||
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