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Originally posted by Curly1:

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Originally posted by Goob:


American Citizens aren't free to travel at will, and occupy any public space they choose?
Interesting theory.

True, let them Rob, Rape, Loot and Burn our cities to the ground. Do not stand up and protect our Cities, our Country and our way of life. Not.

Just bend over and let the Criminals do what they do. Nothing to see here Folks, Democrats what Democrats do.

It is quite interesting to see the perspective some have on this. This young man was assulted by a mob of rioters and he defends himself......and they label him a murderer. Strange world they live in.

It all comes down to one question at the time of each shooting. Offense or defense?

I don't know if it was offense or defense but he went there carrying an AR looking to get into trouble. The mob mentality was working over time and when they saw him with a gun they went for him. He put himself in that position.
If he had of been home watching sesame street he wouldn't have shot anyone and wouldn't be in trouble.

There is a case where a man suspected one of his cracked out distant family members and their significant other to be breaking into his house and stealing items to sell.

The man told family members and friends he was leaving town and parked his car several blocks over and walked to his own home to set up camp for the weekend. He hid in his own basement and they did eventually break in, he shot and killed them.

Shooting someone who breaks into your house is well within your rights. However the jury found the guy guilty of murder

Sometimes you look at an entire picture and not the isolated event

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Originally posted by Floyd Staggs:
I don't know if it was offense or defense but he went there carrying an AR looking to get into trouble. The mob mentality was working over time and when they saw him with a gun they went for him. He put himself in that position.
If he had of been home watching sesame street he wouldn't have shot anyone and wouldn't be in trouble.

You don't know if it was offence or defense? How?

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:
There is a case where a man suspected one of his cracked out distant family members and their significant other to be breaking into his house and stealing items to sell.

The man told family members and friends he was leaving town and parked his car several blocks over and walked to his own home to set up camp for the weekend. He hid in his own basement and they did eventually break in, he shot and killed them.

Shooting someone who breaks into your house is well within your rights. However the jury found the guy guilty of murder

Sometimes you look at an entire picture and not the isolated event

Was he defending himself?

So a black man attends the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. A white supremacist kicks him to the ground and beats him up. The black man pulls out a gun and kills the white guy. Black man had a right to defend himself and should shoot more than one because he is standing his ground ? Is that fair, I think not, he had no business being there..... just saying ?

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Originally posted by raptor:
So a black man attends the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. A white supremacist kicks him to the ground and beats him up. The black man pulls out a gun and kills the white guy. Black man had a right to defend himself and should shoot more than one because he is standing his ground ? Is that fair, I think not, he had no business being there..... just saying ?

Is this a real case you are referring to?

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:
There is a case where a man suspected one of his cracked out distant family members and their significant other to be breaking into his house and stealing items to sell.

The man told family members and friends he was leaving town and parked his car several blocks over and walked to his own home to set up camp for the weekend. He hid in his own basement and they did eventually break in, he shot and killed them.

Shooting someone who breaks into your house is well within your rights. However the jury found the guy guilty of murder

Sometimes you look at an entire picture and not the isolated event

Was he defending himself?

Defending himself from people who broke into his home and the jury found him guilty. This isn’t a made up hypothetical situation, it happened

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:
There is a case where a man suspected one of his cracked out distant family members and their significant other to be breaking into his house and stealing items to sell.

The man told family members and friends he was leaving town and parked his car several blocks over and walked to his own home to set up camp for the weekend. He hid in his own basement and they did eventually break in, he shot and killed them.

Shooting someone who breaks into your house is well within your rights. However the jury found the guy guilty of murder

Sometimes you look at an entire picture and not the isolated event

Was he defending himself?

Defending himself from people who broke into his home and the jury found him guilty. This isn’t a made up hypothetical situation, it happened

Anything can happen with a jury of gullible PEOPLE.

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:
There is a case where a man suspected one of his cracked out distant family members and their significant other to be breaking into his house and stealing items to sell.

The man told family members and friends he was leaving town and parked his car several blocks over and walked to his own home to set up camp for the weekend. He hid in his own basement and they did eventually break in, he shot and killed them.

Shooting someone who breaks into your house is well within your rights. However the jury found the guy guilty of murder

Sometimes you look at an entire picture and not the isolated event

You believe this kid set a trap for these people? That’s the implication I get from your story. I do agree about looking at the whole picture.

You don't know if it was offence or defense? How?[/QUOTE]

If you show up at a riot carrying a rifle it could turn out to be defense but it didn't start that way. He started the evening offensively. And it bit him in the butt. Nobody would have thought a thing about an 18 year old kid in a crowd if he didn't have that rifle.

He traveled 15 miles from his home.

He was not bused in like the Antifa paid professional rioters were.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:
There is a case where a man suspected one of his cracked out distant family members and their significant other to be breaking into his house and stealing items to sell.

The man told family members and friends he was leaving town and parked his car several blocks over and walked to his own home to set up camp for the weekend. He hid in his own basement and they did eventually break in, he shot and killed them.

Shooting someone who breaks into your house is well within your rights. However the jury found the guy guilty of murder

Sometimes you look at an entire picture and not the isolated event

You believe this kid set a trap for these people? That’s the implication I get from your story. I do agree about looking at the whole picture.

While the people were not entrapped, I am implying that I believe rittenhouse left looking for trouble. No one would tell their kid it is a good idea to load the gun up and drive to a riot

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Originally posted by Floyd Staggs:
You don't know if it was offence or defense? How?

If you show up at a riot carrying a rifle it could turn out to be defense but it didn't start that way. He started the evening offensively. And it bit him in the butt. Nobody would have thought a thing about an 18 year old kid in a crowd if he didn't have that rifle.[/QUOTE]

If he went there to kill people, why was he running from people when he was armed?

Well hell lets not blame the damn thugs that got shot for chasing down a guy because he did not stand by and let them steal shyt in the name of some inoccent drug addict thug who died being the punk a$$ peace of shyt he had always been.

Lets blame the guy who stood up against them and was chased down and when had two choice be beaten or to shoot the SOB & choose the right one. Fuk right and wrong as long as nobody stands up against a thieving POS.
and lets them do anything they want there will be no problem.

Might agree wasn't his fight to begine with. But once they chased after a guy with a AR in his hand they took the chance of getting shot into their hands and looks like they bet the wrong way.

I can't believe so many are standing up for a bunch of thieving a$$ thugs. WTF are you smoking?

If my language offends sorry but some times it just fits.

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by Floyd Staggs:
You don't know if it was offence or defense? How?

If you show up at a riot carrying a rifle it could turn out to be defense but it didn't start that way. He started the evening offensively. And it bit him in the butt. Nobody would have thought a thing about an 18 year old kid in a crowd if he didn't have that rifle.

If he went there to kill people, why was he running from people when he was armed?[/QUOTE]

Exactly^^.
I think he did good running I sure as hell wouldn't. There is reason for 30 rd magizines.Less time wasted changing them,

I say give him medal and reward for shooting the sorry MF'ers.

In an effort to see where it is that the differing opinions diverge.....

What if the situation wasn't a kid from out of town. What if it was a business owner, locked inside his business, and shot some who were trying to get inside? Murderer?

I carry a gun as a deterrent, if you are fool enough to threaten me thats just to bad. I have no obligation to retreat. Here as Chris knows we have a stand your ground law, a castle doctrine law, and an open carry law. Gives you a lot of room to protect yourself from those that wish to harm you. And you are not harming anyone standing around with an AR, its a deterrent until someone attacks you then it becomes protection.