There's been a lot of b!tching and moaning, whining and critiquing of racers at Big Money events this year. Not exactly sure what has brought this on as it also seems as though it's by the onlooking racers more than anyone. I attend a lot of these events (fortunately) and I don't hear or see much of the complaining at the event level.

I've had my own run ins over the years and I'm sure I've done a few thing unintentionally and intentionally due to circumstances. Seen it all. Quick tree staging, bulb flickering, slow staging, hard dumping, ET Dial changing, gas ripp'n and the list goes on including a lot of BS mind games.

BUT... In my opinion, this is the BIG LEAGUES. Do I condone any of it? No, but do I hate on my fellow racers for trying to gain an edge on the biggest stage I feel racers like us can compete on? No, I've just had to sharpen my game to prepare for the things that happen in the other lane. This is the BIG LEAGUES and we are racing with the most innovative thinkers in the game.

We pay a LOT of money to compete in these events. There is a LOT of money on the line. Emotions are HIGH to say the least at these events and racers sometimes don't make the wisest of decisions when placed in a pressure cooker. But that being said, you better be ready for the gauntlet when the BIG SHOW rolls into town.

SL...

What kind of purse would you be running for without LITTLE LEAGUERS in attendance?

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Originally posted by Phil Dees:
What kind of purse would you be running for without LITTLE LEAGUERS in attendance?

It’s their choice to enter that arena, or not.

Makes you ask who is in charge in the "big leagues"?

The point is it ain't the BIG LEAGUES if half of the players are LITTLE LEAGUERS.

Whining about what? What are we talking about specifically here?

Biggest issue I have had with the so called big league races is if you don't make it down to 8 cars your pretty much just donating IMO. But then again if your not in it you can't win it either... You never know when it may be your day so if that's your thing you have to keep trying

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Whining about what? What are we talking about specifically here?

Exactly… LETS HEAR IT !

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Originally posted by Phil Dees:
The point is it ain't the BIG LEAGUES if half of the players are LITTLE LEAGUERS.

EXACTLY and far less than half! maybe 10% aka “big league” racers really have the skills and cars to get to the round of 16 and when the little leaguers finally wise up and or run out of money, then will see a lot less big leagues racing.

I think he's saying, if you don't have the wherewithal - money to pay to get into the big leagues, you don't know how it is in the "pressure cooker", as only just an "onlooker".

What he's saying is all us little leaguers spent 22 pages talking about the actions of a big leaguer and unless we spend the money to buy our way into the big leagues then keep our opinions to ourselves

Whoever has the wherewithal - money for the most entry's wins.

Evidence for this idea comes from the fact you can be considered the best ever by so-called experts, and not have any statistics which point to you even being the best in your own neighborhood - home track.

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Originally posted by 60 falcon:
What he's saying is all us little leaguers spent 22 pages talking about the actions of a big leaguer and unless we spend the money to buy our way into the big leagues then keep our opinions to ourselves

I don't want to assume and let's not put words in his mouth.

He should be calling out cancel culture and the woke culture.

The cancel culture promotes cancelling individuals by running smear campaigns, ending their careers.

And the woke culture promotes boycotts of institutions.

Completion of anger management was a rational punishment made by the NHRA. It fit the crime.

When you have a large group of racers that travel and race weekly for the majority of the year at big money races they will definitely have an advantage. And yes that makes them big league racers. Most people can't commit to that much racing in a year. If you can't afford these races maybe they aren't for you whoever you may be.

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Originally posted by Richard Hammond:
When you have a large group of racers that travel and race weekly for the majority of the year at big money races they will definitely have an advantage. And yes that makes them big league racers. Most people can't commit to that much racing in a year. If you can't afford these races maybe they aren't for you whoever you may be.

Absolute truth here. The more you race, especially the same car, the better you get at going rounds.

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Originally posted by 60 falcon:
What he's saying is all us little leaguers spent 22 pages talking about the actions of a big leaguer and unless we spend the money to buy our way into the big leagues then keep our opinions to ourselves

LOL! You nailed it for his 1st paragraph.

That's the way I read it lol

The idiom the "big league" is derived from American baseball, where the major leagues are the highest professional field of play.

Now imagine showing up for a Major League baseball game with $5,000 to qualify yourself to play.

And the promoter of the game says to you, welcome to the "bigs".

Give me a break, words have meanings. Words are not just for promoting money making endeavors.

Scott,
I'm not sure what you were trying to accomplish with your post but to me , it seems like unless you enter races paying more than say $250K we are not allowed to have an opinion.

If you only want the want the big leaguers to race, it will only be a five round race. Easy peasy.

I do notice that many " Big Leaguers" that used to post here no longer do.
I'm sure they lurk but dont post except for one that I can think of.

I just don't see what the reasoning behind your post. If you are trying to alienate your members/customers you might have done that.

I've never entered a race over $100K if it matters. I remember racing the first 50K races at Atco and Cecil in 90s/early 00s. I think Peter won both. Does that allow me to be an *******? Can I be grandfathered in?