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Laughing my ass.


Me too. It's like ****** traded his red Chevelle for a red Nova.


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Glad you are ok and on the mend Bob!
Why do you think we are on the front side of this deal?

One thing for sure: China was at least reckless with this and at worst intentionally infected other countries. Our country needs to cut ties with that **** h0le regardless of how much it hurts. Many were critical of Trump when he played hardball with them. I was disappointed that he didn't go far enough.


What makes you think Trump played hardball with the chinese? Domestic United States manufacturing suffered paying the tariffs on commodities/inputs from china.

You wanna play hardball you don't penalize the inputs, you penalize the outputs like purchases of chinese garbaaaage at wally world mart.

I'd imagine the chinese were laughing.

https://youtu.be/mxAD_jTFm08


Laughing my ass. We collected boatloads of money, and most consumers saw NO price increases on stuff made in China. Who took it in the ass on that? China. They had no choice. Yes we had to pay our farmers. But even farmers didn't hurt significantly. Farmers all around me. Not one says they are struggling.


If the intent is to inflict pain on the chinese in a trade war, the chinese pay the tariffs on outputs such as goods on the way to Wally World mart.

Not domestic US manufacturers inputs such as chinese steel and aluminum.

I don't know how to make this anymore easy to understand. It's common sense.


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Both get it. It isn't just about pain. It makes American products more competitive against the Chinese products. That can of course be components. Why would you not want to gain ground on components as well?


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Laughing my ass.


Me too. It's like ****** traded his red Chevelle for a red Nova.


I just shake my head sometimes. I'm back to ignoring the chatter.


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If WalMart frightens you, don't go in there.

If the Chinese scare you, hide under the bed.

Back to your question; if tariffs make Chinese steel or aluminum more expensive, U.S. manufacturers using these materials for input are incented to do what? Buy U.S. steel or aluminum. Which does what? Incents steel and aluminum manufacturers to ramp up production here in the U.S. Which is what? A hell of a lot more important than making clothespins or gummy bears over here instead of over there.

I can't make it any simpler than that.

Trump is a Jeopardy person, you're more like a Wheel-of-Fortune guy.

This will no doubt make your head hurt. Take a couple Advil and go back to sleep now.


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Glad you are ok and on the mend Bob!
Why do you think we are on the front side of this deal?

One thing for sure: China was at least reckless with this and at worst intentionally infected other countries. Our country needs to cut ties with that **** h0le regardless of how much it hurts. Many were critical of Trump when he played hardball with them. I was disappointed that he didn't go far enough.


What makes you think Trump played hardball with the chinese? Domestic United States manufacturing suffered paying the tariffs on commodities/inputs from china.

You wanna play hardball you don't penalize the inputs, you penalize the outputs like purchases of chinese garbaaaage at wally world mart.

I'd imagine the chinese were laughing.

https://youtu.be/mxAD_jTFm08


Laughing my ass. We collected boatloads of money, and most consumers saw NO price increases on stuff made in China. Who took it in the ass on that? China. They had no choice. Yes we had to pay our farmers. But even farmers didn't hurt significantly. Farmers all around me. Not one says they are struggling.


100% correct on Farmers part. I have coffee every morning with 6 farmers and none got hurt one bit.Plus if you are around them long enough you learn of how much they make using government programs,which where set up for them to do.




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Ladies and Gentlemen:

Buckle up, the result of COVID-19 will be epic.

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Mike, what do you do for a living?



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Fighting it the American redneck way. Have 3 quarts moonshine and good supply of apple juice,we don't need no stinking Mexican beer.

Hey if alcohol distiller can switch to make hand sanitizer I figured drinking what they where making before has to be like sanitizing from the inside out.LMAO




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Mike, what do you do for a living?


I'm semi retired I suppose you could say after having an automotive shop on Benjamin Rd in Tampa for 28 years. I still do engines and transmissions and I'm an electrician by trade, I do a little of that as well. And I'll sell just about anything made in western civilization. I called this back in 2003 when the first wing wong ching chong crank walked into my shop for an engine I was doing for a guy I raced with. I told everyone i came in contact with, raced with it would come to this. I wasn't to worried about though because I understood exponential growth, I built my drag racing program on it. I also put a minimum of $20 dollars a day, some days a lot more in a safe I had bolted to red iron beam above the drop sealing six sometimes seven days a week. I understand exponential growth, it's why I never raced out of town much. Good thing I did because it allowed me to not participate in the globalism which was the goal/purpose, I made it. I live pretty simple for what are now obvious reasons. I knew this was coming. My dad didn't run away from the draft, he volunteered for the Army Air corps before the Second World War, he taught me how this would all go down and about exponential growth.

Now have you got anything rational to say about the reset?


LOL that was quite an answer to a question that I truly just wondered about. No ulterior motivates. Thanks.



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U.S. Sen. John Cornyn said Wednesday that the coronavirus pandemic had exposed the perils of relying on trade with China, drawing rebuke from Democratic leaders who saw some of his comments as racist.

https://www.statesman.com/news...-coronavirus-origins

These Democrats need to go. Why would anyone vote for these people!

I hope that businesses will now think twice about investing capital in China.
 
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I would wear the rebuke from a liberal as a badge of honor.


USA


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I'm often impersonated but never duplicated, so you just go right on using my words I'll take that as an indication of your admiration of them.
Unfortunately for you, they won't be providing any credibility to your argument.


Just so you know - educated people read your stuff and laugh, which is what I'm doing right now.


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The issue is NOT about how much $$ you have saved or available.
The issue is you will NOT be able to use it because you won't be able to find ANY FOOD, etc.

We went to the grocery store yesterday morning (Costco), they were out of all beef and chicken product, even hotdogs, shelves empty, NO toilet paper, NO paper towels, NO bottled water, Clorox was $20 a jug.

We then went to another store (Stop and Shop) and found the same thing.

Moral of the story:
Even if you have tens of thousands of dollars CASH in hand, you still won't be able to buy anything.
Cash/money is useless if there is nothing to spend it on.

As I stated earlier if people don't grow up and call this what it is, BS, people will be shooting people for a hotdog.

Not to mention that many folks that do have $$ soon won't since there is NO MONEY coming in so they will deplete their savings to try to pay what they have to (taxes, insurances, electric, gas, etc).

How many months can you survive with $0 coming in?

Saw that the Presidents new law cancels evictions so landlords are going to be taking it up the axx.

Sad times coming unless people SNAP OUT OF IT.


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Sad times coming unless people SNAP OUT OF IT.

Sad times are coming sooner or later, and it could be sooner. There won't be any snapping out of it. Transgressions have been made and the price will have to be paid, period. USA debt, and the world's for that matter, is beyond repair and ultimately a correction WILL have to be made. Some say the "greatest depression", verses of course the great depression. Hope for the best, but it pisses me off that people pissed away the America I once knew.


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I do not want to get over-dramatic about any of this but I do read it with a sense of understanding. Everyone lives their life in a different way although one can say that there are a lot of similarities. You mentioned going through life as if it were the Depression Years and that was a choice you made. Others have made other choices. Most of us are okay with out choices and depending on current circumstances will either be happy with them or question our own self about the choices we made. I think that's just part of human nature.

Currently, I think we are being manipulated - in some crazy view it appears to be a test of our reactions to the manipulation. This virus has not to this point been the killer that other viruses have been, yet you would think that the air outside right now is soaked with it when the media gets finished with their newscast. I am not discounting that people have died and will die from this virus - for each family that is a sad affair. But why bring such a huge hammer down on the entire population? What's the real intent?
 
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I do not want to get over-dramatic about any of this but I do read it with a sense of understanding. Everyone lives their life in a different way although one can say that there are a lot of similarities. You mentioned going through life as if it were the Depression Years and that was a choice you made. Others have made other choices. Most of us are okay with out choices and depending on current circumstances will either be happy with them or question our own self about the choices we made. I think that's just part of human nature.

Currently, I think we are being manipulated - in some crazy view it appears to be a test of our reactions to the manipulation. This virus has not to this point been the killer that other viruses have been, yet you would think that the air outside right now is soaked with it when the media gets finished with their newscast. I am not discounting that people have died and will die from this virus - for each family that is a sad affair. But why bring such a huge hammer down on the entire population? What's the real intent?


Latest reports out of Italy are more than 350 per day dead due to the virus. Now Italy is mostly older people which has contributed to these numbers however this is nothing to take lightly. While it is correct that many will simply catch the virus and recover, it is the havoc it is reaking on the health care system that is the real issue. Too many of these young people who feel they are immortal and dont care about this will be the first ones to rush to the ER when they start feeling symptoms, taking a bed a respirator, or other services that would be needed for someone at higher risk. This is the only reason for the recommendations as we have seen them.
 
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I can't say that anyone is wrong here. We just don't know. The lack of testing is putting us in a real poor situation where we are flying virtually blind.

IF, we are at the front of the curve, the worst is yet to come. How bad it will get and most importantly, how quickly is the question. I personally believe that we went further than needed. But.....without a crystal ball, assuming that I am right could create a medical disaster if our health care system and all parts associated are overwhelmed. THEN we would have a total economic meltdown that would make this look tame. So we error on the safer side. But we can't do that indefinitely. While the effects of corona are yet to be seen, the effects on our economy are already being seen, and we know they will get much worse the longer this goes.


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Too many of these young people who feel they are immortal and dont care about this will be the first ones to rush to the ER when they start feeling symptoms, taking a bed a respirator, or other services that would be needed for someone at higher risk. This is the only reason for the recommendations as we have seen them.


My wife is currently visiting my daughter in Florida. She said that they have now closed the beaches there as the younger set was refusing to adhere to the concentration rules that are in effect. My oldest granddaughter is in college, she too is ignoring it attending large gatherings and partying. Once again - choices - some may regret the ones they have recently made.
 
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One effective way to quantify tactics to reduce the spread of the virus is to measure the rate at which it doubles. If you use this process you can introduce specific tactics then measure their effectiveness. In another area introduce other specific measures and look at the rate at which the virus doubles in that area.

Simple but effective.

Thus far the most methods of reducing that "Doubling rate" has been:

(1) Stay home and away from everyone other than immediate Family members.
(2) When you are out in public areas use Social distancing.
(3) Washing your hands and avoid touching your face.
(4) If you exhibit the now familiar signs of COVID-19 stay way from everyone, especially older Family members or it will be transmitted back and forth for an extended period. To answer the question you are about to ask: Yes you can get "IT" again.

Follow the four effective methods and the virus will expend itself much faster.

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