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No Bucky , REAL DEEP....


HAVE THEY CALLED US YET ? THEY HAVE!!!
 
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So far,100 people have died from the Coronavirus.

But nobody mentions the 7400 + people on average that die in the US every day.On average,a person dies in the US every 12 seconds and that was before Coronavirus.
 
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647,000 per year heat disease
600k cancer
170k on accidents
160k on respiratory diseases
150k stroke
120or 130k on Alzheimer, I forget which
84k on diabetes
60k on the flu

I do hope that the 100 does not become 1000 or 10k, or much worse. I doubt it will....but we will see.


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If I didn't know any better I would swear that this is a ploy to kill the Trump Economy right before the election so now people will have no reason to vote for him.


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I spent the last three days at Grossmont Hospital ICU in La Mesa, California. I was originally diagnosed as Covid-19 and tested. luckily, if that can be lucky, it was pneumonia. To be safe (I'm about to be 79 in a few day) they held me in a quarantined private room after moving me from a "Negative pressure room". Everyone coming in contact with me was wearing a full containment space suit with filtered air equipment. Doctor's and Nurses only on 3 12 hour shifts to minimize contacts, no visitors. If I had contracted the Covid-19 I doubt that the outcome would have been this good.

The Cover-19 test was very, and I do mean VERY uncomfortable they put a probe which looks much like a pipe cleaner up you nostrils, and I do mean WAY up your nostrils to the point where they bleed. I was tested twice, the first test was sent to a Pathology Lab in Denver for analysis. The second test was done Monday morning that was then sent to a Pathology Lab in California. I never got the results from the first test and due to the bad weather in Denver it probably would have taken another week. I was told that there is another test lab in Nebraska, so the question is what the he11 planed this moronic process, Denver, Nebraska......really?

I believe that we are at the front end of this "Thing" and it's going to get a lot worst very quickly. It spreads exponentially, sort of like doubling a penny for 30 days the total number really takes off in about 25 days, and we are there now. Stay home, stay away from other people contain yourself to your Family and keep the kids away from other children, THEY will be the primary source of the viral spread. Heart decease , cancer and Alzheimers are not contagious, Covid-19 IS contagious, and it's far more contagious than the Flu or a cold.

Don't fool around with this, if not for yourself do it for your Family!

Bob
 
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If I didn't know any better I would swear that this is a ploy to kill the Trump Economy right before the election so now people will have no reason to vote for him.


I find it hard to believe that this was intentional to hurt an american election when it is effecting the whole world. But then again that is just me, there are some conspiracy theories going around and some of them I do find comical. I am sure that killing off thousands of people all over the world are a result of trying to impact our election. I will give you this to ponder, the mortality rate of this is projected to be between 2.5 and 4%, the worlds population is in excess of 7.5 billion people. If gone un-checked this single virus could result in a death toll of more than 300 million people. Not trying to use scare tactics, just simply stating the facts as they have been reported by numerous agencies. the problem I see here in America is the individuals with the it wont affect me attitude, with no understanding of the manner of how this is spread or the implications it will have on individuals they may not even know due to their selfish needs to maintain life as usual. An example of this is, I do not know the people who work in the grocery store personally, yet there is interaction with a few of them on each visit. I do not know all of the other people shopping at the same time, yet we are all in a confined space for the time we are in there. All it takes is one infected person and the risk to EVERYONE else who was there has just increased exponentially. I have my views on these things as everyone has their own and that is good that we all dont see things the same way, and I am thankful that we can have these conversations about our views on these matters as I believe it makes us all a little more aware of specific things as we all share our views. Somewhere in all of these discussions throughout the various discussion boards and sits will be the answer.

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I spent the last three days at Grossmont Hospital ICU in La Mesa, California. I was originally diagnosed as Covid-19 and tested. luckily, if that can be lucky, it was pneumonia. To be safe (I'm about to be 79 in a few day) they held me in a quarantined private room after moving me from a "Negative pressure room". Everyone coming in contact with me was wearing a full containment space suit with filtered air equipment. Doctor's and Nurses only on 3 12 hour shifts to minimize contacts, no visitors. If I had contracted the Covid-19 I doubt that the outcome would have been this good.

The Cover-19 test was very, and I do mean VERY uncomfortable they put a probe which looks much like a pipe cleaner up you nostrils, and I do mean WAY up your nostrils to the point where they bleed. I was tested twice, the first test was sent to a Pathology Lab in Denver for analysis. The second test was done Monday morning that was then sent to a Pathology Lab in California. I never got the results from the first test and due to the bad weather in Denver it probably would have taken another week. I was told that there is another test lab in Nebraska, so the question is what the he11 planed this moronic process, Denver, Nebraska......really?

I believe that we are at the front end of this "Thing" and it's going to get a lot worst very quickly. It spreads exponentially, sort of like doubling a penny for 30 days the total number really takes off in about 25 days, and we are there now. Stay home, stay away from other people contain yourself to your Family and keep the kids away from other children, THEY will be the primary source of the viral spread. Heart decease , cancer and Alzheimers are not contagious, Covid-19 IS contagious, and it's far more contagious than the Flu or a cold.

Don't fool around with this, if not for yourself do it for your Family!

Bob


Wow Bob I am glad you are okay, must of been a scary deal for sure.
My dad is 82 and his wife 84, they are hunkered down in there house in Murrieta. Bored out of their minds but knows its best
 
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As I said before, I don't think the sky is falling and I don't doubt the media is going to do their best to blow it up, but you guys comparing it to the flu should do a little research...
The flu has an incubation period of 1-4 days. Corona virus is nearly 2 weeks. Think of how many people the average human interacts with each day and how many a contagious person could infect over 2 weeks time. Sure the flu has killed more, but that gives this the potential to infect way more people if no measures are taken. Sure, you may be healthy and capable of recovering, but how many will you interact with and infect in the 2 weeks before you feel sick who aren't so lucky? The ICU's in Italy aren't overflowing because of some bulls**t a talking head at CNN said.


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If I didn't know any better I would swear that this is a ploy to kill the Trump Economy right before the election so now people will have no reason to vote for him.


I find it hard to believe that this was intentional to hurt an american election when it is effecting the whole world. But then again that is just me, there are some conspiracy theories going around and some of them I do find comical. I am sure that killing off thousands of people all over the world are a result of trying to impact our election. I will give you this to ponder, the mortality rate of this is projected to be between 2.5 and 4%, the worlds population is in excess of 7.5 trillion people. If gone un-checked this single virus could result in a death toll of more than 300 million people. Not trying to use scare tactics, just simply stating the facts as they have been reported by numerous agencies. the problem I see here in America is the individuals with the it wont affect me attitude, with no understanding of the manner of how this is spread or the implications it will have on individuals they may not even know due to their selfish needs to maintain life as usual. An example of this is, I do not know the people who work in the grocery store personally, yet there is interaction with a few of them on each visit. I do not know all of the other people shopping at the same time, yet we are all in a confined space for the time we are in there. All it takes is one infected person and the risk to EVERYONE else who was there has just increased exponentially. I have my views on these things as everyone has their own and that is good that we all dont see things the same way, and I am thankful that we can have these conversations about our views on these matters as I believe it makes us all a little more aware of specific things as we all share our views. Somewhere in all of these discussions throughout the various discussion boards and sits will be the answer.




The estimated worlds population is 7.7 BILLION people (2019).....not TRILLION...…That's a real big difference right there....I doubt the World could sustain 7.7 Trillion people !!

That doesn't really change anything other than the numbers of people who could die from the Virus

All the data and numbers are skewed.....No way anyone can know how many are infected and hence the actual Mortality rate is completely incorrect.

It is without a doubt a serious threat no matter what the worlds population is !

We are basically at war.....with an invisible enemy....and don't have many weapons to fight back....
 
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If I didn't know any better I would swear that this is a ploy to kill the Trump Economy right before the election so now people will have no reason to vote for him.


I find it hard to believe that this was intentional to hurt an american election when it is effecting the whole world. But then again that is just me, there are some conspiracy theories going around and some of them I do find comical. I am sure that killing off thousands of people all over the world are a result of trying to impact our election. I will give you this to ponder, the mortality rate of this is projected to be between 2.5 and 4%, the worlds population is in excess of 7.5 trillion people. If gone un-checked this single virus could result in a death toll of more than 300 million people. Not trying to use scare tactics, just simply stating the facts as they have been reported by numerous agencies. the problem I see here in America is the individuals with the it wont affect me attitude, with no understanding of the manner of how this is spread or the implications it will have on individuals they may not even know due to their selfish needs to maintain life as usual. An example of this is, I do not know the people who work in the grocery store personally, yet there is interaction with a few of them on each visit. I do not know all of the other people shopping at the same time, yet we are all in a confined space for the time we are in there. All it takes is one infected person and the risk to EVERYONE else who was there has just increased exponentially. I have my views on these things as everyone has their own and that is good that we all dont see things the same way, and I am thankful that we can have these conversations about our views on these matters as I believe it makes us all a little more aware of specific things as we all share our views. Somewhere in all of these discussions throughout the various discussion boards and sits will be the answer.




The estimated worlds population is 7.7 BILLION people (2019).....not TRILLION...…That's a real big difference right there....I doubt the World could sustain 7.7 Trillion people !!

That doesn't really change anything other than the numbers of people who could die from the Virus

All the data and numbers are skewed.....No way anyone can know how many are infected and hence the actual Mortality rate is completely incorrect.

It is without a doubt a serious threat no matter what the worlds population is !

We are basically at war.....with an invisible enemy....and don't have many weapons to fight back....


Sorry I did see that after I posted it. You are correct the exact mortality rate at this time is impossible to predict, but given the cases in other countries is all I am referring to. This single virus will cause alot of deaths as well as the deaths that regularly occur with other ailments such as the flu, influenza, COPD, heart failure and others. This is a serious deal and should be considered as such. Just think of the extended time off from racing as and extended off season and time to work on your cars and stuff.
 
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Everyone needs to see the big picture.
This is and will kill many businesses and financially ruin many individuals and families.
Several million people will be ruined within a few months.
This is NOT like the housing down turn that took years.

Local Connecticut hotels have already dismissed 11,000 workers.
Many small food places have closed for good.

You don't have to worry about the racers because many will pull the plug and never race again.

There will be NO MONEY anywhere.
People and businesses won't pay their rent, mortgages, electric, credit cards, etc. etc. because MOST live paycheck to paycheck.

This is going to effect EVERYONE very quickly.

They are saying July is the earliest we may see some light.
How many months can you go with ZERO income?
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Lets hope for the best and prepare for the worst as best as we can....

There will be great loses suffered by many for sure...
 
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instead of sending people money from the gov. that at best is only a token gesture. the gov. should pay to move as many industries back from china as possible back to the US. politicians should adopt the us vs. them mentality and take care of the USA. but they won't because they are in the Chinese $ pocket.

at this point I am very fortunate to work in the healthcare industry. we are getting overtime.

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instead of sending people money from the gov. that at best is only a token gesture. the gov. should pay to move as many industries back from china as possible back to the US. politicians should adopt the us vs. them mentality and take care of the USA. but they won't because they are in the Chinese $ pocket.

Good idea and term limits! I have never talked to anyone who is really against term limits for Congress.
at this point I am very fortunate to work in the healthcare industry. we are getting overtime.

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Glad you are ok and on the mend Bob!
Why do you think we are on the front side of this deal?

One thing for sure: China was at least reckless with this and at worst intentionally infected other countries. Our country needs to cut ties with that **** h0le regardless of how much it hurts. Many were critical of Trump when he played hardball with them. I was disappointed that he didn't go far enough.


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More good news.
Over 30,000 unemployment claims since Friday just in Connecticut.
It's coming hard and fast.
https://www.courant.com/busine...uacogzenm-story.html


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Glad you are ok and on the mend Bob!
Why do you think we are on the front side of this deal?

One thing for sure: China was at least reckless with this and at worst intentionally infected other countries. Our country needs to cut ties with that **** h0le regardless of how much it hurts. Many were critical of Trump when he played hardball with them. I was disappointed that he didn't go far enough.


What makes you think Trump played hardball with the chinese? Domestic United States manufacturing suffered paying the tariffs on commodities/inputs from china.

You wanna play hardball you don't penalize the inputs, you penalize the outputs like purchases of chinese garbaaaage at wally world mart.

I'd imagine the chinese were laughing.

https://youtu.be/mxAD_jTFm08


Laughing my ass. We collected boatloads of money, and most consumers saw NO price increases on stuff made in China. Who took it in the ass on that? China. They had no choice. Yes we had to pay our farmers. But even farmers didn't hurt significantly. Farmers all around me. Not one says they are struggling.


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Glad you are ok and on the mend Bob!
Why do you think we are on the front side of this deal?

One thing for sure: China was at least reckless with this and at worst intentionally infected other countries. Our country needs to cut ties with that **** h0le regardless of how much it hurts. Many were critical of Trump when he played hardball with them. I was disappointed that he didn't go far enough.


What makes you think Trump played hardball with the chinese? Domestic United States manufacturing suffered paying the tariffs on commodities/inputs from china.

You wanna play hardball you don't penalize the inputs, you penalize the outputs like purchases of chinese garbaaaage at wally world mart.

I'd imagine the chinese were laughing.

https://youtu.be/mxAD_jTFm08


Laughing my ass. We collected boatloads of money, and most consumers saw NO price increases on stuff made in China. Who took it in the ass on that? China. They had no choice. Yes we had to pay our farmers. But even farmers didn't hurt significantly. Farmers all around me. Not one says they are struggling.


If the intent is to inflict pain on the chinese in a trade war, the chinese pay the tariffs on outputs such as goods on the way to Wally World mart.

Not domestic US manufacturers inputs such as chinese steel and aluminum.

I don't know how to make this anymore easy to understand. It's common sense.
 
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A little info from an immunologist at Johns Hopkins University.


Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next."

Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now.

Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on.



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