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Bracket Talk Bracket Talk Forum General Discussion - by FTI Youngest winner everGo | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply | |
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And? Just another one who does not care what the rules are as long as they win. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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Agreed,rules is rules! Doing my part to raise the average IQ on this board | |||
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I'm gona get flamed but hell I'm used to it. Show me on the flyer where it says you have to be 16 to race. This wasn't a "hra" race. This was a track rental. Should it have been done? Probably not. I'd bet you over 1/2 there running 6.39 and faster weren't licensed or certed so should they be tossed if they won? Over 1/2 the people pissed about this are mad because a 14 year old did something they havent or cant do. Win on the big stage. Fire suit on (It's a 2 layer cause I go faster than 6.39 so you can't ban me). | |||
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I understand the outrage over a 14 year old competing on that stage, in that vehicle. It isn't normal, and by 'most' rules, isn't allowed. However, he was told that he could come race. No one lied or cheated their way into the event. It really is that simple. Why punish someone that was told it was ok to come to the event? If the _HRA rules were followed at this event, the event wouldn't have been possible. Do we 'just' pick the age rule and condemn those who didn't meet the age requirements? Or do we eliminate everyone that can't pass, for whatever reason? It was a judgement mistake and it has been corrected. No one needs to be banned, whipped, tarred or feathered. Lessons were learned and life moves on. SFG handled it well, and KC made history. End of story. Jared Pennington Coalburg Racing # 1X http://worldfootbrakechallenge.com The Sportsman Drag Racing Podcast with Luke and Jed | |||
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Perfectly said Jared....this should be the end of discussion. Mike Boehner | |||
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this is a very good point Blind. rules is rules so should every car not certed for their speed be tossed? haven't thought of that one. ep-like Jed stated. things have been corrected so it is water under the bridge | |||
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All cars in competition should meet the sanctioning bodies rules for the track. All drivers should be licensed and proper safety gear used. Chassis should be certified when and where required. Just because it's a track rental, we throw the rulebook out the window? I guess the only rules are those posted on the flyer, everything else is legal then. 72 Nova "Hooptie" | |||
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I can see an "Enhanced" version of Rules and regulations coming down the pipe from all the sanctioning bodies due to this. Don't think for one minute it doesn't have repercussions. They will cover their rear at any cost.These sanctioning bodies are in in business to generate revenue. Nothing else. When there is an risk liability exposure like this that occurred,It's called Care,Custody and control in commercial lines. Say now for example *** sanctioning body now will impose a fine under contract of 25K for a penalty like this. Case in point. Look at the case of the Driver that was fined what 5-10K at one of the events and a year or two suspension for reckless driving in the pits with the golf cart They don't put up with this ***.This basically exposed their liability and risk.This message has been edited. Last edited by: TD3550, | |||
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Exactly. Look for insurance costs to rise,leading to higher entry fees for EVERYONE that races at a sanctioned track. | |||
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Yes Hooptie you are correct, the only rules are those posted on the flyer. "All rules, regulations, & scheduling are subject to change out of discretion of SFG Promotions, inc." | |||
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Can you elaborate? Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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A large percentage of the racers at these events fall outside of the sanctioning body rules. Improper driver safety equipment, no _HRA License, out of date chassis tag (or no tag at all), missing or out of date mechanical safety equipment, etc. I believe what Jed is trying to say is that if the Sanctioning Body rules are followed then these races wont happen at sanctioned facilities. And if we are being honest, then we know that all the rules are not followed.... so why is everyone so concerned with this rule and trying to suspend the guy for the infraction? Mikey | |||
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I think you understand what I'm saying but I'll play along. If every car at the event (or most events), had to have all safety gear up to date, parachutes, chassis certs etc, VERY few cars would be allowed to compete. It isn't realistic to be able to pay those kinds of purses, with those kinds of entry fees, and hold every racer to the gold standard of the _HRA. Obviously, racers need to live up to a safety standard consistent with our market's general rules, but checking dates and fine details is not going to work out well for the people putting up 100's of thousands of dollars for racers to compete to win.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Jared, Jared Pennington Coalburg Racing # 1X http://worldfootbrakechallenge.com The Sportsman Drag Racing Podcast with Luke and Jed | |||
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What are you guys talking about? NHRA and IHRA already have a minimum age requirement. And you have to have a competition license for anything quicker than 9.99. Yes this kid can wheel a race car. But when and where do you draw the line? This old school run what you brung no tech bull crap needs to stop. These big money races are nothing more than professional racing with a sportsman label attached to it. A few of these races pay more than a top fuel, funnycar and prostock title combined. And another thing. How was this kid allowed to use another car when his was broken. If you can’t fix the car you are racing to make the call for the next round you should be done period. | |||
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Moving forward what do you suggest we have as far as tech? | |||
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Wear a helmet and have an engine diaper. Let's go race. (try not to drive the finish line like a madman but a little tire smoke never hurt anyone) | |||
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I don't think tech needs to change very much at these big buck races. Maybe a more clearly defined set of rules is more important. I truly believe that will happen for the major events, as a result of a situation like this, which is a good thing. Jared Pennington Coalburg Racing # 1X http://worldfootbrakechallenge.com The Sportsman Drag Racing Podcast with Luke and Jed | |||
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My opinion is that the point missed by many in all of this is not whether or not this one particular kid is capable of driving safely at the ET and speed run daily by many of us. It's that it opens the door for anyone his age or younger that may not be capable. Where do you draw the line now if you are putting on an event like this? 12 years old? There had been a line drawn in the sand and it was rubbed out in this case so a new line has to be established. Where is that line and it should be stated as it was before. So many took it personal and came out in support of this kid but it is less about him than the age flood gate it opens. Just a thought. Curtis ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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Personally I think young kids are more capable than modern society gives them credit for. Of course not all 14 year olds are the same in their ability. If someones son or daughter has been competing in Jr's for some years like from age 8-13 then establishing a way for them to get a competition license at 14 doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Hell I had zero experience at 17 and jumped in a 7.00 door Car and struggled to even do a burnout. You could make an argument that a 14 year old with 5 years of experience would have been more qualified than myself at that point. | |||
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