I can see it. Koski or Stanman sitting there in their den or living room just a balling with that guy.

Beck is so much of a turd, he thinks everyone thinks he is serious with that put on crap.

What I have a hard time with is how grown, though nominally educated, people can get so encapsulated in what guys like Beck have to say.

The followers of Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, and the like offer no solutions to any problem facing this country. They have an infinitely easy job. Just talk about Obama and how he is all wrong. Just as the TEA party had a really easy time running for office. Just talk about how wrong Obama is. No talk of how to make anything better, just run against Obama.

I suppose the country was a bowl of cherries before Obama got elected. No problems whatsoever. Everything was just peachy.

Even the ones who subscribe to listening to these "entertainers" seemingly do not have a mind of their own. All they do is talk about Obama.

Nearly every state in the Union is having financial difficulty. Many are near bankruptcy if not there already. The economy is in shambles. Unemployment is rampant. How did this happen? Did Obama cause this?

I don't think he did. I also don't think ther have been any real attempts by EITHER side to do anything about it. Why isn't this discussed? It isn't discussed because it is hard. It is easy just to flap a lip about all that is wrong, but not so easy to try to cure the problem.

Talk radio has done irreparable harm to this country. It has divided this country and made dopes of many. While these talk radio personalities vacation in exotic lands and spend their money I suppose they laugh to themselves at how dumb people are to listen to them.

It is sad.

You leftists are beyond hope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by BD:
The followers of Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, and the like offer no solutions to any problem facing this country. They have an infinitely easy job. Just talk about Obama and how he is all wrong. Just as the TEA party had a really easy time running for office. Just talk about how wrong Obama is. No talk of how to make anything better, just run against Obama.

I suppose the country was a bowl of cherries before Obama got elected. No problems whatsoever. Everything was just peachy.

Even the ones who subscribe to listening to these "entertainers" seemingly do not have a mind of their own. All they do is talk about Obama.

Nearly every state in the Union is having financial difficulty. Many are near bankruptcy if not there already. The economy is in shambles. Unemployment is rampant. How did this happen? Did Obama cause this?

I don't think he did. I also don't think ther have been any real attempts by EITHER side to do anything about it. Why isn't this discussed? It isn't discussed because it is hard. It is easy just to flap a lip about all that is wrong, but not so easy to try to cure the problem.

Talk radio has done irreparable harm to this country. It has divided this country and made dopes of many. While these talk radio personalities vacation in exotic lands and spend their money I suppose they laugh to themselves at how dumb people are to listen to them.

It is sad.

I notice you failed to mention the liberals, and followers of Olberman, Maddow, Soro's, Code Pink, et al..

Haven't noticed any solutions except spend or take and give from any of them. Do you support their agenda? Just asking..

If you do not listen to Beck, Rush and all those you dislike how do you know a solution isn't in there??

You are right in they don't necessisarily provide solutions, but if they point out what is wrong then suddenly voters voice their concerns and get changes that way.

Your right Nobama isn't to blame "completely" for our current situation. But I'll submit he hasn't done much if anything to prevent it from worsening. It's easy to take the high ground when his vote was "present" for the couple of years he held office..

So why is it an entertainers fault when the population are shown something that's not right?? Must be because of the way they presented it??

Gotta go...Rush is on..

Dave

Again no solutions, just bull.

How about the $2,500,000,000,000.00 the Republican congress just announced they intend to cut spending in the next decade?
This is inspired by the Taxed Enough Already movement that you leftists have been bashing from day one! Included are any number of useless programs that should never have been implemented!
Admittedly this isn't a whole lot BUT listen to your icon "imam 0-bomb" and the socialist dumkies screech, you'll think the world is ending!

PREDICTION! By the time you lefties get bamboozled by the left-wing lame stream moron nedia you'll be argueing that many of the tax payer wasting programs destined for the trash bin are NECESSARY!

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What are they going to cut?

You'll have to go to an evil fair and balanced news site to find the list, none of the left-wing lame stream moron media sites will be publizing the list!

It will never happen but here are the proposed cuts..

Here is the full list of cuts:

Additional Program Eliminations/Spending Reforms

Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy. $445 million annual savings.

Save America's Treasures Program. $25 million annual savings.

International Fund for Ireland. $17 million annual savings.

Legal Services Corporation. $420 million annual savings.

National Endowment for the Arts. $167.5 million annual savings.

National Endowment for the Humanities. $167.5 million annual savings.

Hope VI Program. $250 million annual savings.

Amtrak Subsidies. $1.565 billion annual savings.

Eliminate duplicative education programs. H.R. 2274 (in last Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3 billion annually.

U.S. Trade Development Agency. $55 million annual savings.

Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy. $20 million annual savings.

Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding. $47 million annual savings.

John C. Stennis Center Subsidy. $430,000 annual savings.

Community Development Fund. $4.5 billion annual savings.

Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid. $24 million annual savings.

Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half. $7.5 billion annual savings.

Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20%. $600 million annual savings.

Essential Air Service. $150 million annual savings.

Technology Innovation Program. $70 million annual savings.

Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program. $125 million annual savings.

Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization. $530 million annual savings.

Beach Replenishment. $95 million annual savings.

New Starts Transit. $2 billion annual savings.

Exchange Programs for Alaska, Natives Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts. $9 million annual savings.

Intercity and High Speed Rail Grants. $2.5 billion annual savings.

Title X Family Planning. $318 million annual savings.

Appalachian Regional Commission. $76 million annual savings.

Economic Development Administration. $293 million annual savings.

Programs under the National and Community Services Act. $1.15 billion annual savings.

Applied Research at Department of Energy. $1.27 billion annual savings.

FreedomCAR and Fuel Partnership. $200 million annual savings.

Energy Star Program. $52 million annual savings.

Economic Assistance to Egypt. $250 million annually.

U.S. Agency for International Development. $1.39 billion annual savings.

General Assistance to District of Columbia. $210 million annual savings.

Subsidy for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority. $150 million annual savings.

Presidential Campaign Fund. $775 million savings over ten years.

No funding for federal office space acquisition. $864 million annual savings.

End prohibitions on competitive sourcing of government services.

Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act. More than $1 billion annually.

IRS Direct Deposit: Require the IRS to deposit fees for some services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers) to the Treasury, instead of allowing it to remain as part of its budget. $1.8 billion savings over ten years.

Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees. $1 billion total savings.

Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees. $1.2 billion savings over ten years.

Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of. $15 billion total savings.

Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.

Eliminate Mohair Subsidies. $1 million annual savings.

Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. $12.5 million annual savings.

Eliminate Market Access Program. $200 million annual savings.

USDA Sugar Program. $14 million annual savings.

Subsidy to Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). $93 million annual savings.

Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program. $56.2 million annual savings.

Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs. $900 million savings.

Ready to Learn TV Program. $27 million savings.

HUD Ph.D. Program.

Deficit Reduction Check-Off Act.

TOTAL SAVINGS: $2.5 Trillion over Ten Years


Dave

DC1: Almost forgot...FOR BOB

I think this is a great list... to start!!

I'd add the elimination of the Departments of Education, Agriculture, and National Endowment of Arts too.

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Applied Research at Department of Energy. $1.27 billion annual savings.

I don't know that I'd support this reduction. I view the role of the DOE as part of national security. Federally funded research into advanced technologies is what has kept the US at the forefront in most instances.

Without a doubt the money there is actually wasted. With government strings attached I'd wager there is a narrow list of the types of energy that can be explored!

Bill,

DOE's role is far more expansive than just energy. It encompasses defense (weaponry & material sciences), communications, computing, and other technologies vital to national security.

It was DOE through the National Labs that developed the Internet, not Al Gore. LOL

There are definitely areas within it's budget that could be trimmed from the bottom line... like funding for "climate change" research.

I'd agree Stanman if they could restrict themselves to what they are supposed to do.. But how much have we spent and we are still dependent on foriegn oil??

I say dismantle it and start over with something that keeps them in their lane doing "only" what they are designed for..

Are they now a bank that guarentee's loans??

http://www.energy.gov/news/9991.htm

http://www.energy.gov/news/9989.htm

Another place where the government is like the camel. Once he get's his nose under the tent, there's no keeping him out..

I would support endorsement and a guarentee to buy..When it's a proven product. But I would fear the same thing happening like the solar energy business that we gave funding to and then they closed the place down because they had run out of our money..

If it's such a good idea then business investors will jump all over it..

Dave

Are you referring to the solar manufacturer in Massachusetts that got $58,000,000.00 of Massachusetts tax payers money?
They pissed the money away, closed the plant and put their employees out on the street!
The hits keep coming, saw today where Ford Credit is closing their Henderson office here and putting 200 employees out on the street!

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Originally posted by Bill Koski:
Are you referring to the solar manufacturer in Massachusetts that got $58,000,000.00 of Massachusetts tax payers money?
They pissed the money away, closed the plant and put their employees out on the street!
The hits keep coming, saw today where Ford Credit is closing their Henderson office here and putting 200 employees out on the street!

That would be the one..

That's why I disagree with using taxpayer money to fund this stuff.. If it was viable and proven to work. Then no public money should be needed. Risk your own money, or take out a loan with collateral.
Those evil tax incentives could even be used to make the investment even more palatable..

I don't deny the use of tax monies for R&D if it is in the nations interest. But there needs to be strict oversite and accounting. Which never happens..


Dave

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Originally posted by stanman:
I think this is a great list... to start!!

I'd add the elimination of the Departments of Education, Agriculture, and National Endowment of Arts too.

quote:

Applied Research at Department of Energy. $1.27 billion annual savings.

I
don't know that I'd support this reduction. I
view the role of the DOE as part of national
security. Federally funded research into
advanced technologies is what has kept the US
at the forefront in most instances.

So do away with the agriculture department but keep something that helps your industry? We do not need farming but keep the nukes running?

Typical. Cut everything but me.

Do you have a clue of what all the USDA even does?

Apparently not. The USDA does much more than dole out farm subsidy checks.

Yeah. They even have an arm that does residential mortgages!
WHY???????????????????????????