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The core Conservative beliefs can be summed up in one statement: Strict adherence to the Constitution as it is written, not as it is interpreted by any court.

If our elected officials and the Federal Government would abide by the covenant of the Constitution all the rest of the nonsense would take care of itself. The notion that the Constitution is to be interpreted based on the times is complete and utter BULLSHIITE!!! It that way of thinking that has been destroying our country from within for the last century!!!

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I have never posted in this forum before now. So I will make it brief.

Greg Stanley is DEAD ON with the above.

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Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
I have asked this on other boards and will here as well...

Can anyone name me one instance where a Fox News newscast was biased?....remember, Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck arenotnewscasts, they are political opinion shows same as Olberman, Stewart, Maher, etc...

I don't think it's a fair comparison because the likes of Maher, Stewart and Colbert are comedy shows and never claim to be a news network nor do they claim to be fair and balanced.

So are olberman, matthews and madcow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Jeremy J.:

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Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
I have asked this on other boards and will here as well...

Can anyone name me one instance where a Fox News newscast was biased?....remember, Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck arenotnewscasts, they are political opinion shows same as Olberman, Stewart, Maher, etc...

I don't think it's a fair comparison because the likes of Maher, Stewart and Colbert are comedy shows and never claim to be a news network nor do they claim to be fair and balanced.

What about MSNBC or CNN or CNBC?...they all have political opinion shows and all claim to be news networks...

I still have never gotten one single instance showing any Fox newscast to be anything but unbiased and, yes, fair and balanced...

I want to compare apples to apples..show me where Fox is biased in a newscast...don't tell me how Beck or Hannity are biased...

FOX news reports only news stories that benefit the right wing. Same as the others that only report news stories that benefit the left wing. I rarely watch any of these networks on purpose except for Morning Joe. It nauseating watching all of them push their agenda. You want to compare apples to apples so I pointed out that using Maher, Stewart and Colbert...... well they are oranges. They have nothing to do with this. Sometimes they bring up good points, but they do comedy. I watch Colbert, Stewart and Maher all the time, but mostly for the comedy. Between hearing all the BS coming from the "news" networks and seeing all the BS in the political sections of drag race forums, I'd rather watch these comedy shows later at night to get away from the hostility and laugh a little.

Hard to laugh at whats happening to our great country. Its way to important this time around!

Too many idiots in every level of governmnet. Local, State, Federal. For the most part they are too lazy to work in the private sector, if not too dumb. They can find their way in government, surrounded by ever more dumb co-workers and dumb bosses.

Just think. They give performance awards to these dunces for doing their jobs. I would think that they should do their jobs for what their salary is, and the performance award would be getting to keep their chickenshyt job if they do their job.

You can see evidence of this among some posters on this website.

This is one of the bad things happening/happened to our country.

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Originally posted by stanman:

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Originally posted by The Bozman: Core conservative beliefs in the 21st century include reduced government regulation of business and banking, resistance to world government and to (resistance to) environmentalism, support for Israel and for American military intervention overseas, opposition to abortion and homosexuality, support for Christian education in the public schools, support for the right to bear arms, securing the U.S borders and strict enforcement of the law, and a sharp reduction in taxes.

I'm sorry, but those items I've emboldened above have nothing to do with core Conservative beliefs!!

The core Conservative beliefs can be summed up in one statement: Strict adherence to the Constitution as it is written, not as it is interpreted by any court.

If our elected officials and the Federal Government would abide by the covenant of the Constitution all the rest of the nonsense would take care of itself. The notion that the Constitution is to be interpreted based on the times is complete and utter BULLSHIITE!!! It that way of thinking that has been destroying our country from within for the last century!!!

Greg,
I agree with you on multiple points and that is the fact that the core constitution is not being adhered to. I also find it funny that it is being 'interpreted' by both sides. I gave a definition of the 21st century conservative as it describes most republicans in todays world. It was not meant to be a definition of a constitutionalist or the original definition of conservatism. The second half of the explanation gave a little historical lesson on what has changed over the years:

Conservatism lost its predominantly agrarian and semifeudal bias, and accepted democratic suffrage, advocated economic laissez-faire, in economics and politics, doctrine that an economic system functions best when there is no interference by government. It is based on the belief that the natural economic order tends, when undisturbed by artificial stimulus and opposed extension of the welfare state. This form of conservatism, which is best seen in highly industrialized nations, was exemplified by President Reagan Reagan in the United States and Prime Minister Thatcher in Great Britain. It has been flexible and receptive to moderate change, favors the maintenance of order on social issues, and actively supports deregulation and privatization in the economic sphere. Conservatism should be distinguished both from a reactionary desire for the past and the radical right-wing ideology of fascism (fascism , totalitarian philosophy of government that glorifies the state and nation and assigns to the state control over every aspect of national life. The name was first used by the party started by Benito Mussolini, who ruled Italy from 1922 until the Italian) and National Socialism.

You so called chest beating conservatives lost all your Constitutional beliefs and any credibility when you grabbed dumbya's nuts and supported a war that was un-Constitutional.


A "real" conserv would have been against the wars of Iraq and Afghan.

Some throw out the argument that Constitutional Amendments have somehow thrown the government train off the tracks. Do these same people realize that being able to amend the Constitution is one of the beauties of the document? It has been modified many times, and was early on in the history of the U.S. by the same people who created our government in the first place.

Amendments to the Constitution

Usually those who argue against amending the Constitution would be the first to argue for amendments, if it suited their purpose.

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Originally posted by BD:
Some throw out the argument that Constitutional Amendments have somehow thrown the government train off the tracks. Do these same people realize that being able to amend the Constitution is one of the beauties of the document? It has been modified many times, and was early on in the history of the U.S. by the same people who created our government in the first place.

Amendments to the Constitution

Usually those who argue against amending the Constitution would be the first to argue for amendments, if it suited their purpose.

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I have no problems with amending the constitution..
If it is done the correct way... Judicial activism is not the correct way. Neither is writing laws to change it without debate and 3/4 of the state legislatures approval..

Dave

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Originally posted by Bob H:
You so called chest beating conservatives lost all your Constitutional beliefs and any credibility when you grabbed dumbya's nuts and supported a war that was un-Constitutional.


A "real" conserv would have been against the wars of Iraq and Afghan.

Boob,
You can't even speak, you talk about being on someones nuts and all are speaking on what the actual beliefs. You can't even articulate what is happening within the organizations you support.

Cov,
You are dead on, go through the process. It is amazing that now it is just the justices that make those changes by "interpretation". It is what it is.

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Originally posted by Jeremy J.:
FOX news reports only news stories that benefit the right wing. Same as the others that only report news stories that benefit the left wing. I rarely watch any of these networks on purpose except for Morning Joe. It nauseating watching all of them push their agenda. You want to compare apples to apples so I pointed out that using Maher, Stewart and Colbert...... well they are oranges. They have nothing to do with this. Sometimes they bring up good points, but they do comedy. I watch Colbert, Stewart and Maher all the time, but mostly for the comedy. Between hearing all the BS coming from the "news" networks and seeing all the BS in the political sections of drag race forums, I'd rather watch these comedy shows later at night to get away from the hostility and laugh a little.

I did not bring up those folks...my point was and is that all of that type are not newscasters...you can call them comedians if you like but that is subjective...

I will ask one last time...show me one instance of a Fox newscast that is biased...or....show me one instance of Fox news skipping any news story that favors the left or pushing a story that favors the right...

It is real easy to throw out your opinion about Fox but you know what opinions are...if you have no facts then just admit this is your personal opinion and be done with it...

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Originally posted by fuzzy dice:


I did not bring up those folks...my point was and is that all of that type are not newscasters...you can call them comedians if you like but that is subjective...

Yes, you did................ Originally posted by fuzzy dice: Can anyone name me one instance where a Fox News newscast was biased?....remember, Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck are not newscasts, they are political opinion shows same as Olberman, Stewart, Maher, etc...

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Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
I will ask one last time...show me one instance of a Fox newscast that is biased...or....show me one instance of Fox news skipping any news story that favors the left or pushing a story that favors the right...

You mean like the story they ignored that is the topic of this thread? Or how about the one where their second largest share holder is helping to fund the mosque in NYC? Boy, they sure got quiet on that one after they realized what they did.

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Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
It is real easy to throw out your opinion about Fox but you know what opinions are...if you have no facts then just admit this is your personal opinion and be done with it...

If you hadn't noticed, I'm not supporting anybody in this argument. If you hadn't noticed I criticized the left wing media for being guilty of the exact same thing. But, you keep on implying that I'm doing otherwise.............

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Originally posted by Bob H:
You so called chest beating conservatives lost all your Constitutional beliefs and any credibility when you grabbed dumbya's nuts and supported a war that was un-Constitutional.


A "real" conserv would have been against the wars of Iraq and Afghan.

Here is the part I dont get.
Democrats Voted for and Funded the war.
Many other countries supported the war.
I was all for killing Saddam,But not for rebuilding Iraq etc.
I really didnt want the war,Just Bomb them back into the stone age.
Take the oil we have never got and that would be that.

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The left-wing lame stream moron media is experiencing orgasms because "imam 0-bomb" is rapist-i-zing his regime!
Another rapist retread ex-Wall Streeter from chi-town joins the cabal!
Wonder how "imam" is taking this since "imam" fantasizes that he is the savior "messiah" and now he is having to be bailed out??????????????????

Left-wing lame stream moron media outlet abc news is now reporting, "Governor Palin has once again found a way to become part of the story?"
This is so far over the top it's idiotic! After Governor Palin is accused of everything but buying and loading the gun for the lunatic she responds with a very intelligent to the point message and the left-wing lame stream moron media declares, "she has found a way to become part of the story?"
The left-wing lame stream moron media made her part of the story 15 seconds after the echo of the gunshots died!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!