Here is a really good read, pay particular attention to the citations at the bottom.

Climate Change

Not for the duped boobs, you are hopelessly over the cliff!
One of the original hoaxers, latif, proves how corrupt the hoaxers alleged (science?) is!
I posted his bogus claim that he'd discovered how to measure ocean temperatures 3,000 feet below the surface and was able to immediately determine that the OCEANS were going to be responsible for a 20-30 year cooling period.
The hoaxers desparately have to have a reason for the earth not warming, cooling in fact!
To make this claim honestly he would have to have ocean temperature data for at least a couple of earth's warming and cooling cycles AS ANYBODY WITH AN IOTA OF ANALYTICAL ABILITY WOULD IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZE!

Now the IPCC, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, has done a public mea culpa about the Himalayan glaciers.
Who realizes the boobs that foisted this bogus data on the world received a Nobel Prize for this bull shyt in 2007???????????????????? Kinda explains how "STONER BARRY's" Nobel prize was awarded doesn't it??????????????????
SO, the hoaxers have run with this hoax for going on three years trying to panic people that rely on the runoff from the Himalayan Glaciers for water during the dry season, WHY???????????????????

Bill, there are two examples of how much research the Nobel Peace Prize panel does on the qualifications of the nominees. The Peace Prize used to have meaning, now it is a joke.

What has obama done with the money he won? Did he not promise to donate it to a charity? I wonder if he donated it to the muslums? Anybody know??

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped...out-cold-snaps-.html

Why climate change spurs whining about cold snaps

By Patrick J. Michaels

Global warming has many good and bad effects, but one that is becoming especially clear is that it makes us all weenies when it comes to colder weather.

You might have noticed that this winter is cold. OK. But it's not nearly as nasty as, say, the late 1970s, which brought the three coldest consecutive U.S. winters in the entire record (which started in 1895). The last winter of any consequence was 2000-01, but that was only the 26th coldest. Where this one will wind up no one can say, but I would be surprised if it even gets to the bottom 20.

Blame global warming

So why all the bellyaching? Well, it turns out you can blame your current discomfort on global warming. Greenhouse gases, like carbon dioxide and methane, warm up winters more than summers. In other words, since the second warming of the 20th century began more than 30 years ago, it's the coldest days of the winter that have warmed up more than any others — and our bodies adapted. So when a truly cold winter shows up, people are physiologically and psychologically shocked.

The coldest temperatures in the Lower 48 are caused by big high pressure systems that form in northwestern North America or (rarely) Siberia. They are blown southward by unusual waves in the jet stream that should become less common in a warmer world. As these are the systems most susceptible to greenhouse warming, extreme cold "outbreaks," like the two we have seen this January, should become more moderate and less frequent.

There are real consequences when certain extreme types of weather become rarer, or when they visit places where they are very uncommon: Besides making people uncomfortable, they tend to kill. But as luck would have it, this effect has been studied more for heat waves than it has for cold.

The U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which purports to be the prime authority on all things climatic, has maintained for years that global warming's more frequent heat waves will kill increasing numbers of city dwellers. If so, we should be seeing more headlines of heat-related deaths in urban areas. Indeed, cities laden with brick and concrete warm up on their own, global warming or not.

In reality, as heat waves become more frequent, fewer people die in them because they adapt. There's hardly any heat-related mortality in Tampa or Phoenix (despite large populations of retirees) because heat waves are common. The only large U.S. city that shows a recent spike in heat-related mortality is Seattle, because heat is rare there.

What about cold spells?

But virtually nowhere is the U.N. on record that the same phenomenon holds true for cold. The great cold wave of Christmas 1983 killed dozens in South Carolina, where cold is rare, but hardly anyone in Chicago, where everyone expects minus-20 wind chills. This winter in northern India, more than 300 deaths have been attributed to "intense cold" — even though the lowest recorded temperature in the state having the most deaths was 39 degrees.

All this underscores the reality that "heat" and "cold," while having real and sometimes dire consequences, are largely a matter of perception. For those of us fortunate enough to have access to adequate clothing and shelter, this winter merely holds the lesson that sometimes, we need to stop complaining about the weather and just deal with it.

Patrick J. Michaels is a senior fellow in environmental studies at the Cato Institute and co-author of Climate of Extremes: Global Warming Science They Don't Want You to Know.

Sure is warm in SoFL today isn't it Muggs and Translady?

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Originally posted by Jeremy J.:
Sure is warm in SoFL today isn't it Muggs and Translady?

I was patching roof, was nice with the breeze.

Bullsh1t Billy spewed this forth a while ago;

"Not for the duped boobs, you are hopelessly over the cliff!
One of the original hoaxers, latif, proves how corrupt the hoaxers alleged (science?) is!
I posted his bogus claim that he’d discovered how to measure ocean temperatures 3,000 feet below the surface and was able to immediately determine that the OCEANS were going to be responsible for a 20-30 year cooling period.
The hoaxers desparately have to have a reason for the earth not warming, cooling in fact!
To make this claim honestly he would have to have ocean temperature data for at least a couple of earth’s warming and cooling cycles AS ANYBODY WITH AN IOTA OF ANALYTICAL ABILITY WOULD IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZE!"

Well, BS Billy is getting his stupid as a stump act on again.

Irrespective of whether Dr. Latif has or has not discovered (new ways?) of how to measure ocean temps at 3000’ depths or not, science has been doing just that, for centuries! Guess what, even our old friend and founding father Benjamin Franklin was taking measurements of ocean temps and currents way the he11 back when he was shuttling back and forth between the Americas and France and England, he was quite the Oceanographer back in the middle to late 1700’s. We also have records from the voyages of Ferdinand Magellan, he wasn’t just some pottser driving his boat around the world so that he could say he did it. As well as our old friend Charles Darwin, during his voyage on the HMS Beagle made many observations of the ocean, including temperature and salinity at various depths, as well as current direction and speed.

As to ancient ocean temperatures, we have the TEX86 methodologies. The TEX86 is a paleothermometer through which ancient seawater temperatures of up to 120 My ago can be reconstructed. It is based on the relative distribution of glycerol dibiphytanyl glycerol tetraethers as measured by high-performance liquid chromatography/atmospheric pressure chemical ionization-mass spectrometry (HPLC/APCI-MS). The aim of this study was to examine and improve several analytical aspects in the determination of this important proxy in environmental matrices. Comparison of TEX86 analysis using single ion mode (SIM) and mass scanning (m/z 950 to 1450) detection, respectively, revealed that SIM is up to 2 orders of magnitude more sensitive and that the TEX86 can be determined with a reproducibility of ±0.004 or ±0.3 °C using this method. Comparison of TEX86 values obtained with two different HPLC/APCI-MS set-ups revealed no significant differences. In addition, analysis of TEX86 of extracts obtained by Soxhlet, ultrasonic, and accelerated high-pressure extraction techniques also showed no significant differences between the methods. Our results suggest that TEX86 analysis by HPLC/APCI-MS is robust and can be determined with analytical errors comparable to those of other temperature proxies.

Then of course we currently have the Global Ocean Observing System, GOOS, which is a clearinghouse for worldwide oceanic measurements, comprised of a multitude of different databases. Further and more specifically, we have the Argo system, Argo is a global array of more than 3,000 free-drifting profiling floats that measures the temperature and salinity of the upper 2000 m of the ocean. This allows, for the first time, continuous monitoring of the temperature, salinity, and velocity of the upper ocean, with all data being relayed and made publicly available within hours after collection.

http://www.ioc-goos.org/
http://www.argo.ucsd.edu/
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ac062339v
http://www.sciencedirect.com/s...c171a649406243ebf1fd
http://www.onderzoekinformatie...nderzoek/OND1297859/

Oh and here is where all of the ARGO devices are today.



So why don't you stop listening to the ravings of the twin tards Beck and Hannity, between you and those two, the three of you give stupid a bad name. The only hoax in climate science is that you have a brain.

All the huffin' an puffin' doesn't change the fact that hoaxer latif claims HE discovered how to measure these ocean temperatures and immediately determined the OCEANS were going to cause 20-30 years of cooling!
How convenient being the hoaxers desparately have to explain the lack of global warming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Typical hoaxer non-science from day one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In case you lefties missed it even the dastrdly un is now backing off of their aims!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Jeremy J.:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped...out-cold-snaps-.html

Why climate change spurs whining about cold snaps

By Patrick J. Michaels

Global warming has many good and bad effects, but one that is becoming especially clear is that it makes us all weenies when it comes to colder weather.

You might have noticed that this winter is cold. OK. But it's not nearly as nasty as, say, the late 1970s, which brought the three coldest consecutive U.S. winters in the entire record (which started in 1895). The last winter of any consequence was 2000-01, but that was only the 26th coldest. Where this one will wind up no one can say, but I would be surprised if it even gets to the bottom 20.

Blame global warming

So why all the bellyaching? Well, it turns out you can blame your current discomfort on global warming. Greenhouse gases, like carbon dioxide and methane, warm up winters more than summers. In other words, since the second warming of the 20th century began more than 30 years ago, it's the coldest days of the winter that have warmed up more than any others — and our bodies adapted. So when a truly cold winter shows up, people are physiologically and psychologically shocked.

The coldest temperatures in the Lower 48 are caused by big high pressure systems that form in northwestern North America or (rarely) Siberia. They are blown southward by unusual waves in the jet stream that should become less common in a warmer world. As these are the systems most susceptible to greenhouse warming, extreme cold "outbreaks," like the two we have seen this January, should become more moderate and less frequent.

There are real consequences when certain extreme types of weather become rarer, or when they visit places where they are very uncommon: Besides making people uncomfortable, they tend to kill. But as luck would have it, this effect has been studied more for heat waves than it has for cold.

The U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which purports to be the prime authority on all things climatic, has maintained for years that global warming's more frequent heat waves will kill increasing numbers of city dwellers. If so, we should be seeing more headlines of heat-related deaths in urban areas. Indeed, cities laden with brick and concrete warm up on their own, global warming or not.

In reality, as heat waves become more frequent, fewer people die in them because they adapt. There's hardly any heat-related mortality in Tampa or Phoenix (despite large populations of retirees) because heat waves are common. The only large U.S. city that shows a recent spike in heat-related mortality is Seattle, because heat is rare there.

What about cold spells?

But virtually nowhere is the U.N. on record that the same phenomenon holds true for cold. The great cold wave of Christmas 1983 killed dozens in South Carolina, where cold is rare, but hardly anyone in Chicago, where everyone expects minus-20 wind chills. This winter in northern India, more than 300 deaths have been attributed to "intense cold" — even though the lowest recorded temperature in the state having the most deaths was 39 degrees.

All this underscores the reality that "heat" and "cold," while having real and sometimes dire consequences, are largely a matter of perception. For those of us fortunate enough to have access to adequate clothing and shelter, this winter merely holds the lesson that sometimes, we need to stop complaining about the weather and just deal with it.

Patrick J. Michaels is a senior fellow in environmental studies at the Cato Institute and co-author of Climate of Extremes: Global Warming Science They Don't Want You to Know.

Patrick Michaels, a global warming skeptic and scholar at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, called on the head of the IPCC, Rajendra Pachauri, to resign.

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Originally posted by Trans Lady:



Patrick Michaels, a global warming skeptic and scholar at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, called on the head of the IPCC, Rajendra Pachauri, to resign.

Couldn't address the rest of it could you?

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Originally posted by Bill Koski:
All the huffin' an puffin' doesn't change the fact that hoaxer latif claims HE discovered how to measure these ocean temperatures and immediately determined the OCEANS were going to cause 20-30 years of cooling!
How convenient being the hoaxers desparately have to explain the lack of global warming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Typical hoaxer non-science from day one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In case you lefties missed it even the dastrdly un is now backing off of their aims!!!!!!!!!!!

The point is Stumpy, all we have around here, so far, is you blowing your gums that someone, who ever that might be, said Latif has or maybe has not done something with regard to ocean temps at 3000’ depth, but no links to the supposed research by Latif for anyone here to see what it’s all about.

So can you provide a link to a paper in “Nature” or “The Journal of Oceanography” or some other Science journal that explains your supposed problem with what ever the he11 it is you got a hard on about in Latif’s ocean temp measurements over. I am sorry I forgot they are all in on the Global Hoax on Climate Change, isn’t that right Stumpy?

Or is it something you read in the Daily Mail, or heard from the twin tards Hanidy or Beck or someone equally ratings driven, you know the one’s that act like sh1t flinging chimps, basically the more stupid the stuff we say the better our ratings are, don’t make a wit of difference if its right or wrong, in fact wrong is probably better as that stirs the sh1t more effectively.

Oh that’s right I forgot, you’re to damn lazy to read actually science, from the big boy journals, they use big words you have proven you don’t understand, or care to, and if it’s longer than three or four sentences it’s well beyond your p1ss ant like attention span. He11 70 or 80 pages of real science might mean taking a few days to read, much less understand, yeah I know good luck with that, right. He11 you might miss an episode of science for the mentally diminished by Beck or Hanity, sky fairy forbid!

Oh, I almost forgot, I heard that your subscription to the National Enquirer is about to expire, better send them a check soon, wouldn’t want to miss anything about the space aliens, damn them aliens wherever they come from, right, I assume you're worried about those kind as well, or the latest sighting of jesus on moldy toasted cheese sandwich, now would you. I hear there is a good one at auction on ebay right now, the current bid is only $1800, better swing by and check it out soon. Maybe you could glue it to the dash board of that U/S car that has been making all the waves lately, bet you could pick up a tenth or two, you know get that whole jesus is my co-pilot thing going for you. I don't know the whole story, but I hear tell you might need a miracle to win in that thing.

Do I detect bitterness in your blogs Larry. Are you upset now that the states are turning against your idol, do nothing Obsama, Pelosi and Reid..
Are you jealous of U/Stocks, build one then.

LMAO

Larry said;

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I don't know the whole story

A true statement! Nice of you to be honest and say that!

Yesterday I heard somebody say, "once you're forced to resort to name-calling you've lost the arguement!"
Seems to fit this situation doesn't it?

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Originally posted by Bill Koski:
Yesterday I heard somebody say, "once you're forced to resort to name-calling you've lost the arguement!"
Seems to fit this situation doesn't it?

Somebody finally told you to your face......

As "I'M STUPID" gives it his best try after pondering it for 59 minutes!
"I'M STUPID" you've never posted a thing worth argueing about here so my appropriate moniker for you has no bearing!
Notice who has been making the personal attacks in the global warming hoax debate?

Starting from page 1 to 61 you have demonstrated well on your name calling and personal attacks.


....Notice who has been making the personal attacks in the global warming hoax debate?

You must be talking about yourself.

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after pondering it for 59 minutes!

LMAO....Quite obviously, you think everyone is just waiting for your replies.....