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Okay, camlock story time. They've had camlocks since I started racing 55 years ago. We used the old aircraft camlocks that you had to turn and push to release.

A couple of stories about those type of camlocks. A friend of mine, David Gass from El Paso was racing at Indy one year in his Monza. He had that type of camlock harness on. He flipped the car and was hanging upside down. He turned the latch and started beating on the release button. He could not get out of the car till the Safety Safari got there to help him. He would not run a camlock harness after that incident.

Marvin Schwartz was killed in Tucson years ago in his T/F car when he turned the latch before he made his run. Lots of guys did that, they would turn the latch and then all you had to do was press the button to release it after the run. He crashed and the steering wheel or something in the car hit the button and he flew out of the car at about 180 mph. Unfortunately he didn't survive.

Now, problems with the Latch Link type of harness. I have seen it a couple of times where a guy's arm restraint got caught on the latch and opened it up while going down the track. That's the reason that the newer ones have a velcro tab attached to them to keep that from happening. One guy was going down the track in his dragster and his harness was flapping in the breeze so those things are not perfect either.

I do run a camlock harness, (Stroud) and while I have gotten used to it I don't like the fact that it is similar to a Simpson in that the buckles have to have a straight shot to hook them. The G-Force is a better design in my opinion since it has a 20 degree opening in the camlock itself. Much easier to use.

Well, pick your poison and take your choice. And buy a fire system so if you're ever in that position you can hopefully put that fire out.


I may try the GForce. Between up close eyesight not being what it was, some extra pounds, and wearing a neck support, my Strouds have become a pain to latch. In the dark I just about can't get it done at times.


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Okay, camlock story time. They've had camlocks since I started racing 55 years ago. We used the old aircraft camlocks that you had to turn and push to release.

A couple of stories about those type of camlocks. A friend of mine, David Gass from El Paso was racing at Indy one year in his Monza. He had that type of camlock harness on. He flipped the car and was hanging upside down. He turned the latch and started beating on the release button. He could not get out of the car till the Safety Safari got there to help him. He would not run a camlock harness after that incident.

Marvin Schwartz was killed in Tucson years ago in his T/F car when he turned the latch before he made his run. Lots of guys did that, they would turn the latch and then all you had to do was press the button to release it after the run. He crashed and the steering wheel or something in the car hit the button and he flew out of the car at about 180 mph. Unfortunately he didn't survive.

Now, problems with the Latch Link type of harness. I have seen it a couple of times where a guy's arm restraint got caught on the latch and opened it up while going down the track. That's the reason that the newer ones have a velcro tab attached to them to keep that from happening. One guy was going down the track in his dragster and his harness was flapping in the breeze so those things are not perfect either.

I do run a camlock harness, (Stroud) and while I have gotten used to it I don't like the fact that it is similar to a Simpson in that the buckles have to have a straight shot to hook them. The G-Force is a better design in my opinion since it has a 20 degree opening in the camlock itself. Much easier to use.

Well, pick your poison and take your choice. And buy a fire system so if you're ever in that position you can hopefully put that fire out.


I may try the GForce. Between up close eyesight not being what it was, some extra pounds, and wearing a neck support, my Strouds have become a pain to latch. In the dark I just about can't get it done at times.


Lose some weight no disrespect there but you will feel a lot better. And why not put a light in your car so you can see things better?
 
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^^^Down 15. Not all the good way but they are gone. Light's a good idea. Need to find an LED that I can aim at my johnson, and stay out of my eyes.


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Take a walk through the pits of Super Comp or any Sportsman racers and see what WINNERS are running.

You wouldn’t have a clue to what belts are being run by super comp racers or any sportsman racer competing in any class at an NHRA Divisional or National event. I know first hand what brand harness is number 1 by far amongst this group and it ain’t brand X.



Weird thing is, I quit buying Simpson when they went CHINESE, then I had Impact stuff until Bill sold that out. Bill was good people.


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^^^Down 15. Not all the good way but they are gone. Light's a good idea. Need to find an LED that I can aim at my johnson, and stay out of my eyes.


Good for you on the weight loss. Make sure you get a red LED. That’s what they use in aircraft because it has the least affect on your eyes. Meaning your eyes will adjust almost instantly and you won’t get that blinding flash from any other color.
 
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^^^Down 15. Not all the good way but they are gone. Light's a good idea. Need to find an LED that I can aim at my johnson, and stay out of my eyes.


Look at these

https://www.superbrightleds.co...ail-connection/1685/



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Take a walk through the pits of Super Comp or any Sportsman racers and see what WINNERS are running.

You wouldn’t have a clue to what belts are being run by super comp racers or any sportsman racer competing in any class at an NHRA Divisional or National event. I know first hand what brand harness is number 1 by far amongst this group and it ain’t brand X.



Weird thing is, I quit buying Simpson when they went CHINESE, then I had Impact stuff until Bill sold that out. Bill was good people.


The only thing Simpson has made in China are some of their helmets. Everything else is made in the USA.
 
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Great ideas! Red especially. I had some troubles with the tail lights that halfscale supplies with their cars, and we bought some strap on (heh heh) battery ones that are for bicycles, that work well. Might just see about one of those.


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Great ideas! Red especially. I had some troubles with the tail lights that halfscale supplies with their cars, and we bought some strap on (heh heh) battery ones that are for bicycles, that work well. Might just see about one of those.


I have factory taillights in my car and use these.

https://www.superbrightleds.co...&model=910&year=2005
 
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I have three of these I’m installing in my dragster https://www.amazon.com/attwood...FS6DVVC2X8RCBVAM91BK
 
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The only thing Simpson has made in China are some of their helmets. Everything else is made in the USA.

EXACTLY and the Chinese helmets are their lower end. My son’s Diamondback is made in the US.
 
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Pro 1 belts are in, fast, friendly, personal service, and a very nice product.
I gathered they don't sell through wholesale distributors or mega-monster mail order.

So the kids will have to suffer with the RJS belts in the passenger seat for a couple of years...

Back to the Simpson conversation, pretty sure my last pair of driving shoes were made in CHINA.


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The bar was set long ago and I'll continue to run the gold standard... Simpson Race Products, the company born out of burns, crashes and deaths in auto racing, started by Bill Simpson an innovator over 60 years ago and is still unparalleled today and still providing harnesses, suits, helmets to the Professional racers of NHRA and NASCAR as well countless sportsman racers competing in both these organizations.

Simpson...Leading where others can only follow and copy...CHEAPER!


Yeah, Bill had to leave the company when his belts failed in a rather uneventful crash and killed SR. Then he starts a new company that screwed 1,000's of racers by building a suit that you could destroy with a match and then wouldn't give refunds. Yeah, real great guy, and company!!!! NOT!



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We all make choices in life, I’ve made mine and I’m in good company with 99% of NHRA Pro drivers and NASCAR drivers in addition to all the other drivers using Simpson belts in NHRA class racing and every form of motor sports.
 
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The ONLY reason that number could be that high would be if contingency was involved


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That is your biased opinion NOT fact.
 
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That is your biased opinion NOT fact.


So is everything you spout.


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That too is your opinion NOT fact! Spitting
 
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If you can back up your 99% number I will tell you you are right. Until then..... opinion


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Stevie fucing Wonder can see that 99% use Simpson belts. Laughing very hard
 
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