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quote:Originally posted by Cashflow:
Okay, camlock story time. They've had camlocks since I started racing 55 years ago. We used the old aircraft camlocks that you had to turn and push to release.
A couple of stories about those type of camlocks. A friend of mine, David Gass from El Paso was racing at Indy one year in his Monza. He had that type of camlock harness on. He flipped the car and was hanging upside down. He turned the latch and started beating on the release button. He could not get out of the car till the Safety Safari got there to help him. He would not run a camlock harness after that incident.
Marvin Schwartz was killed in Tucson years ago in his T/F car when he turned the latch before he made his run. Lots of guys did that, they would turn the latch and then all you had to do was press the button to release it after the run. He crashed and the steering wheel or something in the car hit the button and he flew out of the car at about 180 mph. Unfortunately he didn't survive.
Now, problems with the Latch Link type of harness. I have seen it a couple of times where a guy's arm restraint got caught on the latch and opened it up while going down the track. That's the reason that the newer ones have a velcro tab attached to them to keep that from happening. One guy was going down the track in his dragster and his harness was flapping in the breeze so those things are not perfect either.
I do run a camlock harness, (Stroud) and while I have gotten used to it I don't like the fact that it is similar to a Simpson in that the buckles have to have a straight shot to hook them. The G-Force is a better design in my opinion since it has a 20 degree opening in the camlock itself. Much easier to use.
Well, pick your poison and take your choice. And buy a fire system so if you're ever in that position you can hopefully put that fire out.
quote:Originally posted by Bucky:quote:Originally posted by Cashflow:
Okay, camlock story time. They've had camlocks since I started racing 55 years ago. We used the old aircraft camlocks that you had to turn and push to release.
A couple of stories about those type of camlocks. A friend of mine, David Gass from El Paso was racing at Indy one year in his Monza. He had that type of camlock harness on. He flipped the car and was hanging upside down. He turned the latch and started beating on the release button. He could not get out of the car till the Safety Safari got there to help him. He would not run a camlock harness after that incident.
Marvin Schwartz was killed in Tucson years ago in his T/F car when he turned the latch before he made his run. Lots of guys did that, they would turn the latch and then all you had to do was press the button to release it after the run. He crashed and the steering wheel or something in the car hit the button and he flew out of the car at about 180 mph. Unfortunately he didn't survive.
Now, problems with the Latch Link type of harness. I have seen it a couple of times where a guy's arm restraint got caught on the latch and opened it up while going down the track. That's the reason that the newer ones have a velcro tab attached to them to keep that from happening. One guy was going down the track in his dragster and his harness was flapping in the breeze so those things are not perfect either.
I do run a camlock harness, (Stroud) and while I have gotten used to it I don't like the fact that it is similar to a Simpson in that the buckles have to have a straight shot to hook them. The G-Force is a better design in my opinion since it has a 20 degree opening in the camlock itself. Much easier to use.
Well, pick your poison and take your choice. And buy a fire system so if you're ever in that position you can hopefully put that fire out.
I may try the GForce. Between up close eyesight not being what it was, some extra pounds, and wearing a neck support, my Strouds have become a pain to latch. In the dark I just about can't get it done at times.
quote:Originally posted by 1320racer:quote:Originally posted by Curly1:
Take a walk through the pits of Super Comp or any Sportsman racers and see what WINNERS are running.
You wouldn’t have a clue to what belts are being run by super comp racers or any sportsman racer competing in any class at an NHRA Divisional or National event. I know first hand what brand harness is number 1 by far amongst this group and it ain’t brand X.
quote:Originally posted by Bucky:
^^^Down 15. Not all the good way but they are gone. Light's a good idea. Need to find an LED that I can aim at my johnson, and stay out of my eyes.
quote:Originally posted by Bucky:
^^^Down 15. Not all the good way but they are gone. Light's a good idea. Need to find an LED that I can aim at my johnson, and stay out of my eyes.
quote:Originally posted by Goob:quote:Originally posted by 1320racer:quote:Originally posted by Curly1:
Take a walk through the pits of Super Comp or any Sportsman racers and see what WINNERS are running.
You wouldn’t have a clue to what belts are being run by super comp racers or any sportsman racer competing in any class at an NHRA Divisional or National event. I know first hand what brand harness is number 1 by far amongst this group and it ain’t brand X.
Weird thing is, I quit buying Simpson when they went CHINESE, then I had Impact stuff until Bill sold that out. Bill was good people.
quote:Originally posted by Bucky:
Great ideas! Red especially. I had some troubles with the tail lights that halfscale supplies with their cars, and we bought some strap on (heh heh) battery ones that are for bicycles, that work well. Might just see about one of those.
quote:Originally posted by Richard Hammond:
The only thing Simpson has made in China are some of their helmets. Everything else is made in the USA.
quote:Originally posted by 1320racer:
The bar was set long ago and I'll continue to run the gold standard... Simpson Race Products, the company born out of burns, crashes and deaths in auto racing, started by Bill Simpson an innovator over 60 years ago and is still unparalleled today and still providing harnesses, suits, helmets to the Professional racers of NHRA and NASCAR as well countless sportsman racers competing in both these organizations.
Simpson...Leading where others can only follow and copy...CHEAPER!
quote:Originally posted by 1320racer:
That is your biased opinion NOT fact.
