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Originally posted by Bucky:
Well that's great Mike. But the guys in my department were sick. Not deathly ill. But some had fever, all lost taste and smell ability. Flu like symptoms. The ones that tested negative, didn't get sick. Was it in their heads? Also the mortality spike in our area is very pronounced. That really can't be faked here. Everyone knows everything about everyone.
Im not in favor of any mandates. I think the governors in many states including mine have loused this up. But I also see a pronounced spike in cases and deaths.

No you don't. Statistically impossible claim.

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Originally posted by n5ifi:
The US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:
0-19 99.997%
20-49 99.98%
50-69 99.5%
70+ 94.6%

So your protocol is to deny. Even if I brought you bodies you would deny. I could bring you hard and fast evidence that you hit the damn cone and you would still deny. Which is why I usually have you blocked and seldom view your posts on the general discussion side.

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Originally posted by Bucky:
So your protocol is to deny. Even if I brought you bodies you would deny. I could bring you hard and fast evidence that you hit the damn cone and you would still deny. Which is why I usually have you blocked and seldom view your posts on the general discussion side.

To deny is to not admit truth based on Evidence. I'm not the one of the two of us notorious for this, am I?

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Originally posted by n5ifi:
The US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:
0-19 99.997%
20-49 99.98%
50-69 99.5%
70+ 94.6%

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We don't want to infect our older parents first of all.

I understand you're rural, but here in the city the drug stores offer/administer covid test. I would think you could look around and hopefully find an outlet close enough to travel. Thus giving you some degree of confidence your parents would be safe.

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

Elon Musk took 4 tests in one day last week. Failed 2, passed 2.

Same odds as flipping a coin. In other words, completely useless test. No better than a wild-ass guess.

Musk took the rapid tests. They are known to not be very accurate. The PCR test is pretty good and he took one of those but I didn’t see the results.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
Musk took the rapid tests. They are known to not be very accurate. The PCR test is pretty good and he took one of those but I didn’t see the results.

I have read that the rapid tests are very broad in their spectrum. They show positive even with very very low amounts of covid virus. Now, that could be a person getting sick, or just a person shrugging off the virus. Those could have pegged a positive and the others showed negative, and that would not be uncommon. I do think it is bull**** to count the rapids as positive when many many people who pop positives on the rapids never get sick.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
Musk took the rapid tests.

SpaceX launches crew for relief mission; Elon Musk sidelined by coronavirus

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — SpaceX launched four astronauts to the International Space Station on Sunday on the first full-fledged taxi flight for NASA by a private company.

Sidelined by the coronavirus himself, SpaceX founder and chief executive Elon Musk was forced to monitor the action from afar. He tweeted that he “most likely” had a moderate case of COVID-19. NASA policy at Kennedy Space Center requires anyone testing positive for coronavirus to quarantine and remain isolated.


https://www.marketwatch.com/st...ed-by-coronavirus-01


Musk is amazing.

Some of you people need to take this more serious. The Corona is here, soon only 99.64% of you will survive. Even after the Mask Mandate and Biden's new 6 week Lockdown and Trumps Vaccination it will still be here (hopefully a smaller percentage)

One scary thing in the news yesterday. They found that 1 in 4 college age kids had seriously considered SUICIDE this Summer during shut down. That is 25% and insane. I wonder if the old people in isolation and other age groups are also thinking same thing as the college age kids? At some point we are going to have to think is the CURE worse than the DISEASE? Yes, we can stop someone from getting it by putting them in solitary confinement in protective gear but at what cost?

Also I think much of this is about Government getting more control over us than it is for our safety. Smoking still kills more than Corona ever did yet what they do about that?

One other little tidbit of information. So far this year AMERICA has lost LESS people overall than we normally do. Every day, every year people die for many reasons but this year we have lost LESS than normal at this time. Less people to car wrecks, etc. I do think if it continues Suicides will start going up.

I am not saying it is not serious it is but I am not going to hide in a cave and become a hermit because of it. You do what you want.

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Originally posted by Canted Valve:

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We don't want to infect our older parents first of all.

I understand you're rural, but here in the city the drug stores offer/administer covid test. I would think you could look around and hopefully find an outlet close enough to travel. Thus giving you some degree of confidence your parents would be safe.

Good idea. Funny down in Florida when we visited, you could drive up to pharmacy and get a test. In Illinois I have not heard that the process is that easy. something to look into though.

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by Canted Valve:

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We don't want to infect our older parents first of all.

I understand you're rural, but here in the city the drug stores offer/administer covid test. I would think you could look around and hopefully find an outlet close enough to travel. Thus giving you some degree of confidence your parents would be safe.

Good idea. Funny down in Florida when we visited, you could drive up to pharmacy and get a test. In Illinois I have not heard that the process is that easy. something to look into though.

I live in Illinois and there are drive up tests offered at the CVS right by my house. I drive by every day on the way to and from work.I never saw a single car in line to get a test.

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Originally posted by Curly1:
One other little tidbit of information. So far this year AMERICA has lost LESS people overall than we normally do.

WHY do people keep repeating this? That "tidbit of information" is demonstrably false, and the data isn't that hard to find. Fake numbers started circulating Facebook this summer from a parody Twitter account named "Sarah Hucklebee", and people just automagically believed it, just like every other meme out there. smh...

Comparing apples to apples...
2019 through week 37: 2,023,929
2020 through week 37: 2,252,622 +228,693

2019 through week 44: 2,397,426
2020 through week 44: 2,672,741 +275,315

SOURCE: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Week...ect-Causes/muzy-jte6

I'll say again this is how this is supposed to work according to the constitution. God given inalienable rights.

Individuals determine risk of whether or not to carry on with daily activities.

In the event they died, they died for freedom and are American heroes the same as a soldier, who dies fighting for Freedom.

They're coming for your God given rights. The people always lose there rights as a result of these events. This is not a pandemic, it's an event.

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Originally posted by 442OLDS:

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by Canted Valve:

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We don't want to infect our older parents first of all.

I understand you're rural, but here in the city the drug stores offer/administer covid test. I would think you could look around and hopefully find an outlet close enough to travel. Thus giving you some degree of confidence your parents would be safe.

Good idea. Funny down in Florida when we visited, you could drive up to pharmacy and get a test. In Illinois I have not heard that the process is that easy. something to look into though.

I live in Illinois and there are drive up tests offered at the CVS right by my house. I drive by every day on the way to and from work.I never saw a single car in line to get a test.

Free Test at CVS. Make an Appt. In and out. Once done, set up an account with via text sent to phone. Easy. Then log into account for results after time requirement stated.

https://www.cvs.com/minuteclinic/covid-19-testing

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:

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Originally posted by Curly1:
One other little tidbit of information. So far this year AMERICA has lost LESS people overall than we normally do.

WHY do people keep repeating this? That "tidbit of information" is demonstrably false, and the data isn't that hard to find. Fake numbers started circulating Facebook this summer from a parody Twitter account named "Sarah Hucklebee", and people just automagically believed it, just like every other meme out there. smh...

Comparing apples to apples...
2019 through week 37: 2,023,929
2020 through week 37: 2,252,622 +228,693

2019 through week 44: 2,397,426
2020 through week 44: 2,672,741 +275,315

SOURCE: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Week...ect-Causes/muzy-jte6

Are the + numbers for the Covid deaths and the left numbers everything else?

This event is a precedent for arbitrary rule. According to the current precedent being set, hypothetically they can lock you down for anything. They could say there's an alien invasion for instance. Anything you can think of.

Without God given rights, what happens in nature has no relevance to their arbitrary findings.

According to the precedent being set they decide right and wrong, true and false arbitrarily.

Justice becomes arbitrary, according to their preferences.

Communism.

According to the precedent being set, they can shutdown the economy any time they want arbitrarily.

Shutting down the economy is a wealth transfer because everything is sold pennies on the dollar, on the back end when just about everyone loses everything they have worked for, the rich are there to capitalize, scoop everything up pennies on the dollar.

Not allowing small business's to earn while arbitrarily allowing large corporations to earn, accomplishes the same thing - wealth transfer.

The thing here is; A person can accept that there is a larger rate of infection going on by looking around, but also retain the reality that mandates and shut downs are destructive overall and downright illegal.

Why I think it is important to realize the higher infection rates, is because we need to take responsibility for our health and the health of our families. If we act like nothing is happening, this will go from bad to worse. It may be a localized or regional thing, but one doesn't have to look far here to SEE that people are getting sick and even dying at a higher rate than we had seen months ago. Some people seem to be the little kid with his fingers in his ears, eyes closed and yelling until the world leaves him alone. That aint gonna help here. And by letting this get worse, you just give ammunition to those who think a shutdown is the right answer.

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Originally posted by Bucky:
The thing here is; A person can accept that there is a larger rate of infection going on by looking around, but also retain the reality that mandates and shut downs are destructive overall and downright illegal.

Why I think it is important to realize the higher infection rates, is because we need to take responsibility for our health and the health of our families. If we act like nothing is happening, this will go from bad to worse. It may be a localized or regional thing, but one doesn't have to look far here to SEE that people are getting sick and even dying at a higher rate than we had seen months ago. Some people seem to be the little kid with his fingers in his ears, eyes closed and yelling until the world leaves him alone. That aint gonna help here. And by letting this get worse, you just give ammunition to those who think a shutdown is the right answer.

It doesn't MATTER how many people are infected. These are the stats of how lethal covid is. How lethal covid is won't CHANGE no matter how many times you say it is.

It don't matter how many are infected.

Looking at these inflated stats, what does it matter how many are infected??

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Originally posted by n5ifi:
The US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:
0-19 99.997%
20-49 99.98%
50-69 99.5%
70+ 94.6%

Trump said in his 60 minutes interview quote "we test a lot, if we didn't nobody would even know they had it"

So what does it matter how many are infected??

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Originally posted by n5ifi:
The US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:
0-19 99.997%
20-49 99.98%
50-69 99.5%
70+ 94.6%