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Originally posted by hangonrcer:

Needs to be a inspector at the end of the track at the turn off with laptop in hand ready to plug into every single grid on property along with someone else who can check for driveshaft sensors are unhooked or completely taken off the car. Needs to be randoms throughout the event along with everyone in the "split" torn down and everything looked at. !

And we have people here complaining that the race is slowed down because people take too long to stage...

You need to get over whatever happened in your picture, good grief man, let it go.

I was once throw out for leaking at a track. When I went back to the pits, I could find no leak. I guess I should hold resentment toward the track and starter. Maybe I can post pictures of of the non-leak and refer you to them in the future. lol

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
Any outside influence in which YOU don't produce victory, is wrong.

Help from a track official or gizmo is wrong.

Everyone already knows this.

Totally and 100 percent agree!!!!

Now, can you show me where manipulation of the tree and or vehicle at big money bracket racing is illegal!?!?

Because while you know it’s wrong and I know it’s wrong, I’ve been around long enough to to have seen lots of stuff.

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
It's when you get a bunch of F'n liberals together clouding right from wrong with their absurd opinions, and fair minded people don't stand up to the absurdity of their subjective opinions, things go off the rails.

Everyone already knows right from wrong.

This is what lefty's would like to do away with, making everything based on opinion, using wildly unreasonable explanations.

Or playing dumb.

Playing dumb doesn't erase the fact, everyone knows right from wrong.

For the sake of clarity, I'd love to have you (Mike), point out (specifically) which absurd opinions and wildly unreasonable explanations that have been posted here, that are the ones being made by the "F'n liberals" that are clouding right from wrong.

This ought to be interesting...

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Originally posted by Mad Dog:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
It's when you get a bunch of F'n liberals together clouding right from wrong with their absurd opinions, and fair minded people don't stand up to the absurdity of their subjective opinions, things go off the rails.

Everyone already knows right from wrong.

This is what lefty's would like to do away with, making everything based on opinion, using wildly unreasonable explanations.

Or playing dumb.

Playing dumb doesn't erase the fact, everyone knows right from wrong.

For the sake of clarity, I'd love to have you (Mike), point out (specifically) which absurd opinions and wildly unreasonable explanations that have been posted here, that are the ones being made by the "F'n liberals" that are clouding right from wrong.

This ought to be interesting...

Everyone already knows right from wrong.

If you wanna throw an absurd opinion out there, I'll point out rationally why it's an absurd opinion.

It's when the fair minded don't stand up using rational explanations. You end up with 400 pages of nothingness.

Cheating is a matter of right vs wrong behavior, not based in opinion.

Everyone should already know, if YOU didn't produce anything on the track by your own ability, you didn't produce victory.

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by Mad Dog:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
It's when you get a bunch of F'n liberals together clouding right from wrong with their absurd opinions, and fair minded people don't stand up to the absurdity of their subjective opinions, things go off the rails.

Everyone already knows right from wrong.

This is what lefty's would like to do away with, making everything based on opinion, using wildly unreasonable explanations.

Or playing dumb.

Playing dumb doesn't erase the fact, everyone knows right from wrong.

Everyone already knows right from wrong.

I have had many discussions in the last few months regarding many issues in our country and not everyone is in agreement with knowing what is right and wrong.

If somebody figured out a way to take the stripe by .0005 consistantly,they could be innovative or they could be cheating.Or could they just be that good?

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Originally posted by 442OLDS:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by Mad Dog:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
It's when you get a bunch of F'n liberals together clouding right from wrong with their absurd opinions, and fair minded people don't stand up to the absurdity of their subjective opinions, things go off the rails.

Everyone already knows right from wrong.

This is what lefty's would like to do away with, making everything based on opinion, using wildly unreasonable explanations.

Or playing dumb.

Playing dumb doesn't erase the fact, everyone knows right from wrong.

Everyone already knows right from wrong.

I have had many discussions in the last few months regarding many issues in our country and not everyone is in agreement with knowing what is right and wrong.

If somebody figured out a way to take the stripe by .0005 consistantly,they could be innovative or they could be cheating.Or could they just be that good?

It's not that they don't know right from wrong, they know.

It's that they don't for whatever reason, want to admit they know right from wrong.

This is why fair minded people must stand up with rational objective evidence of what is right.

Without objective right and wrong, there is no such thing as justice.

This is what lefty's want. Decide everything based on opinion, or vote. Ignore Evidence - objective reality.

You won't ever take 5 ten thousandths of a second stripe consistently.

It's irrational to suggest.

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Originally posted by Tom Reyer:
You need to get over whatever happened in your picture, good grief man, let it go.

Mike how many of these Big Buck races how you entered in the pass 7 years, how did you do?

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Originally posted by kilroy:
The bottom line is you don't have to go..

Simple as that really. If you are convinced that you will be cheated if you go racing, don't go racing for God's sake!

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Originally posted by Tom Reyer:
You need to get over whatever happened in your picture, good grief man, let it go.

I was once throw out for leaking at a track. When I went back to the pits, I could find no leak. I guess I should hold resentment toward the track and starter. Maybe I can post pictures of of the non-leak and refer you to them in the future. lol

Can't do that. A track official put the loser back in the final round on a bold faced lie.

It's my duty to society to not let it go. You'd be on my side if you had a decent IQ because we can't have track officials deciding drag races in this fashion, this could be you.

The drag race is decided by the drag race on the track, not a track official who comes along 45 minutes later and decides he's gonna change the outcome of a drag race using a fantasy story to put a racer in the final round who has already loaded up declared loser.

Not gonna happen, it's my duty to society. This is how freedom is preserved. You only think freedom is free, because of people like me.

Just like Trump said, there is no freedom without justice.

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by kilroy:
The bottom line is you don't have to go..

Simple as that really. If you are convinced that you will be cheated if you go racing, don't go racing for God's sake!

This is why I never go to the casino. The odds are stacked in their favor.

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Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:

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Originally posted by hangonrcer:

Needs to be a inspector at the end of the track at the turn off with laptop in hand ready to plug into every single grid on property along with someone else who can check for driveshaft sensors are unhooked or completely taken off the car. Needs to be randoms throughout the event along with everyone in the "split" torn down and everything looked at. !

And we have people here complaining that the race is slowed down because people take too long to stage...

Not even gonna bring up the new fad of a 6.70 door cars doing top sportsmen burnouts.. WTF is that all about. More and more burning out across the line.. WHY??

I happened to notice the burnouts across the line on many slow cars recently...no names need mentioned, you know who you are.

With the HUGE expected car counts at these BIG $ races we all could find one way to speed up our "routines" as only so many pairs can go down per hour/per day. Possibly consider it a courtesy to your fellow competitors to keep the pace of the race up?

Just some random thoughts while sitting in a hot race car waiting my turn at the track recently.

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Originally posted by RacerVX54:

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Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:

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Originally posted by hangonrcer:

Needs to be a inspector at the end of the track at the turn off with laptop in hand ready to plug into every single grid on property along with someone else who can check for driveshaft sensors are unhooked or completely taken off the car. Needs to be randoms throughout the event along with everyone in the "split" torn down and everything looked at. !

And we have people here complaining that the race is slowed down because people take too long to stage...

Not even gonna bring up the new fad of a 6.70 door cars doing top sportsmen burnouts.. WTF is that all about. More and more burning out across the line.. WHY??

No reason for your average bracket door car or roadster with 4 wheel brakes to ever do a burnout across the line. NHRA used to have a rule against it when I ran SG back in the day, not sure if they still do. Should definitely be a rule at all bracket races IMO

there are no rules at these big $ bracket races. You pay to play, that's it and nothing is illegal except for what is specifically stated on the flyer which is no stutter box and no slew rate controller. Even then, who's checking...No one.

Oh and everyone is required to have a diaper. but again, no one is checking

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I'm still very intrigued about these house cars... a lot of people bringing it up with no explanation some of us are curious, what are they and why should we be concerned.

they are drivers who are recruited by the promoter, their entries covered by the promoter in exchange for a percentage of their winnings. Just another way that the promoter/house always wins! Bottomline, they change the outcome of the race.

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Originally posted by Brock:
I'm still very intrigued about these house cars... a lot of people bringing it up with no explanation some of us are curious, what are they and why should we be concerned.

They originally declared the Nova winner of this race. 45 minutes later track officials put the station wagon back in the race, in final round claiming the Nova ran over the finish line foam block you can see sitting on the finish line behind the cars unmoved. The wagon is a house car Bradenton. He had to take his car out of the trailer for the final round, after originally being declared loser in the semi final rd to the Nova.

I didn't see these photo's until the next day. By then it was too late according to Bradenton.

Bradenton managers husband said life isn't fair, while trolling my FB.

All bets are off when the institution are the looters.

The real invisible enemy is the institution.

Beware, this could be you, if you come across looters with house cars in the race.

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Originally posted by markemark:
I’ve never heard of this about Grid, and perhaps you could be more specific on exactly what you have written.

Rumors on the street are you can send your grid to a very popular former track manager who is still very involved in racing today. For a small fee he can install some type of software for you to use the ARC feature of the grid but have it completely undetectable when a outside source plugs in to see if that feature is being used. Again as the first word of my response says it is only a rumor but have heard the same one from different people multiple times.

Markemark by reading on the tech side of the forum you are very smart when it comes to the grid so maybe you would be able to confirm if this could actually be done or if it is nothing but another story someone made up.

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Originally posted by TORQIN:
I happened to notice the burnouts across the line on many slow cars recently...no names need mentioned, you know who you are.

OK, I promise not to do that again next weekend, but when the water is dragged out of the box considerably it’s tough not to do.I'll pass this on to Matt.