During the first half of August, Arctic ice extent declined more slowly than during the same period in 2007 and 2008. The slower decline is primarily due to a recent atmospheric circulation pattern, which transported ice toward the Siberian coast and discouraged export of ice out of the Arctic Ocean. It is now unlikely that 2009 will see a record low extent, but the minimum summer ice extent will still be much lower than the 1979 to 2000 average.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cg...&sm=09&sd=03&sy=2009

http://www.natice.noaa.gov/ims/loop/ak-1mo-loop.html

The temp has been above average 152 of the last 190 days in Ft. Lauderdale.

The temp has been at or above average 172 of the last 190 days in Ft. Lauderdale.

Just sayin'.......

NOAA: Summer Temperature Below Average for U.S.
September 10, 2009

The average June-August 2009 summer temperature for the contiguous United States was below average – the 34th coolest on record, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. August was also below the long-term average. The analysis is based on records dating back to 1895.


http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/s...910_summerstats.html

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Originally posted by Trans Lady:
NOAA: Summer Temperature Below Average for U.S.
September 10, 2009

The average June-August 2009 summer temperature for the contiguous United States was below average – the 34th coolest on record, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. August was also below the long-term average. The analysis is based on records dating back to 1895.


http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/s...910_summerstats.html

I thought NOAA can't be trusted, they are a government organization right?

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Originally posted by Jeremy J.:
The temp has been above average 152 of the last 190 days in Ft. Lauderdale.

The temp has been at or above average 172 of the last 190 days in Ft. Lauderdale.

Just sayin'.......

Where did you get your data, got a link?

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Originally posted by 82Blackbird:


Where did you get your data, got a link?

Go here, click on Ft. Lauderdale, then click on Preliminary Monthly Climate Data and go to archives.

http://www.weather.gov/climate/index.php?wfo=mfl

So Jeremy Im confused.

Its OK for you to use that link and state what is written. But when someone else uses that link you want to debunk it?

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Originally posted by Kevin Garceau:
So Jeremy Im confused.

Its OK for you to use that link and state what is written. But when someone else uses that link you want to debunk it?

That's called sarcasm. Several times within this thread when I used NOAA as a source others said NOAA couldn't be trusted because it's a government organization.

I realize what you attempted to make it sound like. But in reality sounded more like hypocrisy to me.

Its OK its your story

Kev-O, how is it going? Long time no hear, drop me a note sometime, maybe when the global warming slows down because these 70 degree days in the beginning of Sept in Texas are killing me, LOL.

Yeah I wasnt around much. Didnt have the urge to visit racing sites since I had to sell everything.

Im racing in San Antonio Oct 24ish? I think its two day event...not sure. Racing the Daytona down there. Or maybe the 65 - never know.

My parents were up here from S.A in August, they froze in the 45 degree nights. Yes in August.

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I used NOAA as a source others said NOAA couldn't be trusted because it's a government organization.

When did I ever say that to you?

More news for the non-believers.
Whats your next excuse?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...enland_warming_ocean

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Whats your next excuse?

"We're heading off to a climate extreme and this is just going to snowball," says Curry, reflecting on the state of the global climate on the Greenpeace icebreaker hosting the Woods Hole research team.

Greenpeace has been variously criticized for being too radical, too alarmist,[41] or too mainstream, for using methods bordering on eco-terrorism, for having itself caused environmental damage in its activities, for taking positions which are not environmentally or economically sound, and for valuing non-human causes over human causes. These criticisms have been made by governments, industrial and political lobbyists and other environmental groups.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenpeace

Interesting that one of algore's staunchest supporters has seen the light and jumped ship!
Hope the guy has hired a food taster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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More news for the non-believers.

Arctic Ice to Last Decades Longer Than Thought?

This year's cooler-than-expected summer means the Arctic probably won't experience ice-free summers until 2030 or 2040, scientists say.


Some models had previously predicted that the Arctic could be ice free in summer by as soon as 2013, due to rising temperatures from global warming.

http://news.nationalgeographic...-arctic-sea-ice.html

They can't be reliably on a short time scale yet somehow global warming can be presented as a guaranteed scientific fact many years into the future???????

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Originally posted by Trans Lady:

They can't be reliably on a short time scale yet somehow global warming can be presented as a guaranteed scientific fact many years into the future???????

Yet the final result is still ice-free summers. What does that tell you?

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Originally posted by Jeremy J.:

quote:

Originally posted by Trans Lady:

They can't be reliably on a short time scale yet somehow global warming can be presented as a guaranteed scientific fact many years into the future???????

Yet the final result is still ice-free summers. What does that tell you?

Looks like Trans Ladys statement went over you head jj.

September hotter than average.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/s...007_septusstats.html

What happened to global warming?

This headline may come as a bit of a surprise, so too might that fact that the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.

But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm