All the SUV's, factories and the like apparently have eliminated axial tilt, according to the algore whackados that is??????????

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Originally posted by Bill Koski:
All the SUV's, factories and the like apparently have eliminated axial tilt, according to the algore whackados that is??????????

Can you comprehend any sort of scientific information? I said axial tilt is the reason for ice ages and the ice caps. If you understood axial tilt, it is so gradual that nobody will know the difference in their lifetime. Axial tilt contributes to consistent climate change over tens of thousands of years. NOT decades.

What???
What's this about axles tilting?

I don't get it...I just don't get it.

Tilted axles. Never heard of them.

Actually the earths tilt is called the, obliquity of the ecliptic, and is tilted at roughly about 23.44* now and varies between about 22.1* to 24.5* and cycles back and forth between these values in about 41,000 years and has a secondary short-term variation of about 18.6 year cycle. Oh, and by the way the tilt does not change, month to month, to cause the seasons, it is the position of the earth within its orbit with respect to the sun, producing the apparent tilting of the earth’s axis and the seasons. We are now heading toward the minimum and should reach it in about the year 11,800 give or take a bit.

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We are now heading toward the minimum and should reach it in about the year 11,800 give or take a bit.

I can hardly wait!

LMAO at Mike.. I'll stay up and wait with you

Here's something I just read..




Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:55 AM

By: Phil Brennan




Are the world's ice caps melting because of climate change, or are the reports just a lot of scare mongering by the advocates of the global warming theory?


Scare mongering appears to be the case, according to reports from the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) that reveal that almost all the allegedly “lost” ice has come back. A NOAA report shows that ice levels which had shrunk from 5 million square miles in January 2007 to just 1.5 million square miles in October, are almost back to their original levels.


Moreover, a Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that there is nearly a third more ice in Antarctica than usual, challenging the global warming crusaders and buttressing arguments of skeptics who deny that the world is undergoing global warming.


The Daily express recalls the photograph of polar bears clinging on to a melting iceberg which has been widely hailed as proof of the need to fight climate change and has been used by former Vice President Al Gore during his "Inconvenient Truth" lectures about mankind’s alleged impact on the global climate.


Gore fails to mention that the photograph was taken in the month of August when melting is normal. Or that the polar bear population has soared in recent years.


As winter roars in across the Northern Hemisphere, Mother Nature seems to have joined the ranks of the skeptics.


As the Express notes, scientists are saying the northern Hemisphere has endured its coldest winter in decades, adding that snow cover across the area is at its greatest since 1966. The newspaper cites the one exception — Western Europe, which had, until the weekend when temperatures plunged to as low as -10 C in some places, been basking in unseasonably warm weather.


Around the world, vast areas have been buried under some of the heaviest snowfalls in decades. Central and southern China, the United States, and Canada were hit hard by snowstorms. In China, snowfall was so heavy that over 100,000 houses collapsed under the weight of snow.


Jerusalem, Damascus, Amman, and northern Saudi Arabia report the heaviest falls in years and below-zero temperatures. In Afghanistan, snow and freezing weather killed 120 people. Even Baghdad had a snowstorm, the first in the memory of most residents.


AFP news reports icy temperatures have just swept through south China, stranding 180,000 people and leading to widespread power cuts just as the area was recovering from the worst weather in 50 years, the government said Monday. The latest cold snap has taken a severe toll in usually temperate Yunnan province, which has been struck by heavy snowfalls since Thursday, a government official from the provincial disaster relief office told AFP.


Twelve people have died there, state Xinhua news agency reported, and four remained missing as of Saturday.


An ongoing record-long spell of cold weather in Vietnam's northern region, which started on Jan. 14, has killed nearly 60,000 cattle, mainly bull and buffalo calves, local press reported Monday. By Feb. 17, the spell had killed a total of 59,962 cattle in the region, including 7,349 in the Ha Giang province, 6,400 in Lao Cai, and 5,571 in Bac Can province, said Hoang Kim Giao, director of the Animal Husbandry Department under the Vietnamese Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development, according to the Pioneer newspaper.


In Britain the temperatures plunged to -10 C in central England, according to the Express, which reports that experts say that February could end up as one of the coldest in Britain in the past 10 years with the freezing night-time conditions expected to stay around a frigid -8 C until at least the middle of the week. And the BBC reports that a bus company's efforts to cut global warming emissions have led to services being disrupted by cold weather.


Meanwhile Athens News reports that a raging snow storm that blanketed most of Greece over the weekend and continued into the early morning hours on Monday, plunging the country into sub-zero temperatures. The agency reported that public transport buses were at a standstill on Monday in the wider Athens area, while ships remained in ports, public services remained closed, and schools and courthouses in the more severely-stricken prefectures were also closed.


Scores of villages, mainly on the island of Crete, and in the prefectures of Evia, Argolida, Arcadia, Lakonia, Viotia, and the Cyclades islands were snowed in.


More than 100 villages were snowed-in on the island of Crete and temperatures in Athens dropped to -6 C before dawn, while the coldest temperatures were recorded in Kozani, Grevena, Kastoria and Florina, where they plunged to -12 C.


Temperatures in Athens dropped to -6 C before dawn, while the coldest temperatures were recorded in Kozani, Grevena, Kastoria and Florina, where they plunged to -12 C.


If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.

You are missing the cause, I'm sure the man-made global warming whackados will be claiming all this is an aberration actually brought about by global warming, man-made, NATURALLY!!!!!!!!

David, one of your anti-global warming buddies has recently been quoted as saying:

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Jeremy,

NOAA hasn't exactly been a bastion of accurate assesment... and have been caught in several instance of politicizing issue.

If you guys want to make a legitimate argument, y'all might want to get on the same page.

Let's all rely on the bastion of truthfulnees, algore!!!!!!!!!!!
How many blatant lies did the English mandate be pointed out in his goofy movie??????????

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Originally posted by Jeremy J.:
David, one of your anti-global warming buddies has recently been quoted as saying:

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Jeremy,

NOAA hasn't exactly been a bastion of accurate assesment... and have been caught in several instance of politicizing issue.

If you guys want to make a legitimate argument, y'all might want to get on the same page.

So if the NOAA supports your argument they are the only experts that count. But when they start preaching the opposite they are no longer considered credible by Algores disciples?

I was unaware they had lost their credibility with their followers. I just thought it was amusing that a group of undisputable scientist that once thought we were in for a meltdown and considered a bastion of truthfulness by the worshipers of Algore were now telling us that the ice was reforming instead of melting, which was going to cause me to have to learn to swim.
I am having a hard time figuring out which side I should really be on.
I’m going to join Mike and wait for the year 11800 when the earth decides to start spinning in the other direction. LMFAO!!


Just yanking your chain Jeremy. You know I think its all a crock. I don't take it serious except when they try to get in my pocket!

Dave

Thats all its about Dave is $$$$$$$$$$$$

Y2K = $$$$$$$

Global warming BS = $$$$$$$

dumbya and the DRR Conservative views on Global Warming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOjfxEejS2Y

I don't know much about science. I do know that I've been colder this year than any that I remember. Maybe it's just old age creeping up.

I do think that a handle has to placed on pollution to some degree.

What we do in the U.S. won't make a hill of beans compared to what's going on in Red China.

Agreed Big Drag, What we and Europe are doing is taking 2 steps fwd, China is doing whatever they want as usual and are making us all take 3 steps back. They'll pay eventually.

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Agreed Big Drag, What we and Europe are doing is taking 2 steps fwd, China is doing whatever they want as usual and are making us all take 3 steps back. They'll pay eventually.

True. But I also think by the time the tree huggers get finished with us we will be paying as well.

We are probably the most or at least one of the most pollution conscience countries in the world. But for some reason it is never enough. The tree hugger seem to think if they get us to zero emission that will cure the worlds pollution problem. I'm tired of hearing them whine about it..

Never happen..

Dave

By the way BD that’s not cold your feeling it’s warming don’t ya know. The gauge has went all the way around and it’s starting back..lol

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Originally posted by David Covey:

We are probably the most or at least one of the most pollution conscience countries in the world. But for some reason it is never enough. The tree hugger seem to think if they get us to zero emission that will cure the worlds pollution problem. I'm tired of hearing them whine about it..

So why is it that we're the second dirtiest civilized country in the world? Upon until just recently, we were #1 for quite some time. Hell, even some third-world nations have been known to put us to shame as far as being environmentally friendly.

Been on the American hating ultra left-wing blogs again I see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Jeremy J.:

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Originally posted by David Covey:

We are probably the most or at least one of the most pollution conscience countries in the world. But for some reason it is never enough. The tree hugger seem to think if they get us to zero emission that will cure the worlds pollution problem. I'm tired of hearing them whine about it..

So why is it that we're the second dirtiest civilized country in the world? Upon until just recently, we were #1 for quite some time. Hell, even some third-world nations have been known to put us to shame as far as being environmentally friendly.

I guess they have convinced the tree huggers that when they sh1t in the woods it's really to help the environment...

Jeremy I would think those third world countries would need to have some sort of industry or the means to pollute before they could be worse than we are. Hard to pollute when you don’t even have the means to rub two sticks together.

Lets look at China or Russia for an example.Are you saying they pollute less than we do?

Or I guess we could go to some semi socialist country like France or Germany. I will say I like part of what Germany does. Germany does something we don't do...Manage their forrests so they don't burn down every year..

Yeah I want to be like them. NOT..

And, if what you said is true then maybe it would be a good thing to eleminate the EPA since it's just another worthless government organization.



Dave

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even some third-world nations have been known

Half the size, half the people, and probably not as advanced.