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Why aluminum rods? This is why, would you rather hit your crank with a steal hammer or aluminum one? My rods come out every 30-40 runs and new go in. They are cheap and part of racing a on the edge engine.
You do not put them in the oven and set the clearances! Aluminum rods are run on the loose side, Why! This is why, after a few runs you will find the clearance gets tighter at the parting line of the rod. after a few runs you may loose a thou. If you run tight, you will loose a rod and crank. How loose, I start at 0.0055 Aluminum rods are fine to run if you can afford them and know how and when to replace them. In high dollar racing they are expendable. I give my old ones away to fans in the pits at the races.
 
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The original post was asking about why would anyone run them in a normal bracket mot? Not talking Top Dragster or Top Alcohol motors which seem to be almost same now.
Really I think we are talking 800 to 1200 bracket motors not the 2500 or so blown motors.


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You are correct Curly, Bracket engines have changed. I also agree that a good normal rod will be just fine to run. For a guy that wants to run a season, don't waste your time.
 
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Why aluminum rods? This is why, would you rather hit your crank with a steal hammer or aluminum one? My rods come out every 30-40 runs and new go in. They are cheap and part of racing a on the edge engine.
You do not put them in the oven and set the clearances! Aluminum rods are run on the loose side, Why! This is why, after a few runs you will find the clearance gets tighter at the parting line of the rod. after a few runs you may loose a thou. If you run tight, you will loose a rod and crank. How loose, I start at 0.0055 Aluminum rods are fine to run if you can afford them and know how and when to replace them. In high dollar racing they are expendable. I give my old ones away to fans in the pits at the races.



Yes you do.

The clearances are set according to the oil, obviously you're talking blown alcohol, using 60 70 wt oil. With the rods thrown in the stands at 30 - 40 laps.

I'm talking hypothetically, if I ran aluminum rods in my sbc Super Pro bracket racing, which I could do no problem, 120 140 laps, by bringing everything in play to operating temperature, and setting clearances tight for 30 wt oil. The tight clearance at the parting line after a few runs, is not an issue either, do you know how to adjust for that? Guess not.

The fashion in which you're proposing, would make a n/a sbc with aluminum rods a ticking time bomb. That's not how i'd do it, but have at it.
 
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You are correct Mike, I know nothing.
 
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You're putting words in my mouth.

You're talking blown alcohol, I'm talking sbc.
 
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I’ve ran aluminum rods in my little 14-1 quarter mile bracket 355 exclusively. 2 sets of manley’s both had 225-250 passes, 2 sets of MGP 1st set had 625 passes and the second set is installed with 0 passes yet but has been siting assembled for almost 3 yrs. have my reasons and beliefs...next time around I’ll probably spend on a killer set of light steel.
 
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Best reason so far I have seen here to run aluminum rods. Ed said not to use them. Kind of like when a democrat tells you something. The opposite is what you should be doing.




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I wouldn't build an aluminum rodded motor for true bracket racing but I would love to have driven one of those destroked high winding small block 5 speed cars I grew up with. My good friends wife car has aluminum rods in an old super gas Camaro 327 motor super light car. It is way overdue for a change but it probably has well over 600 or 700 passes on it. I would never recommend that and I'm sure we are on borrowed times x3.


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Best reason so far I have seen here to run aluminum rods. Ed said not to use them.

The only way your pile of shyt wins a round at a real bracket race is if your competitor breaks before staging. Laughing very hard Spitting

Same clueless nobody asking on forum about lifters for a hemi rather than call the foremost expect in the country. Didn't think of that
 
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Sounds like you are speaking from your past experience Ed.




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Anytime you want to compare Wallys and big checks no mind cars let me know! NahNahTounge
 
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Anytime you want to compare Wallys and big checks no mind cars let me know! NahNahTounge


Serious question,I was always under the impression you raced footbrake, street, no electronics whatever you prefer to call it.

Is my impression wrong? Did you win a wally Super Street racing? or are you talking about the Wally your driver won?

I'm curious
 
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Serious question, when are you going drag your POS with triple chrome plated bumpers out and put it in the other lane opposite me? I’ll be at Piedmont in November again for the Door Car Nationals. You can start with the excuses now cause we both know you ain’t be there.
 
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Serious question, when are you going drag your POS with triple chrome plated bumpers out and put it in the other lane opposite me? I’ll be at Piedmont in November again for the Door Car Nationals. You can start with the excuses now cause we both know you ain’t be there.


Ed, you're not anyone I'm interested in racing. I might pull up on Scotty Richardson, because there's something to gain, like experience. You're like the fat chic in the pinto dial'd 8.19, I'd avoid.

Seriously.
 
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Now, if you told me you won 50 wally's Super Street racing when I inquired, that would most likely change.
 
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Mickey Non-one here thought for a moment you might show up to get your azz handed to you. NahNahTounge
 
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I prefer racing people who are better than I, Ed. I'm not a bully.

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I am! You’ve been racing at your local duck pond your entire brief bracket racing career.
 
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I prefer racing people who are better than I, Ed. I'm not a bully.


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