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Tell me again; Why did we get rid of those Cemterlines?? lol...


sad to say that my centerlines are 20++ years old and are still hanging in there. i would like to upgrade all four but the price of wheels these days keep me on what i am on.

thanks for posting this up 1290 very good catch and sharing of information. that could have got ugly real quick.

ep-the secret to wheels is to keep them covered in brake dust. mine look powder coated.
 
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I'd say keep putting broke d1ick wheels back on it if they are working that well. What could go wrong?


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400 passes would be 2-2.5 years for me. So a $1400-$1500 set of wheels every third year? That's gonna be a no for me!
 
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I do not care where they are made if they are breaking like that then I am going to choose a different style, brand or even where they are made but not going to keep doing same thing.

I do agree it is probably the side loads from turning more than wheelies.

Many of those wheels have broke and it could not just cost you a set of wheels but your whole car or even get hurt or killed.


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Yea seriously thinking about having my Centerlines just Powder-coated gloss black, they're just the flat face ones and I've seen some of those that are completely gloss black that look really good and they are EXTREMELY light..


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everyone I speak to says it's not the wheelies, rather side loading of the wheels when turning. Further, their are some that think it's due to turning off the track too quickly and others that feel it's due to turning too slow or turning the wheel without rolling. It's all conjecture. Bottomline I ain't alone with this issue with this wheel and Weld is no help, to say why they are failing or making it right and it's not just this wheel.

That said, a friend of mine has the same car, the same wheel and his are 11 years old. What's not the same is he has a small block under the hood and only races S/ST so no wheelies.

I've got 1783 lbs. on the front tires/wheels


For what it's worth, due to the design of these wheels, both turning and landing from wheelies provide loads that bend parts of that wheel vs push/pull types of loads. So depending of how hard the car lands, wheelies shock loads could well exceed turn loads on the interior portion of those wheels. Either way, they are not strong enough to withstand the loads as they have proven with past failures. The geometry of a star wheel is a stronger design vs these wheels, apples to apples.
 
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I agree and have decided to use this wheel moving forward



based on the fact that the majority of super stockers today are using this wheel or a competitor’s version of it.
 
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I have Weld Alumastars on the new SST rig, mainly due to the issues with V series and Magnums. New S/ST rig ain't lite. I have seen two pairs break personally both were turning one off the track and the second in the pits. One of the cars NEVER wheelied more than an inch or two. I ran Gold Magnums on the last S/St car and never had an issue. They were purchased n 2004 and are still on that car now. It was just under 3K lbs. I think it seems to be pretty hit and miss with them. I also wondered how much of a roll brake heat plays in the outcome?


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my first pair, also purchased in 2004 when the car was built, failed 13 years later and every pass was a wheels up launch and they had somewhere around 1800 passes on them. This pair on the car since the start of 2018 had around 400 passses on them and maybe half of them were a wheels up launch before they failed.
 
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Originally posted by S/S Dart:
Tell me again; Why did we get rid of those Cemterlines?? lol...


sad to say that my centerlines are 20++ years old and are still hanging in there. i would like to upgrade all four but the price of wheels these days keep me on what i am on.

thanks for posting this up 1290 very good catch and sharing of information. that could have got ugly real quick.

ep-the secret to wheels is to keep them covered in brake dust. mine look powder coated.
I bet that new 100,000 dolla top sportsman is riding on new wheels….
 
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Originally posted by 1320racer:
I agree and have decided to use this wheel moving forward



based on the fact that the majority of super stockers today are using this wheel or a competitor’s version of it.


I think that is a better looking wheel anyway and does not have the reputation of breaking.


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"Dunning-Kruger Effect"
-a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge.

Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue.

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Originally posted by pauley:
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Originally posted by S/S Dart:
Tell me again; Why did we get rid of those Cemterlines?? lol...


sad to say that my centerlines are 20++ years old and are still hanging in there. i would like to upgrade all four but the price of wheels these days keep me on what i am on.

thanks for posting this up 1290 very good catch and sharing of information. that could have got ugly real quick.

ep-the secret to wheels is to keep them covered in brake dust. mine look powder coated.
I bet that new 100,000 dolla top sportsman is riding on new wheels….


Kind of whomper. Front are new. Rears are rickie smith take off double bead lock bought at a smoking deal.

ep-got to save where I can
 
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Sorry to hear that Ed. FTD could have custom engraved them for you with 1320racer on them and you would have been supporting an American Company too. But hey you've only broken 2 sets, I see why you went back.

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Just a gratuitous picture post. But here is my new S/ST ride we currently are changing from show pooch to racecar. With the aforementioned Alumatars



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Al nice looking truck, wheel looks good on it.

Scott, ALL the companies I support, whose parts are used on my race cars are American companies, Weld and your’s are two of them. Further, Weld is an NHRA contingency sponsor too who has sent us checks.

That said, 1320racer only exists in the minds and hearts of those posting here.
 
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We certainly appreciate the business Ed. American Company and Made in USA are 2 different things.

SL...
 
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I agree and my Weld wheels are made in the USA.
 
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