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| DRR Sportsman |
Yep -- I have a car right now with brand new pro 1 belts in it. Its sat in the corner for 2 years, and will sit out until next season. Why are the belts unusable due to the tag being expired? They've literally never been clipped together.... | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
The more I read about this subject the more I am compelled to make a comment about the "Two Year" safety belt inspection issue. As I understand it, the NHRA's reasoning/position for rectifying safety belts every other year is due to the amount of time the car sits exposed to the sun. Their position is that the sun is responsible for the deterioration of the belts so therefore they should be re-belted and re-certified every two years. As I think about it it certainly does reduce my confidence in the quality of the material, and for that matter the belt. While I appreciate the income these inspections create for the Manufacturer's it bothers me that the material lasts for such a brief period while exposed to the elements. I, for one store my car (a roadster) in a trailer and out of the sun for about 98% of the year. For the life of me I can't find any benefit in requiring them to be re-built every two years. I believe that I represent the vast majority of drag racers, this is simply an income stream and in reality not a safety benefit. It's time for the NHRA to make a change. Bob | |||
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DRR Pro |
5-year, or 10-year belts will be priced accordingly by the remaining manufacturers. You ever think it might be connected to the safety equipment manufacturer's liability insurance coverage? The way y'all are carrying on, I can't figure out why one of you doesn't start a sanctioning body, or a seat belt company. Make $$$$. Do we really want to die for a $150 hill folks?  "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
I was a tech inspector for years for my local track and nhra Div2. I held both bronze then later a silver sfi certificate. That said some of you would probably be surprised at how bad some peoples belts really are. A lot of the less than two years old. I don’t even want to talk about some of the mountings and hardware used. Just say I saw a LOT of sketchy stuff done in building a lot of cars. Some of which at first glance you would think is a nice well built car. | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
Send them back to Jeff, and they will recert them. You have to put in the effort, to get anything out of it. | |||
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DRR Top Comp |
I agree there Jeff will take good care of you. with that said he did not make the NHRA rules. I do not care what anyone says I think the seatbelt rule is a NHRA kickback money grab. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
Does the IHRA get the same kickback? They have the same rule and more tracks. | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
I've sold several 2 year old sets to roundy round guys that would use them for a couple more years. And why is it that I could race my car with original stock seat and 30 year old belts but as soon as I put a race seat in I have to buy belts that are only good for 2 years ? | |||
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DRR Top Comp |
$$$ America home of free. Brought to you by 2nd amendment. | |||
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DRR Pro |
The money we spend on these cars are we really *****ing about seat belts? Lmfao.... "Just Shut Up and Race" Brian Martin Martin Racing 5.66 @121.55 | |||
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| DRR Elite |
only the broke dycks! Happy New Year Brian | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
Like the broke dycks that buy offshore cars to save money....  . Dave F J B | |||
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| DRR Elite |
I get what you are saying. But where does that argument end? You can use that on literally every part on the race car, particularly safety parts. Should we replace the belts annually? Why not? The cost is small compared to the rest of the car right? I am kinda torn about the tech thing. On one hand, we can't have a slew of deaths in our sport, and not expect it to impact our tracks and our costs. It will. So we can't let anything go. And we also can't let things go that would impact the car in the other lane. But focusing on the things that pay the biggest dividends seems like it would be practical. Are the belts in good shape and being worn correctly? (I knew a fella who perished in a crash he should have certainly survived, because he wore his belts loose.) Is the chassis in solid condition overall? Is there an oil containment device? Is the helmet appropriate? Is the car built to avoid fires and is the driver afforded some protection if a fire happens? And will the balancer or flywheel injure an onlooker? Hit the peaks and be done with it. Maybe an annual tech that is done by someone who can tech them for regional tracks? Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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| DRR Pro |
You got that right...lol Happy New Year Ed "Just Shut Up and Race" Brian Martin Martin Racing 5.66 @121.55 | |||
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| DRR Pro |
Morons will always be part of life and racing is included... You can watch videos on youtube on countless accounts making passes without proper saftey gear... **** a guy that use to post here a ton his son has a no prep s-10. Last week throttle hung in testing. No fire suit no gloves.. Truck runs low 5's in the 1/8 could of been real bad if 1 thing goes bad... But its on his youtube account for the world to see. I dont want anyone to get hurt especially if a few hundred bucks of gear would of saved you. Just stupid we have all seen **** go bad at the track and it happens way to fast. You can't fix stupid ,but i will keep buying belts and gear they want me to so i can race. I would love to see a year long tech sticker from nhra and ihra that lasts the year.. "Just Shut Up and Race" Brian Martin Martin Racing 5.66 @121.55 | |||
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| DRR Elite |
Nope and the lanes where ever you race are full of STUPID. So will I and new Simpson belts will be ordered soon for the 2022 season. | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
I send mine back to Crowe every 2 years. I still have the set recerted last year sitting in the seat. We haven't been out so I haven't installed them yet. The way it's going I might just install them when I sell the truck. It's either quit racing or move to another state. Commiefornia is shutting us out. Only good thing is what we have doesn't depreciate.  | |||
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| DRR Elite |
How much good does a new belt do when the driver is half hanging out of the cage at the finish line? I notice on the New Year Nationals coverage there is no finish line camera. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
After 20 years of membership, I did not renew mine last year. All the tracks I race at are either IHRA of Independents. NHRA sucks so much money out of you with a license/membership I just couldn't bring myself to renew it. IHRA has such a better bracket program. | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
I've been an NHRA license holder since 1998 and never once have I been asked to show it. I have never ran a National event, so I cannot speak to that portion, but I have ran several divisionals. | |||
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