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Would have, should have and could haves aside, the bottom line is, thankfully, no one was hurt.

I respect the parents for acknowledging (publicly) that mistakes may have been made by their young driver (one made by many older / more experienced drivers, I might add), and if that's the kind of people they are, I think they should be given the benefit of the doubt that their decision to put their son in another car was a thoughtful one. I think the driver's performance over the following rounds supports that decision as well, as he was obviously up to the challenge.

Sorry about the car. Glad the kid's ok. Congratulations on a great result.

The list of racers whose dreams of the day were crushed by Kenny Underwood remains long, and distinguished.
 
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watch a world of outlaws race,flip over fence team is already getting other chassis ready.sorry accidents happen.Awesome job,Randy has final say in all million race rules.if you don't like it Folk you like the plate say's
 
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Is Montgomery still a NHRA track? If so shouldn't he be disqualified for excessive braking. Normally not a big deal, but with that kinda money on the line. If I was in the other lane I believe I would be asking questions.
 
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It makes for a good story line no doubt clapping
 
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No mention whatsoever of excessive braking. To my knowledge the Folks Rent the track and it is their rules for the event.

As a whole, I think the drops are getting a little excessive in bracket racing in general. I have raced on that track in a car faster than the one Cory was in and I know it gets a little sketchy on the big end of the track in those weather conditions. The kid f***ed up, admitted it, and moved forward. I am actually not shocked the kid got back in the car, as much as I am that momma let him. But that is the Gulitti's decision not all of us Monday morning drivers. I just hope that ALL racers look at this, and maybe think a little harder before they put a dial in on the car that would put you in a spot to ****-nail the brakes like that. Congrats Gulitti Family, that was an awesome showing, and to beat Scotty the next round says the kid has some talent.


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Is Montgomery still a NHRA track? If so shouldn't he be disqualified for excessive braking. Normally not a big deal, but with that kinda money on the line. If I was in the other lane I believe I would be asking questions.


This is not *HRA racing...it is BIG MONEY Bracket Racing. The promoters of these events run very safe races but also know when this much money is on the line to let these guys and gals be racers.

Speaking as a father whose son has also wadded up a car drag racing, I think Cory did a fantastic job recovering from the accident and his folks made what they thought was the best decision for Cory.

Cory is not the first one to do this and won't be the last. What is different about this is that both Cory and his dad right away said that mistakes were made and that a valuable lesson was learned. That's something a lot of others never did in this same situation and there some out there are not capable of admitting to their mistakes when they happen.

Congrats to Kenny for the win and Cory for R/U.
 
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Is Montgomery still a NHRA track? If so shouldn't he be disqualified for excessive braking. Normally not a big deal, but with that kinda money on the line. If I was in the other lane I believe I would be asking questions.


His opponent is one of the best in the business at finish line parking, I've seen it first hand....not gona hear anything from him I'd bet.
 
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Think only NHRA rule that applies is car must have diaper...
 
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This is bracket racing! show me a racer that drives it out the back door and I'll show you a racer that has probably never won a race!!!
 
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I think track temp and dew point may have been more of an issue here than hard braking. It does not take much as it gets close to the dew point and once it starts it may too late to reel it in. I have seen it several times and experienced it first hand. When the track does that the starting line may still be good but further down track you get the worse it gets and groove gets real narrow.


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D*mn you all for making me care enough to really want to know which dragster was going to win the final round. I was up until the wee hours of Monday morning glued to my computer screen. Mad Wink Well done young man. Not worthy

As for the excessive top end braking issue, I'll stay with my original opinion. Your stuff can do cartwheels on your side of the track and it's all good. Cross over into my lane and get tangled up with me, and you better just go on and kill me or at least cripple me. Take care. Tom Worthington


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Is Montgomery still a NHRA track? If so shouldn't he be disqualified for excessive braking. Normally not a big deal, but with that kinda money on the line. If I was in the other lane I believe I would be asking questions.


This is not *HRA racing...it is BIG MONEY Bracket Racing. The promoters of these events run very safe races but also know when this much money is on the line to let these guys and gals be racers.

Speaking as a father whose son has also wadded up a car drag racing, I think Cory did a fantastic job recovering from the accident and his folks made what they thought was the best decision for Cory.

Cory is not the first one to do this and won't be the last. What is different about this is that both Cory and his dad right away said that mistakes were made and that a valuable lesson was learned. That's something a lot of others never did in this same situation and there some out there are not capable of admitting to their mistakes when they happen.

Congrats to Kenny for the win and Cory for R/U.


I know it's not a NHRA race, but "IF" the track is sanctioned by NHRA they are supposed to follow the rules or risk losing the sanction and insurance. Remember the race at Indy when some of the racers didn't have proper license and it was moved to Muncie. Not trying to disrespect what this young man accomplished he definitely has talents to make it that far, just wanting to know how the rules are interpreted.
 
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Have to be OWNED by NHRA like Atlanta...then they would have only been 40 cars there...
 
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https://themilliononline.com/race-rules/

No mention whatsoever of excessive braking. To my knowledge the Folks Rent the track and it is their rules for the event.

As a whole, I think the drops are getting a little excessive in bracket racing in general. I have raced on that track in a car faster than the one Cory was in and I know it gets a little sketchy on the big end of the track in those weather conditions. The kid f***ed up, admitted it, and moved forward. I am actually not shocked the kid got back in the car, as much as I am that momma let him. But that is the Gulitti's decision not all of us Monday morning drivers. I just hope that ALL racers look at this, and maybe think a little harder before they put a dial in on the car that would put you in a spot to ****-nail the brakes like that. Congrats Gulitti Family, that was an awesome showing, and to beat Scotty the next round says the kid has some talent.


Dead on with 0. If your not the one in situation what you would do is speculation. Just like what you would do if you win tonight and walk away with almost a billion dollars. Me I will; do anything I damn will please when I win it.

Cory owning up to it proved more to me than him climbing back into car and still kicking butt.

Money is not main thing. But how many here would not have climb into another car if you could and go on with all that was a stake. Money yes,winning Million and add in going down as youngest ever to do so.Plus all the work to get to that point. I'm betting 995 would be on track next round.


IMO Chris(Torquin) has been very gentle with comments.Not living up to his Chris name.LMAO Now I am speculating since don't have akid. I am pretty sure I would done same thing. I wouldn't cheat my kid out of the chance. I wouldn't push him to do it but if possible I would give him chance.




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Guys, I am not gonna go to war over this...

The plan after the crash was to do a burnout and stage the car, if he "wanted" to race Scotty after that he could, if he chose not to, his parents were fine with it. If he did decide to run it he was to lift at the mph cone with no braking and we felt it would run what we had on it lifting.

We had to stage to be in the split, I knew after my kid did a 200 foot burnout and backed up revving the motor it was on like Donkey Kong. He did not beat Scotty, Scotty had to run his door car out as Cory was dialed 4.40's. Scotty drove well and we banked on him breaking out...he broke out and the kid was 12 in the tree and 4 hun off. The kid then takes out Ried who is 5 take 4 for the L as Cory was 000 4 thou under.

The plan came together as Underwood offers a 125k to win and 100k to lose...we gleefully accepted and the rest is history. Win or lose the million my kid overcame major hurdles and focused in on his task at hand. He lost in the final and he is still a winner to us (his parents).

I will not quarrel with anyone on our decisions as it is our business and will remain so. This site is my internet home and thanks to all that comment on my son...good or bad.

Still driving home and wiped out is an understatement.
 
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Wins the semis by .001, Ried probably wants to burn that timeslip!

Congrats to Cory for getting back in another car and finishing the race!

And HUGE congrats to Kenny for winning the race!

And I have to say that Kenny had the balls to wait until the final to talk about splits!
 
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Guys, I am not gonna go to war over this...

The plan after the crash was to do a burnout and stage the car, if he "wanted" to race Scotty after that he could, if he chose not to, his parents were fine with it. If he did decide to run it he was to lift at the mph cone with no braking and we felt it would run what we had on it lifting.

We had to stage to be in the split, I knew after my kid did a 200 foot burnout and backed up revving the motor it was on like Donkey Kong. He did not beat Scotty, Scotty had to run his door car out as Cory was dialed 4.40's. Scotty drove well and we banked on him breaking out...he broke out and the kid was 12 in the tree and 4 hun off. The kid then takes out Ried who is 5 take 4 for the L as Cory was 000 4 thou under.

The plan came together as Underwood offers a 125k to win and 100k to lose...we gleefully accepted and the rest is history. Win or lose the million my kid overcame major hurdles and focused in on his task at hand. He lost in the final and he is still a winner to us (his parents).

I will not quarrel with anyone on our decisions as it is our business and will remain so. This site is my internet home and thanks to all that comment on my son...good or bad.

Still driving home and wiped out is an understatement.


Chris, you have no one to answer to or argue with but Momma. Sounds like you 2 were on the same page so you're in good shape. LOL



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Torquin, you do not have to go to war with us. Most of us support you and are proud of Cory.

You are right and I like that Cory got right back in the saddle.

I am glad it worked out okay and you got some money to try to repair the car.


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Guys, I am not gonna go to war over this

I will not quarrel with anyone on our decisions as it is our business and will remain so. This site is my internet home and thanks to all that comment on my son...good or bad.

Still driving home and wiped out is an understatement.


Geez, where’s the fun in that, not quarreling... where’s Ed?

Nice job last weekend


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All races are 1/8 mile.
Throttle stops allowed/no stutter boxes.
Slew rate controls are prohibited.
Random car inspections may be performed at any time.
MSD Ignition box 7531 is prohibited.
Autostart and crosstalk in effect.
Door cars and dragsters called to lanes separate, first 5 rounds in all races.
Buy Backs First Round Only.
All buybacks race each other in a separate round before advancing to second round.
Two drivers may drive one car.
One driver can drive 2 cars but NOT the same car twice.
A car and/or driver can only go down the track 2 times total, entering more than 2 times is not allowed for car or driver.
Bye run is pulled by random first round.
Best reaction time gets the bye run after first round (closest to dial tiebreaker).
(1) bye run per driver unless everyone has had one.
Bye run carries over into the next round if not used.
A ladder will start at 8 cars, new ladder each round based off of reaction times.
The bye run from the round before goes to the bottom of the ladder.
Diapers are mandatory, they will be for sale and assistance available at the event.
If it is physically impossible to get a diaper on your car you will be allowed to race.
If we have a rainout during a round, we will go to the previously completed round and split all purse money equally.
If you win a round and your car breaks you may switch cars with a race directors approval, if you get caught switching without approval you will be disqualified.
3% charge will apply to anyone using a credit card.
All rules and schedules are subject to change per Folk Promotions discretion.
Quarterfinal or better tech inspections and random tech inspections will be performed at any time throughout the entire race weekend.

These are copied off of the Million's website.
You can literally do ANYTHING else as these are the ONLY rules!!! Wear you suit or not, have something that manipulates the tree or not, have something that manipulates the car...as long as it is not a 7531 or a slew rate controller. Dump and wreck, not against the rules. There is no cheating or anything as the above are the ONLY rules. It's like someone said, back room poker!

The Gulitti's did absolutely nothing against the rules period!!! My daughter wrecked at St. Louis this weekend, luckily like Cory, she was perfectly fine. If she was racing in her SC car instead of me, she would have raced the next round no question at all! I totally get and agree with their decision to let him race under the given rules.


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