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Originally posted by qtrrcr:
Reminds me of " were taking you someplace safe, someplace secure, for your protection"

Get on the Train just like the Jews did in Nazi Germany.

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Originally posted by 442OLDS:
https://m.theepochtimes.com/pe..._source=facebook.com

A friend of mine who had Covid last year (and was hospitalized for a while) just tested positive again. I have no doubt that there's false positives but he's got the same symptoms, including loss of taste and smell that he had last year.

I think much of the Covid hype is simply a fear campaign....However, I lost a cousin to Covid that was healthy before contracting it.


Regarding the vaccine. If you trust your Doctor ask them if you should get it. If you don't trust your Doctor, find another Doctor.

Trusting doctor is like trusting lawyer, You trust them, but keep eye on the money as it changes peoples ideas and loyalty's.

Madness.

Originally posted by n5ifi:
The US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:
0-19 99.997%
20-49 99.98%
50-69 99.5%

F.D.A. Will Attach Warning of Rare Nerve Syndrome to Johnson & Johnson Vaccine.

Latest news on the experimental vaccine.

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Originally posted by Floyd Staggs:
F.D.A. Will Attach Warning of Rare Nerve Syndrome to Johnson & Johnson Vaccine.

Latest news on the experimental vaccine.

Copied,
"The FDA is planning to release a new warning that the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine is linked to a rare autoimmune disease
Officials say there have been 100 reports of patients developing Guillain-Barré syndrome, a rare disorder that temporarily paralyzes parts of the body
Most the cases have occurred about two weeks after vaccination and mostly in men aged 50 and older
Guillain-Barré is very rare after vaccination, occurring in just 0.000781% of patients who have received J&J's one-dose shot
The warning presents another setback for the company, which has been plagued by challenges including a pause due to rare blood clots and ingredient mix-ups"

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Originally posted by wideopen231:
Trusting doctor is like trusting lawyer, You trust them, but keep eye on the money as it changes peoples ideas and loyalty's.

Honestly I like my dr. He's into motorsports and is down to earth, and socially conservative for the most part. But man the folks in his circles must squawk non stop about how bad Trump is and how important the vaccine is for everyone to get. He's fully bought in on that ****. Make no mistake, he works the hospital on call and saw a lot of covid deals that went bad locally....many were his patients. So that is bound to affect your view on the vaccine. But when it comes to politics, and vaccinating children.....well that's fully bought in IMO. It's not that I don't trust him overall. I just think his judgement is clouded when it comes to this topic.

if you think a syringe with stuff in it may be bad wait till 3 qts of unknown supposibly antibody juice is put in you at the er ...

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Originally posted by Bucky:
the folks in his circles must squawk non stop about how bad Trump is and how important the vaccine is for everyone to get.

You know who else knew how important vaccines were? Trump.

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You know who else knew how important vaccines were? Trump.

And look who was feeding him his information, Fauci. A wolf in sheep's clothing for Trump. Just like all the other executive branch bureaucracies. I fantasized he would take a machete to those bureaus after his reelection, unleash the beast like obama, but they cut his legs out from under him.

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
the folks in his circles must squawk non stop about how bad Trump is and how important the vaccine is for everyone to get.

You know who else knew how important vaccines were? Trump.

Read my statement carefully. I believe the vaccine IS important. But vaccinating EVERYONE is completely unneeded. In fact, it's risky behavior for a country to put all of their eggs in a certain basket IMO. The worst case scenario, while unlikely, could be devastating to our country. Why push this vaccine on those who do not want it? For all practical purposes, we are at herd immunity already. And those who want protection, can get it.

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Originally posted by Bucky:
I believe the vaccine IS important. But vaccinating EVERYONE is completely unneeded. In fact, it's risky behavior for a country to put all of their eggs in a certain basket IMO. The worst case scenario, while unlikely, could be devastating to our country. Why push this vaccine on those who do not want it? For all practical purposes, we are at herd immunity already. And those who want protection, can get it.

Agreed. I'm in the camp of I've already had covid and thus already have natural antibodies. It's bizarre to me that people have completely ignored the basic science of how and why vaccines work in the first place: the body's natural reaction to infection. It's equally bizarre to me the wild conspiracy theorists and hair-on-fire reactions to vaccines as if they were something completely alien.

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
I believe the vaccine IS important. But vaccinating EVERYONE is completely unneeded. In fact, it's risky behavior for a country to put all of their eggs in a certain basket IMO. The worst case scenario, while unlikely, could be devastating to our country. Why push this vaccine on those who do not want it? For all practical purposes, we are at herd immunity already. And those who want protection, can get it.

Agreed. I'm in the camp of I've already had covid and thus already have natural antibodies. It's bizarre to me that people have completely ignored the basic science of how and why vaccines work in the first place: the body's natural reaction to infection. It's equally bizarre to me the wild conspiracy theorists and hair-on-fire reactions to vaccines as if they were something completely alien.

People act like they haven’t received vaccines their entire life without issue

Food for thought….

My brother in law just told us that a 32 y/o friend of his son, married with a new baby, just got his 2nd shot and died of a heart attack the next day.

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:

It's equally bizarre to me the wild conspiracy theorists and hair-on-fire reactions to vaccines as if they were something completely alien.

Not to worry because the champions of our civil liberties wants to fact check our private messages....

Biden allied groups, including the Democratic National Committee, are also planning to engage fact-checkers more aggressively and work with SMS carriers to dispel misinformation about vaccines that is sent over social media and text messages.

https://www.politico.com/news/...tion-campaign-499278

For me, you don't know what you don't know. Yes we have had vaccines, and RNA vaccines aren't exactly new. But we haven't had THIS vaccine. The fact of the matter is that we are treating a virus that killed a small % of our population and infected probably 13% of it, with a preventative that we have zero experience with specifically. Our current situation is that roughly half of our country has had the jab, and the virus is for most practical purposes is under control. Why the big push to jab everyone else? What is the benefit vs the risks from here forward?

Get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from the virus they got vaccinated against because you're not vaccinated.

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Originally posted by Bucky:
Why the big push to jab everyone else? What is the benefit vs the risks from here forward?

Virus mutation is one. The more it grows and mutates the harder it can be to get a handle on. Just a thought.