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Originally posted by wideopen231:
Was he wrong , yes. Was it near the big deal being made of it,hell no. People tend to hate a rich winner.

Hes net worth has nothing to do with what the fine should be. If Warren Buffet and I both get a speeding ticket in same town,Should the fine be $100,000 for him and $10 for me?

That seems fair!!! LOL

From the day he made that SA remark about Salinas
with the Bike deal for the crew. Done. Salinas wasn't born with a silver spoon. A Plain hard working man like all of us in here.

So if Steve puts in 10 or 12 hour days at the office he isn't a hard worker because he isn't out on the line welding or running equipment? The company is not that old, and there are only a handful in the office so I am sure he puts in long hours there.

But anyway, not to defend his actions, he clearly has a temper that needs addressed which the NHRA has taken him to task on. If he takes the courses seriously and betters himself, great, if not, well then go ahead and continue to torch him.

For me, it does not matter how hard he works, how much money he has, or how many classes his family sponsors...

All that matters to me is that he is treated EXACTLY the same as EVERY other racer under similar circumstances.

FTR, it was not much of a dust up, but it sure was an embarrassing tantrum by physically small feller. Sure hope those anger management classes do the trick before he tries that stunt on a full size racer that has no issues with returning the favor....

No ill will here. I really wish him the best.
Sincerely.

It has nothing to do with how much money he has.....If the kid had walked up and did the same thing would he of got the same punishment....Hell no!! And you all know damn well it would of been different. What about a sportsman racer? Tossed from event, no points etc. Etc. I don't give a **** if he ****s gold nuggets, that's great but you shouldn't be treated any different. A full time professional should be held to a higher standard period.

BTW.... if the kid "didn't have a chance" why go throw that girly a$$ face push or whatever the hell you call that?

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Originally posted by wideopen231:

The fact he got caught taking out of kitty when at AJPE racing probably he nothing to with it in long run.

And you have proof of that?

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Originally posted by TD3550:
From the day he made that SA remark about Salinas
with the Bike deal for the crew. Done. Salinas wasn't born with a silver spoon. A Plain hard working man like all of us in here.

The Torrence family built a business and earned their money to. Which one is worth more money? Do not know or care one bit. I do not care how much of their money they budget for racing that is their business. I am very impressed with both family's. Really impressed with the Salinas girl who fell off her Pro Stock Bike at the finish line and raced again. A lot of us may not have ever raced again. Like him or not Steve Torrence is a very good racer and he is emotional about it like John force. Many of you who hate Force also do not like Torrence. I think John Force has paid his dues and earned his titles.

I like most all of the racers except the cry baby Pedregons.

We all agree that Torrence should not have done it but we differ on what to do about it. I think the $25,000 fine is about right. Seems some of you would like him taken out and shot.

X2

Doesn't matter how these race teams fund their team. Personally earned wealth, inherited, lottery winnings or sponsorship dollars, who cares? The method of funding (or for that matter size of team or time in the sport) should have nothing to do with what's acceptable and expected of a competitors conduct/behavior during the competition. There are rules of conduct that outline acceptable behavior and those rules were violated. Those rules should be ENFORCED CONSISTANTLY regardless of competition category/class or whether it is a professional or non professional competitor that's in violation of a rule. To the best of my understanding, those rules are written for all competitors who participate in a sanctioned event or at a sanctioned facility...



Dan

Maybe NHRA want the interviews at the end of the track to look like the counter at Popeyes LoL!

Maybe Torrence is working on a Popeyes chicken sandwich sponsorship?

Mike, that there gif was about the best i have seen in "YEARS" with that 300 LB Taco Bender. Sent to many. Best laugh with out a doubt.

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Originally posted by TD3550:
Mike, that there gif was about the best i have seen in "YEARS" with that 300 LB Taco Bender. Sent to many. Best laugh with out a doubt.

LoL!

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Originally posted by Mad Dog:
Doesn't matter how these race teams fund their team. Personally earned wealth, inherited, lottery winnings or sponsorship dollars, who cares? The method of funding (or for that matter size of team or time in the sport) should have nothing to do with what's acceptable and expected of a competitors conduct/behavior during the competition. There are rules of conduct that outline acceptable behavior and those rules were violated. Those rules should be ENFORCED CONSISTANTLY regardless of competition category/class or whether it is a professional or non professional competitor that's in violation of a rule. To the best of my understanding, those rules are written for all competitors who participate in a sanctioned event or at a sanctioned facility...



Dan

That said, what would consistency look like here?

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Originally posted by Mad Dog:
Doesn't matter how these race teams fund their team. Personally earned wealth, inherited, lottery winnings or sponsorship dollars, who cares? The method of funding (or for that matter size of team or time in the sport) should have nothing to do with what's acceptable and expected of a competitors conduct/behavior during the competition. There are rules of conduct that outline acceptable behavior and those rules were violated. Those rules should be ENFORCED CONSISTANTLY regardless of competition category/class or whether it is a professional or non professional competitor that's in violation of a rule. To the best of my understanding, those rules are written for all competitors who participate in a sanctioned event or at a sanctioned facility...



Dan

Back in the day you were either an American or a commie (liberal). The commie's were still in the closet.

Now that the commies (liberals) are out of the closet in numbers blurring the line between right and wrong, Americans are forced to make the common sense argument you're making, which once upon a time went without saying.

Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.

My take away on this was Tony Pedregon and his constant talking points about team racing and how bad it is since the fans paid to see competitive racing. Then he says that Ferre should step aside because he's in the way! What an idiot.
David

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Originally posted by davidsracing:
My take away on this was Tony Pedregon and his constant talking points about team racing and how bad it is since the fans paid to see competitive racing. Then he says that Ferre should step aside because he's in the way! What an idiot.
David

He heard a bracket racer say that on a Monday following not getting into the money in a 50k race with 400 entries / no buybacks, and somehow thought it applied to Top Fuel also, where you can grenade the rear tires at the hit of the throttle, out of the blue at just about any given time.

Yeah,I agree brilliant.

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Originally posted by Bucky:
That said, what would consistency look like here?

Given the precedent was set by NHRA to handle this situation the way they did, the answer would be: Twenty-Five Thousand reasons to NOT physically assault a fellow competitor...

Now, if you're fishing for my opinion of how it could have (note I didn't say should have) been handled differently:
DQ from event, loss of points for that event...

The level/amount of monetary fine would be based on the severity of the offense. Obviously a face palm (open handed physical contact) COULD be seen as less severe than a closed fisted hay-maker. That's the way I see it, my opinion, you reserve the right to have a different one...



Dan

I'd be willing to bet what ticked NHRA off the most was being put in that position, the last race of the year, in a points battle that close. If Torrence had done that at the Gators or some other time early in the season, I would hope the punishment would have been different and I would be very surprised if we see a lack of sportsmanship like that again!

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Originally posted by wideopen231:

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Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:

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And what about Larry Dixon? What did he do?

He had an expired chassis tag on dragster.

Kicked him out and shunned him forever.

The fact he got caught taking out of kitty when at AJPE racing probably he nothing to with it in long run.

Have never heard anything about this accusation. Where did you hear this from ?
Larry has always come across as a stand up guy, I would be very surprised if there was even an inkling that this could be true.