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nothing happened.



Pretty sure that's inaccurate, one driver intentionally ran into another driver's car causing damage, and then lied about it.


I'm speaking about in the moment fires were being put out.

Ya got Veruca Salt heavily invested with multiple entry's probably, saying her steering shaft broke, and everyone else who saw it, who knew that was a lie.

If you're Randy and you didn't see it, what would you do?


Watch the readily available freaking video and then throw his a$$ out. End of story.
 
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If something happened with all these accusations flying, Randy is looking at the steering shaft.

He never looked because nothing happened.
 
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EXACTLY! There is no excise for not throwing him out EXCEPT you don't want to lose all that money in entries from him and his boys!
 
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EXACTLY! There is no excise for not throwing him out EXCEPT you don't want to lose all that money in entries from him and his boys!


You're projecting yourself on Randy.

You don't even know him.
 
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I know all I need to know. There's no spinning this. The promotor did NOTHING!
 
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I know all I need to know. There's no spinning this. The promotor did NOTHING!


It has to be you're projecting yourself onto Randy, because you don't even know him.

I do know Randy, I've been in his home.

Randy doesn't do this for money, other than the money to continue on.
 
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I know all I need to know. There's no spinning this. The promotor did NOTHING!


It has to be you're projecting yourself onto Randy, because you don't even know him.

I do know Randy, I've been in his home.

Randy doesn't do this for money, other than the money to continue on.


So just to get your opinion here. Once the truth was told do you believe Randy should have kicked him out of the event or not?
 
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2 days later and HP is still there racing after admitting he lied and did infact willfully attempted to wreck his competitor. The promotor did nothing and still has done NOTHING! Nuff said
 
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Originally posted by Will Harrison:
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nothing happened.



Pretty sure that's inaccurate, one driver intentionally ran into another driver's car causing damage, and then lied about it.


I'm speaking about in the moment fires were being put out.

Ya got Veruca Salt heavily invested with multiple entry's probably, saying her steering shaft broke, and everyone else who saw it, who knew that was a lie.

If you're Randy and you didn't see it, what would you do?


Watch the readily available freaking video and then throw his a$$ out. End of story.


While he's putting out fires in which everyone is armed?

You won't be continuing on the following year, if things spin out of control.
 
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Chris Gulliti is actually publicly posting, blaming the other driver for throwing a whacka whacka after the finishline, which forced hunter to get mad and abruptly intentionally make a hard turn into the other lane and run into the other guy.

Lol thats the most absurd thing I've ever heard in my life.

And yes, hunter should be banned for a few years at minimum. And NHRA has that ability even if the promoter doesn't have the balls since these races are run at NHRA sanctioned tracks.


So you have a driver who intentionally hit another car after he lost and has admitted it and some think no big deal?

That is part of the problem some think that it does not matter what you do as long as you win.

I understand an accident and we all accept that risk. Still if you run into me intentionally then I will consider it assault with a deadly weapon and deal with it as such.

If all this is true then I think he should be banned for life same as if he shot at someone.

I will also say when you play dirty tricks to win then do not get pissed if it bites you. The other guy may have tricks to.


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The whole thing is a mess. It seems that just about every one of these big dollar races has one event that draws a lot of attention to the lack of rules and/or the enforcing of them.

If you are going to play starting line games at these events, you better know your competitor, cause sometimes when you mess with the wrong person it can come back to bite you at the other end.

As a former track manager and NHRA tech official, if a car is reported to have a problem with something as important as steering, then the car should be inspected by the head of tech before any decisions are made or the car is allowed to further compete at the event. If there was no problem found with the car, then it is up to the race manager to decide how to handle the situation.

It's a sad state of affairs when a race promoter makes the decision to allow someone who purposely hit another racers car on the racing surface to continue to compete at the event.
 
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I know all I need to know. There's no spinning this. The promotor did NOTHING!


It has to be you're projecting yourself onto Randy, because you don't even know him.

I do know Randy, I've been in his home.

Randy doesn't do this for money, other than the money to continue on.


So just to get your opinion here. Once the truth was told do you believe Randy should have kicked him out of the event or not?


It depends on Veruca Salt, if I believed Veruca learned a lesson, I might not throw her out.

I think these types of things can work themselves out, without government intervention.

If they're making excuses, like people are saying in here about Gulliti, ya gotta throw her out, maybe permanently.

Trey rips the throttle on everyone past the stripe when his win light is on, his dad does too. Nothing wrong with it.

Just don't let that happen. It's their trademark.
 
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2 days later and HP is still there racing after admitting he lied and did infact willfully attempted to wreck his competitor. The promotor did nothing and still has done NOTHING! Nuff said


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This is a big problem in society today. People wanting government to fix everything.

It can solve itself, all it takes is honesty - reflection on Veruca's part.

Also, let's not pretend Veruca couldn't crash into Trey, if she wanted to.
 
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This is a big problem in society today. People wanting government to fix everything.

It can solve itself, all it takes is honesty - reflection on Veruca's part.

Also, let's not pretend Veruca couldn't crash into Trey, if she wanted to.


You're such an idiot. It's about the young people having no respect whatsoever for rules and the truth. plain and simple. He lied and got away with it and could've injured or killed someone but that's ok with you.
 
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This is a big problem in society today. People wanting government to fix everything.

It can solve itself, all it takes is honesty - reflection on Veruca's part.

Also, let's not pretend Veruca couldn't crash into Trey, if she wanted to.


You're such an idiot. It's about the young people having no respect whatsoever for rules and the truth. plain and simple. He lied and got away with it and could've injured or killed someone but that's ok with you.


Everyone knows it was a lie by the video. You ain't there, you don't know anything. Maybe the fact Veruca admitted she lied, kept her from being thrown out.

I might make that deal with Veruca, were I Randy, because ultimately nothing happened.

I've had people do stupid chit past the stripe in a rage because they lost, I never expected them thrown out, suspended. I didn't run to the authorities.

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This is a big problem in society today. People wanting government to fix everything.

It can solve itself, all it takes is honesty - reflection on Veruca's part.

Also, let's not pretend Veruca couldn't crash into Trey, if she wanted to.


You're such an idiot. It's about the young people having no respect whatsoever for rules and the truth. plain and simple. He lied and got away with it and could've injured or killed someone but that's ok with you.


Everyone knows it was a lie by the video. You ain't there, you don't know anything. Maybe the fact Veruca admitted she lied, kept her from being thrown out.

I might make that deal with Veruca, were I Randy, because ultimately nothing happened.

I've had people do stupid chit past the stripe in a rage because they lost, I never expected them thrown out, suspended. I didn't run to the authorities.

Burch's dad drove his front wheels of his dragster under my back bumper after beating him twice in one night Sunshine, I laughed my azz off!

If you're scared, you're in the wrong game.


I don't need to be there it's as clear as the cone in front of your face. If Randy can't see that then oh well don't complain when your car counts go in the toilet.
 
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2 days later and HP is still there racing after admitting he lied and did infact willfully attempted to wreck his competitor. The promotor did nothing and still has done NOTHING! Nuff said


Big facts... Punks will be punks and that was a punk a$$ move. There is no defending this.


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If you think it’s ok because nothing bad happened then I guess you think anybody arrested for drunk driving who didn’t have anything bad happen should also be let off the hook. Waiting for something bad to happen before you take action will open the door wide open for lawsuit when something bad does happen.
 
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Nobody likes a liar. People can tolerate a lot and forgive a lot, but to lie when there's a video evidencing the incident, people won't tolerate insulting their intelligence. It's gas lighting.

Randy probably told him, you gotta tell the Truth, or you gotta go permanently.

That's what I would've done if he were a long time participant, and I knew his parents personally.
 
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