It seems to me this discussion has strayed from the issue...no matter what happened, long was completely wrong for wishing death on anyone...period...if he wanted to whine and cry about the police, fine...that is not what he did, which is the point...anyone that knows him is not surprised at his egotistical potty mouth rants...

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Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
It seems to me this discussion has strayed from the issue...no matter what happened, long was completely wrong for wishing death on anyone...period...if he wanted to whine and cry about the police, fine...that is not what he did, which is the point...anyone that knows him is not surprised at his egotistical potty mouth rants...

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
The guy has been an a$$ for a long time and he has the freedom to express whatever he feels like. He just doesn't have a protected right to say it without repercussion.

Contrary to the uttered bs above.

Although I disagree with the manner it was carried out, obviously in the heat of the moment. It should be pointed out you are the beneficiary anytime misconduct by authority is called out, resulting in progress. You and everyone else. The problem is not the calling out of misconduct. The problem is not enough are aware of the stakes, apparently.

The founders of this country encountered the same difficulties from the politically correct, when they told the English to go get F'd.

You think companies that sponsored his event will again? I am betting 10000% he heard from his them about his video and what he said.. He actully put his promoting and his races in a hole not sure he can climb out of.

The variables of how sponsors view this situation are this. And BTW I think it's an excellent point /question to look at.

The variables are this ... We live in western civilization and western civilization adheres to objectivity through rational thought. This is a western and masculine concept. Without objectivity through rational thought, there is no such thing as justice. In other words Justice doesn't / can't exist without Truth

This is the only variable. Whether or not sponsors adhere to Evidence.

Now what is the Evidence? The evidence is eyewitness reports from racers and spectators of misconduct which forced the promoter to instruct participants and spectators on FB to go five miles out of their way in order to avoid conflict getting to the track.

What is the Evidence on the promoter? He blew a gasket on video? Right?

How sponsors view this soley depends on whether or not they adhere to the principle of justice, Objectivity through rational thought. Evidence.

You can cuss the promoter, drag him through the mud and call him every name in the book but this comes down to who adheres to the principle of Justice Truth - Evidence, and who doesn't.

But remember this if you don't adhere to the principle of justice - Evidence - Truth. What you take away from another man, you also take away from yourself.

This is serious damning Evidence ya'll have brought to bare let me tell you! Incriminating the promoter of being human, blowing a gasket on video.

This is also why people shouldn't look to celebrities as role models.

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Dang Mike, does that guy have pictures of you and a hooker or something? LOL

You really should go into politics because you can use up more bandwidth without saying anything of substance than just about anyone on this site.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
Dang Mike, does that guy have pictures of you and a hooker or something? LOL

You really should go into politics because you can use up more bandwidth without saying anything of substance than just about anyone on this site.

YEP. He is a legend in his own mind. Yes Mike you won 7 track championships, but that was what 15 years ago?

Like I said in an earlier post Mike if you were not there personally or support his races other than holding up his sack, then STFU.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
Dang Mike, does that guy have pictures of you and a hooker or something? LOL

You really should go into politics because you can use up more bandwidth without saying anything of substance than just about anyone on this site.

LOL

Gonna say i think most will step away. I think i read on a facebook post someone tagged the Comp cams guy and he replied. Said they where very aware of the video. So yea

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Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
It seems to me this discussion has strayed from the issue...no matter what happened, long was completely wrong for wishing death on anyone...period...if he wanted to whine and cry about the police, fine...that is not what he did, which is the point...anyone that knows him is not surprised at his egotistical potty mouth rants...

Somewhere Puddin' is taking all this in laughing her a s s off.

So you follow Lenin and likes Hillary how does that have any bearing on the matter at hand?

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
So you follow Lenin and likes Hillary how does that have any bearing on the matter at hand?

Curtis, I think he just finally got to his actual agenda ref: posting here...

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
We will probably always fall on different sides of something like this because of my family associations.

There's only one reason to respond to Curtis, his previous admission of playing Identity politics. Playing Identity politics results in emotional conclusions on matters rather than rational ones.

What do you teach your kids Curtis? Whoever you don't like is automatically wrong irregardless of Evidence? Those are the same principles the National Socialist party Nazi's used to determine true, false, right and wrong.

It's also the same tactics the Lefties used on Trump to waste $45 million dollars, with their witch hunt.

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Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
It seems to me this discussion has strayed from the issue...no matter what happened, long was completely wrong for wishing death on anyone...period...if he wanted to whine and cry about the police, fine...that is not what he did, which is the point...anyone that knows him is not surprised at his egotistical potty mouth rants...

We established wishing death on others is wrong pages ago, that's nothing more than common sense.

My question is, what is the serious crime here? What are we talking about here besides a bunch of nothing? If it's indicting a promoter for getting ticked off because he had to instruct racers and spectators to go five miles out of their way to get to the track in order avoid a conflict, that's not gonna be considered a serious crime by any rational thinking individual.

If you disagree, instead of calling the promoter names and bringing up incidents from the past you claim the promoter already admitted he was wrong about on FB, which BTW I kinda doubt, make a case for a serious crime having been committed. From the looks of it, the promoter's mistake was proving he's human, according to how woke you few people are, about a bunch of nothing.

Making celebrities role models, never ends well.

MAKING yourself look like an idiot never ends well either...Yet you and Duck are both doing a good job at it...

Just because you admit your wrong...that does not make you less of an idiot.

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MAKING yourself look like an idiot never ends well either...Yet you and Duck are both doing a good job at it...

Just because you admit your wrong...that does not make you less of an idiot.

A Florida man...…...

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
We will probably always fall on different sides of something like this because of my family associations.

There's only one reason to respond to Curtis, his previous admission of playing Identity politics. Playing Identity politics results in emotional conclusions on matters rather than rational ones.

What do you teach your kids Curtis? Whoever you don't like is automatically wrong irregardless of Evidence? Those are the same principles the National Socialist party Nazi's used to determine true, false, right and wrong.

It's also the same tactics the Lefties used on Trump to waste $45 million dollars, with their witch hunt.

Three things and since you like bold type. There is nothing rational about you, identity politics isn't a thing and irregardless isn't a word. Calling me a liberal doesn't make me one it just makes you more wrong. Every time someone disagrees with you out comes your GIFs and political crap and you do what every Dem does by lying about people who oppose you hoping to shut them up.

Now, you want to come at me that's fine but leave my family out of this. What I have taught my kids has made them all much more successful and better people than you will ever be. The only thing I would admit to you is that based on what you write there is a village somewhere missing it's idiot and he is in Florida.

The Bullet is missing you. Why don't you head back over where you have the one guy who thinks you are the greatest driver ever?

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
We will probably always fall on different sides of something like this because of my family associations.

There's only one reason to respond to Curtis, his previous admission of playing Identity politics. Playing Identity politics results in emotional conclusions on matters rather than rational ones.

What do you teach your kids Curtis? Whoever you don't like is automatically wrong irregardless of Evidence? Those are the same principles the National Socialist party Nazi's used to determine true, false, right and wrong.

It's also the same tactics the Lefties used on Trump to waste $45 million dollars, with their witch hunt.

Three things and since you like bold type. There is nothing rational about you, identity politics isn't a thing and irregardless isn't a word. Calling me a liberal doesn't make me one it just makes you more wrong. Every time someone disagrees with you out comes your GIFs and political crap and you do what every Dem does by lying about people who oppose you hoping to shut them up.

Now, you want to come at me that's fine but leave my family out of this. What I have taught my kids has made them all much more successful and better people than you will ever be. The only thing I would admit to you is that based on what you write there is a village somewhere missing it's idiot and he is in Florida.

The Bullet is missing you. Why don't you head back over where you have the one guy who thinks you are the greatest driver ever?

Believe it or not according rational thinking, coming to objective, unbiased, impartial conclusions for justice on matter such as this, is rational.

It is why I ask, ... If you had kids, what would you teach them? Would you teach them whoever they don't like is automatically guilty, in spite of Evidence to the contrary? Nobody is coming at you, this is a simple question any rational person can answer easily.