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Originally posted by Goob:
So here we are, shifted off topic.
I don't care about any ignitions and accessories, EVERYONE has a car that will run dead on,

Some run the same ET whether in the mountains or at sea level in any weather conditions.

Only time their ET changes is when they make a solo run and go out .20, lol.

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Originally posted by Goob:

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Originally posted by B KING:
TTT, LOL!

2BKING

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Originally posted by DragRaceResults:
I'll just leave this right here.

I still fail to see any significance to this.

Left lane tightened the stripe as much as possible without flat spotting the tires, the right lane knew he was screwed, no matter what, and ran it out the back.

Until Scott can divulge the information that would make it make sense , it means nothing.
I've seen stuff like this happen on a weekly basis, from the announcer's deck, and in the book of screwed up runs, this ain't nothing.

I've watched an experienced S/P racer stage with his back tires, and the equally experienced S/P racer in the other lane, go red to him.

Goob,

IMO, you're reading too much into that infamous time slip!

I've read SL's post(s) on the subject & he's has been pretty vague on his wording, as he should be!

I have my speculation on the slip in question but to me it doesn't matter. Nor it doesn't matter to me who did it, how they did it or trying to catch them.

All that matters to me is the timing equipment manufacturer(s) countermeasure(s) to work on the cheater(s) attempting to successfully sense the tree. DRR, posted this on page 3 of this thread: "It’s my belief detection will not be possible but prevention will."

PREVENTION

2BKING

Chat GPT picked a photo diode that won't "see" Yellow.
Spec wavelength is 900nm

The diodes exist, the technology exists. Cars can now see traffic light changes and stop and go on their own.

Are racers using it? I don’t have a clue. Is it even beneficial to use? I don’t have a clue there either. I would assume the system would have so many potential flaws in the sport we do, that it wouldn’t be worth it, but I’m not an electronics expert either.

Is it “possible” to make the device… yes

Byron Dragway uses CompuLink and had Brockmeyer install the “Defender” system this year to prevent tree reading abilities.

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Originally posted by markemark:
Byron Dragway uses CompuLink and had Brockmeyer install the “Defender” system this year to prevent tree reading abilities.

So what was the result? Did a bunch of racers instantly become non competitive? Did 1 racer become become lost?

^^^^^^^^^ Same racers still winning. Racer that won the $160k three yrs ago and $80k this year was 009 dead 0 against me last time out in the box class. He won the event that day as well.

Just another expense for the track owner. Buy the latest "must have" electronic addon to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
There are a hundred ways to make it work but to make it invisible in a race car would be very difficult if not impossible.
I would bet Brockmeyer was quite happy to sell a Defender addon to defeat a product that isn't even available on the Dark Web.
I having been hearing about these things since the day after the 1st trans brake was sold.

Well, it's been a while....how about an update Scott?

Why was one of the online publishers stirring the pot a week or so ago, with no substantive content?
Slow news day?
Needed clicks?

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Originally posted by Curly1:

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:

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So now they are cheating but you can buy an ignition that can basically do everything the Matty box did and more.

The ARC Module is illegal in bracket racing.

And yet they still sell them..........

Totally LEGAL in most heads up / no prep racing.

137K views about a mythical magic box.

**** Show Knows

I was just thinking about this the other day.

If there is someone actually making this device, I have a new project for you. Make me a device that stages my car at the exact same place every time. That would help me more than the tree reader.

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Originally posted by AZ:
I was just thinking about this the other day.

If there is someone actually making this device, I have a new project for you. Make me a device that stages my car at the exact same place every time. That would help me more than the tree reader.

There's a reason everyone wants to pop a wheelie these days.

I follow and compile race reaction times AND how tight was the dial. Math and algorithms always interested me. A vast majority (%) of races are won on the starting line. To be sure, the dial helps, (Total package) but the RT consistently wins more races (Unfortunately, not all of them).

Poor driving skills and stupidity still account for loses, but statically RT is the KING.

(1) Consistent staging, (Don't be in a hurry to lose).
(2) more rear weight bias.
(3) more tire pressure, (Refer to #2).
(4) lower starting line rpm = predictable dead hook consistency.
(5) a absolutely accurate delay box

You still won't win every race, but your odds are vastly improved. That first movement is critical.

Flame away:

Bob

Several years ago, a member here (I think it was John Rollins or maybe Michael Beard) posted some data from a ton of 1/8 mile races, and it showed that on 80% of the pairs down the track, best reaction time won the round.

This is interesting, as 80% of the discussion is usually about dialing, holding, spot dropping, driving the stripe, dumping, etc, as opposed to R/T

I usually win the rounds when the other guy goes red. Not always, after years of dedication and practice I can still invent ways to skrew the pooch (Figuratively speaking).

Bob

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Originally posted by Goob:

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Originally posted by AZ:
I was just thinking about this the other day.

If there is someone actually making this device, I have a new project for you. Make me a device that stages my car at the exact same place every time. That would help me more than the tree reader.

There's a reason everyone wants to pop a wheelie these days.

But on the run you don't you are really screwed.

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Originally posted by SlyFox:
Several years ago, a member here (I think it was John Rollins or maybe Michael Beard) posted some data from a ton of 1/8 mile races, and it showed that on 80% of the pairs down the track, best reaction time won the round.

This is interesting, as 80% of the discussion is usually about dialing, holding, spot dropping, driving the stripe, dumping, etc, as opposed to R/T

I used to loosely keep track of having a reaction time advantage over my opponents & it was pretty good; I still did all the things in your last sentence. Both were very important to me. I do enjoy the top-end strategies/games & the execution of them!

2BKING

Very first post said to post factual information if you have it. 30 pages later we still have nothing definitive. I think most of us believe the technology is there but would be hard to hide and still be reliable. If someone has figured it out we would like to know.