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Originally posted by stk 758 BP!:
I listened to the pod cast. You can try to justify but it’s not getting there. Chris has it right and so does Luke and others here. Rules are there to protect racers from themselves.. No matter how talented the 14 year old is, it’s the rule and it’s wrong. Not going to address the lack of tech, drugs or alcohol at the races you speak of. That will need a thread on its own, has nothing to do with the subject.

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Originally posted by Big Steve:
Why is everyone still butt hurt over this......geez get over it

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Originally posted by Jared:

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Originally posted by stk 758 BP!:
I listened to the pod cast. You can try to justify but it’s not getting there. Chris has it right and so does Luke and others here. Rules are there to protect racers from themselves.. No matter how talented the 14 year old is, it’s the rule and it’s wrong. Not going to address the lack of tech, drugs or alcohol at the races you speak of. That will need a thread on its own, has nothing to do with the subject.

So, breaking the age rule is not related to breaking any other rules? It is 'just' the age rule that should be enforced?

Show me where I justified it. I presented facts. That wasn't a case of justification. I was simply telling the facts, which were the opposite of what was being reported/rumored. I have stated numerous times, that I fully understand why we don't allow 14 year old kids to jump in big cars and compete with us. However, I'd like to see a system that gave them the opportunity, IF they could prove their ability to do so.

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Originally posted by SlyFox:
Clearly, Jared is all over this because he has plans for HIS kid to race a fast car before turning 16. No sense arguing with him any further.

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Originally posted by SlyFox:
Clearly, Jared is all over this because he has plans for HIS kid to race a fast car before turning 16. No sense arguing with him any further.

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Originally posted by Jared:
[ my advice to you would be to stay off of the internet..

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Originally posted by stk 758 BP!:

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Originally posted by Jared:

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Originally posted by stk 758 BP!:
I listened to the pod cast. You can try to justify but it’s not getting there. Chris has it right and so does Luke and others here. Rules are there to protect racers from themselves.. No matter how talented the 14 year old is, it’s the rule and it’s wrong. Not going to address the lack of tech, drugs or alcohol at the races you speak of. That will need a thread on its own, has nothing to do with the subject.

So, breaking the age rule is not related to breaking any other rules? It is 'just' the age rule that should be enforced?

Show me where I justified it. I presented facts. That wasn't a case of justification. I was simply telling the facts, which were the opposite of what was being reported/rumored. I have stated numerous times, that I fully understand why we don't allow 14 year old kids to jump in big cars and compete with us. However, I'd like to see a system that gave them the opportunity, IF they could prove their ability to do so.

With all due respect Jared..And I mean that. I don’t think it’s going to happen. I’m sure the young man is a very talented driver as your son is and will be. But still 14.. IMHO It’s called experience and that comes with big car seat time.. I’ve been on the flip side with guys like Chris seeing their kid crash a car. My son was in a fast TOP Sportsman Cadillac all year and by that I mean it goes down any track. His first real race car. Great car, great team but the big variable ( the track ) bit him. In a situation for the title he stayed with it too long and wasted the car. It was not hard braking or driving the stripe, it happened after 1/8. Yeah he was banged up, bruised and Pizzed! My point is, experience would have helped him. My son was 18!

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Originally posted by SlyFox:

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Originally posted by Jared:
[ my advice to you would be to stay off of the internet..

I'll do whatever the hell I want. Go pound sand.

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Originally posted by Big Steve:
Why is everyone still butt hurt over this......geez get over it

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Originally posted by Tom Reyer:

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Originally posted by Big Steve:
Why is everyone still butt hurt over this......geez get over it

No one is butt hurt over this, we are just carrying on a healthy discussion about what is the appropriate age to start racing a big car. Healthy discussions are good for everyone involved.
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I want to add, down south and in rural areas, kids have different opportunities to drive stuff way before they get their state issued drivers license. Farm vehicles and equipment, 4 wheelers and other off road vehicles. (I'm not talking competition, just every day life)

Up and around here, not so much. For most kids, their first time behind the wheel of anything is when they get their learners permit. This may be why the _HRA's and insurance companies use the State Issued Drivers License as the bench mark. If you can pass that, now you are eligible to get your competition license and compete.

Back to what Jared has said repeatedly. If a kid has been driving a JR for many years, maybe he can get signed off to drive a big car earlier than 16. One would have to come up with a system or program with minimum seat time and set a fastest ET they could run before 16.

I'm all for measures or programs to grow and save bracket racing. You just don't see many new faces entering the sport nowadays.