In this case, my opinion is that any stretching of constitution is acceptable when dealing with those who would murder without credible reason.

Taking the moral high ground in this case is foolish and to me, wrong. What true benefit is there? Allowing non-americans to take advantage of system is wrong.

Should the Obama administration feel that it is imperitive to take this path, let all information on his early life be fully released. If he feels that the Healthcare overhaul is so drastically important, have it apply exactly to all americans.

Bob regardless of constitutionality, do you support giving these rights to all detainees? I don't.

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Originally posted by muggs:
In this case, my opinion is that any stretching of constitution is acceptable when dealing with those who would murder without credible reason.

Taking the moral high ground in this case is foolish and to me, wrong. What true benefit is there? Allowing non-americans to take advantage of system is wrong.

Should the Obama administration feel that it is imperitive to take this path, let all information on his early life be fully released. If he feels that the Healthcare overhaul is so drastically important, have it apply exactly to all americans.

Bob regardless of constitutionality, do you support giving these rights to all detainees? I don't.

What rights are you talking about?

Sending them to death without a trial?

So now it is OK to stretch the Constitution to serve one's needs.

muggs, you just lost your Conservative status.


I have not seen 1 true Conservative on this board.
All wannabee's..........

Ron Paul was the best choice in the presidental run if you want to toot the Constitution, the far right made fun of him on this board.

The clueless broom pushing factory rat doesn't have a clue what a real CONSERVATIVE is and yet he blathers on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ron Paul is a libertarian not a CONSERVATIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ron Paul is a good choice, however, the ultra right will not support him as he has no love of them either.

It's not who you are, it's what you can do for us, whomever "us" may be.

The cons are just as bad on one side as the libs are on the other. Each one is scary enough.

To this day I haven't seen one person post here that belongs to the "far right"!!!!!!!!!
We have several over the cliff left-wing loons that post!!!!!!!!!
The proof is in their blind support for the cowardly 0boy. Up to this time the left-wing loons have not disagreed with the cowardly 0boy on one single issue!!!!!!!!!!!!

Koski is the perfect example of a true conservative.

Yeah, spout off about all that right wing conservative shiot, then disallows that he is a right winger. He is a middle of the roader and a seeker of a handout.

A "true" conservative would have sent that $15,000 worth of medicade back if his insurance paid the bill.

Muggs, he has no ideal what you were saying, then maybe he does. He more than likely is a Muslim himself, or Black and thinks like Old Jesse. The reason he is backing Osama on these trials is because he knows they won't be convicted in the USA. The reason is people like him, you can throw wishy-washy BD in there with him and I rest my case on tag-a-long.

Ron Paul not a conservative? Now that's funny right there. Koski and Gutless wouldn't know a conservative if it gave you both a viagra and a reach-around.

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Ron Paul was the best choice in the presidental run if you want to toot the Constitution, the far right made fun of him on this board.

Would the unions back Mr. Paul?

Why or Why not?

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Originally posted by Trans Lady:

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Ron Paul was the best choice in the presidental run if you want to toot the Constitution, the far right made fun of him on this board.

Would the unions back Mr. Paul?

Why or Why not?

I can't answer that for you, my point being Ron Paul knows the Constitution and is more of a Conservative then the chest beaters in this forum.

Ppl like kosky sucks off the Govt. for every free handout he can get, supports policies that shred the Constitution.
He is just a wannabee........

Political positions of Ron Paul

Paul has been described as conservative, Constitutionalist, and libertarian.[6] His nickname "Dr. No"[9] reflects both his medical degree and his insistence that he will "never vote for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution."[20] One scoring method published in the American Journal of Political Science[143] found Paul the most conservative of all 3,320 members of Congress from 1937 to 2002.[144] Paul's foreign policy of nonintervention[145] made him the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have voted against the Iraq War Resolution in 2002. He advocates withdrawal from the United Nations and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization for reasons of maintaining strong national sovereignty.[146] He supports free trade, rejecting membership in the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the World Trade Organization as "managed trade". He supports tighter border security and ending welfare benefits for illegal aliens, and opposes birthright citizenship and amnesty;[147] he voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006. He voted for the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists in response to the September 11, 2001, attacks, but suggested war alternatives such as authorizing the president to grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal targeting specific terrorists.

Paul adheres deeply to Austrian school economics; he has authored six books on the subject, and displays pictures of Austrian school economists Friedrich Hayek, Murray Rothbard, and Ludwig von Mises (as well as of Grover Cleveland)[25] on his office wall. He regularly votes against almost all proposals for new government spending, initiatives, or taxes;[52] he cast two thirds of all the lone negative votes in the House during a 1995–1997 period.[9] He has pledged never to raise taxes[148] and states he has never voted to approve a budget deficit. Paul believes that the country could abolish the individual income tax by scaling back federal spending to its fiscal year 2000 levels;[73][149] financing government operations would primarily come through the corporate income tax, excise taxes and tariffs. He supports eliminating most federal government agencies, calling them unnecessary bureaucracies. Paul also believes the longterm erosion of the U.S. dollar's purchasing power through inflation is attributable to its lack of any commodity backing. However, Paul does not support a complete return to a gold standard, instead preferring to legitimize gold and silver as legal tender and to remove the sales tax on them.[150] He also advocates gradual elimination of the Federal Reserve System.[151]

Paul supports Constitutional rights, such as the right to keep and bear arms, and habeas corpus for political detainees. He opposes the Patriot Act, federal use of torture, presidential autonomy, a national ID card, domestic surveillance, and the draft. Citing the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, Paul advocates states' rights to decide how to regulate social matters not directly found in the Constitution. Paul calls himself "strongly pro-life",[152] "an unshakable foe of abortion",[153] and believes regulation or ban[154] on medical decisions about maternal or fetal health is "best handled at the state level".[155][156] He says his years as an obstetrician led him to believe life begins at conception;[157] his pro-life legislation, like the Sanctity of Life Act, is intended to negate Roe v. Wade and to get "the federal government completely out of the business of regulating state matters."[158] Paul also believes that the federal government has no constitutional authority to interfere in the religious affairs of its citizens or of the several states: "In case after case, the Supreme Court has used the infamous 'separation of church and state' metaphor to uphold court decisions that allow the federal government to intrude upon and deprive citizens of their religious liberty."[159]

He opposes federal regulation of the death penalty,[155] of education,[160] and of marriage, and supports revising the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy to focus on disruptive sexual behavior (whether heterosexual or homosexual).[161] As a free-market environmentalist, he asserts private property rights in relation to environmental protection and pollution prevention. He also opposes the federal War on Drugs,[162] and thinks the states should decide whether to regulate or deregulate drugs such as medical marijuana.[163] Paul pushes to eliminate federal involvement in and management of health care, which he argues would allow prices to drop due to the fundamental dynamics of a free market.[164] He is an outspoken proponent for increased ballot access for 3rd party candidates and numerous election law reforms which he believes would allow more voter control.[165] Ron Paul has also stated that “The government shouldn't be in the medical business." He also thinks that the talk about swine flu and getting vaccinated by the Federal Government is being blown out of proportion.[166]

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Angry Congress lashes out at Obama

Growing discontent over the economy and frustration with efforts to speed its recovery boiled over Thursday on Capitol Hill in a wave of criticism and outright anger directed at the Obama administration.
Episodes in both houses of Congress exposed the raw nerves of lawmakers flooded with stories of unemployment and economic hardship back home. They also underscored the stiff headwinds that the administration faces as it pushes to enact sweeping changes to the financial regulatory system while also trying to create jobs for ordinary Americans.

President Obama's allies in the Congressional Black Caucus, exasperated by the administration's handling of the economy, unexpectedly blocked one his top priorities, using a legislative maneuver to postpone the approval of financial reform legislation by a key House committee.


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Mr. Cutlass, Mr. Kosky, Translady, and all the other right leaning types have little trouble understanding what I post.

I have never claimed to be a "Far right" or "Ultra right" wing type. Mr. Kosky is correct, I don't even remember anyone that I would consider a radical right person posting.

I often wonder if "left leaning" is a real mental issue or not? Maybe it is just envy? Maybe it is overcompensating for a lack of accomplishment or capacity.

I have seen posts berating people for showing up and winning, people wanting to know names??, people whining about people hiring dry foot legals. This is only the tip of social dysfunction among the left leaners. No wonder the "White house" is occupied by "Hope&Change".

If this is ultimate direction the country is headed, I am really glad I am old.

Another anonymous poster.

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Originally posted by BD:
Another anonymous poster.

Hardly, come to South Florida and race.


PS - Alfred E. Neuman

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I can't answer that for you

Usual answer for a black man. If an Afican with a bone through his nose was to run for President after Osama, then BD, BH, announcer, Larry and North Texas panhandle would vote for him. Who are they trying to fool. Oop's, forgot tag-a-long..

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Sending them to death without a trial?

NBC: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed — can you understand why it is offensive to some for this terrorist to get all the legal privileges of any American citizen?

Obama: I don’t think it will be offensive at all when he’s convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him.

NBC: But having that kind of confidence of a conviction — I mean one of the purposes of doing — going to the Justice Department and not military court is to show of the the world our fairness in our court system.

Obama: Well —

NBC: But you also just said that he was going to be convicted and given the death penalty.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/...s/today-white_house/

If convictions in the federal courts are going to be an inevitable result, then how does that show the world the fairness of our court system?

All it shows the world is that the cowardly 0boy is a bumbling buffoon!
I heard the entire exchange and 0boy said, "HE WILL BE TRIED, CONVICTED AND EXECUTED!" When the interviewer pointed out his BLUNDER the cowardly 0boy swore he didn't say what he just said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!