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DRR Pro |
You guys are PT Barnums favorites. Easily fooled whenever the need arises. | |||
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DRR Elite |
A fool is one who thinks the government is her to help. L8R, Mike | |||
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DRR Pro |
Government had NOTHING to do with the scare tactics righties have been blabbing for the last 10 years. And nothing to do with the gun makers jacking up prices. Accept that you all got played again. It has NEVER been easier to get a gun and a carry permit. Gun shows every week in FLA. where any clown can buy a weapon for an inflated price. | |||
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DRR All Star |
Still waiting race-a-duck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
The gun shop owner that lives down the street from me says different...rant on DUMBASS! Jerry Mock | |||
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DRR All Star |
Guns and ammo is selling BIG where I live. I bet Mr. Muck carries in his Tonka truck. Most truckers do........ | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
There's only one way to find out DUMBASS! Jerry Mock | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
Trying to make sense to you liberal idiots is like trying to pick up a turd from the clean end. But I'm going to try to find that clean end, at least once. I am sure you have heard the term "Give an inch, and they'll take a mile"? That's exactly what the government is trying to do. Chip away at the Second Amendment one bull**** law at a time. The reason it hasn't happened is because all these politicians are running scared, including some of those states that had these gun laws rammed down their throats... Well guess what? Those are having to face recall votes of the people. So if Obama is no step closer to taking our guns, doesn't have a damned thing to do with him, it has everything to do with the people that stood up and said "You're not taking our guns." All these chicken**** politicians know it will be political suicide to keep pushing the issue. So if either one of you liberal idiots can't understand that, then I guess I couldn't find the clean end of that turd! | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — The last holdout on allowing the public possession of concealed guns, Illinois joined the rest of the nation Tuesday as lawmakers raced to beat a federal court deadline in adopting a carry law over Gov. Pat Quinn's objections. Massive majorities in the House and Senate voted to override changes the Democratic governor made just a week ago in an amendatory veto. Some lawmakers feared failure to pass something would mean virtually unregulated weapons in Chicago, which has endured severe gun violence in recent months — including more than 70 shootings, at least 12 of them fatal, during the Independence Day weekend. "This is a historic, significant day for law-abiding gun owners," said Rep. Brandon Phelps, a southern Illinois Democrat who, in 10 years in the House, has continued work on concealed carry begun by his uncle, ex-Rep. David Phelps, who began serving in the mid-1980s. "They finally get to exercise their Second Amendment rights." The Senate voted 41-17 in favor of the override after a House tally of 77-31, margins that met the three-fifths threshold needed to set aside the amendatory veto. Quinn had used his veto authority to suggest changes, including prohibiting guns in restaurants that serve alcohol and limiting gun-toting citizens to one firearm at a time. Quinn had predicted a "showdown in Springfield" after a week of Chicago appearances to drum up support for the changes he made in the amendatory veto. The Chicago Democrat faces a tough re-election fight next year and has already drawn a primary challenge from former White House chief of state Bill Daley, who has criticized the governor's handling of the debate over guns and other issues. Lawmakers had little appetite for fiddling any further with the legislation on the deadline day that the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals had set for ending what it said was an unconstitutional ban on carrying concealed weapons. Without action, the previous gun law would be invalidated and none would take its place. "If we do not vote to override today, at 12:01 a.m. tomorrow, July 10, there are no restrictions upon people who want to carry handguns in the public way," said Sen. Kwame Raoul, a Chicago Democrat who negotiated the legislation with House sponsors. Despite the setback for Quinn, he remained resolute when he spoke to reporters late in the day. "It's very, very important that we protect the people," he said. "The legislation today does not do that. It has shortcomings that will lead to tragedies." The law that took effect Tuesday permits anyone with a Firearm Owner's Identification card who has passed a background check and undergone gun-safety training of 16 hours — longest of any state — to obtain a concealed-carry permit for $150. The Illinois State Police has six months to set up a system to start accepting applications. Spokeswoman Monique Bond said police expect 300,000 applications in the first year. For years, powerful Chicago Democrats had tamped down agitation by gun owners to adopt concealed carry. So gun activists took the issue to court. Gun-control advocates saw the handwriting on the wall after the December ruling. But Mark Walsh, director of the Illinois Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, remained hopeful future legislation could continue to shape the concealed carry law, and he pointed to other gun-restriction victories in the spring legislative session. They include required background checks on gun buyers in private sales and mandatory reporting of lost or stolen guns. Quinn had urged Democratic Attorney General Lisa Madigan to appeal the ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court. Madigan filed motions to dismiss the lawsuits Tuesday after the override, reporting to a federal judge the issue is moot now that there's a law that answers the original legal action. The motion said further legal action involving the law would require a new lawsuit. Opinions varied about what would have happened had a law not taken effect. Gun supporters said it would have meant with no law governing gun possession, any type of firearm could be carried anywhere, at any time. Those supporting stricter gun control said local communities would have been able to set up tough restrictions. With the negotiated law, gun-rights advocates got the permissive law they wanted, instead of a New York-style plan that gives law enforcement authorities wide discretion over who gets permits. In exchange, Chicago Democrats repulsed by gun violence got a long list of places deemed off limits to guns, including schools, libraries, parks and mass transit buses and trains. But one part of the compromise had to do with establishments that serve alcohol. The law will allow diners to carry weapons into restaurants and other establishments where liquor comprises no more than 50 percent of gross sales. One of the main provisions of Quinn's amendatory veto was to nix guns where any alcohol is served. He also wanted to limit citizens to carrying one gun at a time, a gun that is completely concealed, not "mostly concealed" as the initiative decrees. He prefers banning guns from private property unless an owner puts up a sign allowing guns — the reverse of what's in the new law — and would give employers more power to prohibit guns at work. Sen. Jacqueline Collins, D-Chicago, said Quinn's changed made sense and voted to sustain the veto. "It's a position that I'm making out of respect for the mothers and the fathers who've lost children to senseless gun violence," Collins said. As a nod to Quinn, Senate President John Cullerton floated legislation that addressed the governor's worries. But the Senate ultimately approved a follow-up bill that only mentioned two of his suggestions. It failed in the House. ___ The concealed carry bill is HB183. The Cullerton bill is HB1453. Online: http://www.ilga.gov ___ Contact John O'Connor at http://www.twitter.com/apoconnor ___ Associated Press writers Sophia Tareen and Kerry Lester contributed to this report. | |||
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DRR All Star |
Its easy to figure out race-a-duck that the clean end will be in your mouth. Run out there and buy more guns and ammo before they come to your door and take them away. How fawking dumb you repos are.......... | |||
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DRR Elite |
The government is nothing but scare tactics and the dumbocrats continue to fall for their bs. L8R, Mike | |||
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DRR Elite |
duped boob RETARD #1 proves again why he has earned that title! He actually thinks there is a "clean end" on a turd????? The government demonstrated again yesterday how they will use storm trooper tactics to try and terrorize people who openly disagree with their illegal activities! The government called the media and raided the "freedom fighter", knocking twice quickly and then using a battering ram on his door!!!!! Naturally the left-wing lame stream gun hating moron media will never report the gestapo tactics the storm troopers used!!!!! TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!! Later, Bill Koski | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
That's it? That's all you got? A-S-S-H-O-L-E!!!! | |||
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DRR All Star |
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DRR Top Comp |
So I guess you lord and master osama been lying POS was so pissed after it got kicked out because government had nothing to do with it Fu-king idiots. America home of free. Brought to you by 2nd amendment. | |||
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DRR Top Comp |
question How does Obama take a dump with Bob H and fag57's head so far up his a$$? Seems it would be crammed full. America home of free. Brought to you by 2nd amendment. | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
Now thats some funny "shyte" right there...especially since ones got the front and the other the rear Jerry Mock | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bob H: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bob H: How fawking dumb you are.......... | |||
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DRR Elite |
After "totus" dragged as much supposed political mileage out of the Newton school travesty as humanly possible he ordered the CDC to do a study on how "guns could be halted from killing people"? Unfortunately for "totus" the CDC commissioned an "honest organization" to conduct the study and the results run contrary to everything the aspiring gun grabbers claim!!!!! SO, the study results have been buried and are entirely ignored by the left-wing lame stream moron media and the FLEEBAGGERS!!!!! TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!! Later, Bill Koski | |||
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DRR All Star |
At any time they thought they could get away with taking our guns, they will try at least. Dems or Repubs alike. _____________________________ Wes Scott | |||
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