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Those charts came directly from "rocket scientist" algore's carbon credits sales office!!!!!


TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
Later, Bill Koski
 
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Care to comment?

No.


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Originally posted by Mike English:
Hoaxking, has to run and find another website that says we are warming so he can post "look at me, I'm right"


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Originally posted by Bill Koski:
Those charts came directly from "rocket scientist" algore's carbon credits sales office!!!!!


So basically just the same old tired sh1t, who would have guessed.

So I guess your basic debate strategy goes something like this:



Oh, I suggest that you might use this image for your avatar as well.


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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As "head stuck in a wet, dark and smelly place" "little man larry heathen" accuses the people who digest ALL OF THE NEWS of doing the exact thing the hoaxees are forced to do!!!!!
"little man" is either lying by claiming he hasn't seen the NEWS, even carried in the left-wing lame stream moron media, that there has been ZERO warming in the last 15 years OR he has conciously avoided this NEWS?????
The E-mails that originated at East Anglican University and were leaked proved conclusively that the entire "climate change" bull shyt was a HOAX with cherry picked and altered data the norm!!!!! "little man" and his hoaxee compatriots dismissed this out of hand because the left-wing lame stream moron media refused to publish anything about it and it was carried on the network they despise, the vile hated FOX NEWS!!!!!

Combating FACT with propaganda data from the prime hoaxers themselves is LAME!!!!!
We've all seen what awaits anybody connected with this regime if they dare disagree with a regime edict! The safety and welfare of their families and themselves is on the table!
Where does a sane thinking person opine the loot for the hoaxers constructing the graph came from?????

WOW!!!!!
The Antarctic ice is growing at a record pace!!!!!
More dire news for the hoaxers!
The Arctic summer is the shortest on record, less then half of the usual 90 days above freezing this year and the Arctic ice is already beginning to expand at a record rate!!!!!!
While in the UP of Michigan last week I got a sample of "climate change" as it is now called because there has been ZERO global warming, man-made or otherwise, in the past 15 years!!!!!
In July the furnace on the coach ran for three days!!!!!
Reminded me of getting frozen out on a trip around Lake Superior in the mid 70's when we were in the hoaxers ice age!!!!!


TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
Later, Bill Koski
 
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As "head stuck in a wet, dark and smelly place" "little man larry heathen" accuses the people who digest ALL OF THE NEWS of doing the exact thing the hoaxees are forced to do!!!!!
"little man" is either lying by claiming he hasn't seen the NEWS, even carried in the left-wing lame stream moron media, that there has been ZERO warming in the last 15 years OR he has conciously avoided this NEWS?????
The E-mails that originated at East Anglican University and were leaked proved conclusively that the entire "climate change" bull shyt was a HOAX with cherry picked and altered data the norm!!!!! "little man" and his hoaxee compatriots dismissed this out of hand because the left-wing lame stream moron media refused to publish anything about it and it was carried on the network they despise, the vile hated FOX NEWS!!!!!

Combating FACT with propaganda data from the prime hoaxers themselves is LAME!!!!!
We've all seen what awaits anybody connected with this regime if they dare disagree with a regime edict! The safety and welfare of their families and themselves is on the table!
Where does a sane thinking person opine the loot for the hoaxers constructing the graph came from?????

WOW!!!!!
The Antarctic ice is growing at a record pace!!!!!
More dire news for the hoaxers!
The Arctic summer is the shortest on record, less then half of the usual 90 days above freezing this year and the Arctic ice is already beginning to expand at a record rate!!!!!!
While in the UP of Michigan last week I got a sample of "climate change" as it is now called because there has been ZERO global warming, man-made or otherwise, in the past 15 years!!!!!
In July the furnace on the coach ran for three days!!!!!
Reminded me of getting frozen out on a trip around Lake Superior in the mid 70's when we were in the hoaxers ice age!!!!!




Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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A typical hoaxees reaction when presented with irrefutable FACTS!!!!!


TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
Later, Bill Koski
 
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I guess I will have to go with Mark Twain for now and stop and stop responding.

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

― Mark Twain


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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"10 July 1913, World Record High Temp

Death Valley: 134º F

In case you missed it, there was a town near Bumfuq, Libya that had claimed the high-temperature record for many years, but it was thrown out last year, leaving Death Valley's 1913 high temperature record of 134º F set on this day a hundred years ago as the world's record.

Normally new records for just about everything get set simply as random variation exceeds the previous limit, but in this case, the world's temperatures probably peaked about a hundred years ago. The Earth's mean temperature follows a regular cycle with a period of several hundred thousand years, so it's difficult to predict exactly where we are on this much larger cycle."


You might like to take a look at this paper.

Determining the natural length of the current interglacial

P. C. Tzedakis1*, J. E. T. Channell2, D. A. Hodell3, H. F. Kleiven4,5 and L. C. Skinner3

http://geology.ufl.edu/Channel...20et%20al%202012.pdf


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Climate scientists have cracked the mystery of why Antarctic sea ice has managed to grow despite global warming—but the results suggest the trend may rapidly reverse, a new study says.

Satellite data show that, over the past 30 years, Arctic sea ice has declined while Antarctic sea ice has mysteriously expanded, according to study leader Jiping Liu, a research scientist at Georgia Tech in Atlanta.

"We've seen this paradox, but we don't know why—here we gave an explanation," Liu said.

The new analyses are based on climate models and sea-surface temperature and precipitation observations from 1950 to 2009. They show that, in the 20th century, ocean warming boosted precipitation in the upper atmosphere over the Antarctic region, which fell as snow.


More snow made the top layers of the ocean less salty and thus less dense. These layers became more stable, preventing warm, density-driven currents in the deep ocean from rising and melting sea ice. (Test your ocean IQ.)

Global Warming to Speed Up Antarctic Melting?

The data show that Antarctic sea ice growth in the 20th century might be mostly dictated by natural processes, Liu noted.

But that won't be the case for the 21st century, since human-caused global warming is predicted to dominate the Antarctic climate and trigger faster melting of sea ice, he said. (See a map of global warming impacts worldwide.)

As increasing greenhouse gases continue to warm the oceans off Antarctica, more Antarctic precipitation will turn to rain, which rapidly melts snow and ice, according to the study, published this week in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The more the ice melts, the more the sun's rays are absorbed into the dark ocean instead of being reflected back into the atmosphere, according to the study. This will further warm the ocean and melt even more sea ice.

The scientists predict the transition from natural variability to greenhouse-gas warming will begin soon: "I cannot give you a precise year—but definitely in this century," Liu said. (See a greenhouse effect interactive.)

The oceans off Antarctica are the world's most biologically productive, and declining sea ice could have a "substantial impact on the Antarctic marine ecosystem," Liu said. For instance, many Antarctic species rely on sea ice for hunting and overall survival. Antarctic penguins—many of which may disappear if warming continues—are among the animals at risk, conservationists say.

A loss of sea ice could also throw a wrench in how ocean water travels around the world, Liu noted: The oceans off Antarctica include Earth's coldest, densest water, which is one of the "dominant driving forces" for the ocean's global conveyor belt, a circulation pattern that provides nutrients for up to three-quarters of marine life.

Ozone Hole Missing in Sea Ice Study

The study results aren't surprising, since they're in line with previous predictions that Antarctic sea-ice loss would accelerate, said Walt Meier of the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) in Boulder, Colorado.

"That's been the conventional wisdom—this is a modeling study [that] does actual physics that confirms" this idea, Meier said.

The paper also helps to dispel a common misconception—that the strong decline in Arctic ice and increase in Antarctic ice causes a net zero effect, Meier said.

That's not the case, because the two polar ecosystems are so different, he said. Arctic ice is multiyear, persisting through the seasons, while Antarctic ice forms and melts each year and has always been governed more by wind and ocean circulation than air temperatures, he said.

That's not to say the melting effects of temperature, as seen in the Arctic, won't also occur in the Antarctic—they'll just take longer to show up, he said.

But Kevin Trenberth, a senior scientist at the Boulder, Colorado-based National Center for Atmospheric Research, said that the paper has a major omission: the influence of the hole in the ozone layer.

Bright summertime clouds spurred by the hole have acted as shields against global warming, scientists say. Recent research suggests the hole may finally be closing, following the phase-out of ozone-depleting chemicals called chlorofluorocarbons. And as the sun-reflecting clouds dissipate, temperatures in the Southern Hemisphere may rise faster than currently predicted by models.

The ozone hole has been a reason "why Antarctica has not warmed the same way as other parts of the world," Trenberth said by email.

"How the ozone hole recovery comes about in the future is a major factor in expected developments, as shown in some model simulations—but these aspects are not dealt with in this paper."

Study author Liu agrees that the ozone hole influences sea ice, but "I am not sure if ozone depletion really play[s] a significant role in the Antarctic sea ice variability
 
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Another zero.


L8R, Mike

 
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More poppycoc k bull shyt from the HOAXERS for the hoaxees to cut and paste as the HOAXERS attempt to justify the billions of tax payer dollars they receive to carry on the disproved HOAX!!!!!


TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
Later, Bill Koski
 
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Beyond climate change attribution in conservation and ecological research

Detailed understanding of the mechanisms driving the global climate system has resulted in a set of modelling and analytical approaches that is widely accepted by the climate science community. The result is a series of quantitative assessments of the relative roles of natural and anthropogenic drivers of climate trends (Fig. 1, IPCC 2007a). Climate scientists have successfully provided analyses that yield ‘very high’ confidence [sensu Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)] in attributing the bulk of the past 50 years’ rise in global mean temperatures to rises in human-caused greenhouse gases (GHG), (Fig. 1, see Box 1 for IPCC definitions of ‘confidence levels’ and ‘attribution’, IPCC 2007a). The policy sector drove that research, both in terms of funding priorities and in terms of IPCC mandates. The result has been an ever-increasing call for worldwide reductions in GHG emissions.



Figure 1. Estimates (and ranges) of warming effect in 2005, in terms of radiative forcing, stemming from different natural and anthropogenic sources. (Source: Figure 2.20 in: IPCC 2007a)
Download figure to PowerPoint

With consensus that human activities are leading to dangerous interference in Earth's climate (Rockström et al. 2009), there has been growing policy pressure for clear quantification and attribution of the resulting biological impacts. Encouraged by successful attribution of global warming to GHG, policymakers have advocated extension of this approach to generate quantitative attribution of biological events not merely to changing climate (CC), but specifically to anthropogenic climate change (ACC), the component of change that has been driven by increase in GHG. When particular biological systems are dramatically altered, such as when a population goes extinct, policymakers (and the public) often demand a level of ‘attribution’ that clearly delineates the role of ACC from those of other potential drivers. A recent IPCC Guidance document for the Fifth Assessment Report attempted to satisfy this demand by developing a framework for detecting biological impacts and attributing them to anthropogenic GHG forcing (Box 1 and Hegerl et al. 2010).

Biologists have used multiple approaches to link long-term observational changes in wild species or systems to ACC. One approach focuses on documentation of ‘fingerprints’ of ACC in systematic global trends and in specific patterns of observed changes in species' traits that are uniquely predicted as responses to global warming. Such studies have focused on globally consistent, systematic poleward and upward shifts of range boundaries and advancement of spring phenologies (Root et al. 2003; Parmesan & Yohe 2003; Fig. 2 ‘meta-analyses’). Another approach relies on scientific inference drawn from independent, multiple lines of evidence that, taken together, support a coherent and parsimonious conclusion that ACC has driven particular observed biological changes (see discussions under Best Practices and Table 1). A third set of approaches has analysed observed biological changes against climate models to link biological responses to greenhouse gas (GHG) forcing (Root et al. 2005; Rosenzweig et al. 2008).

Full article

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com....1111/ele.12098/full


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Probably ran to mommy. "They don't believe me"!


L8R, Mike

 
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Lets hope the Antarctic ice sheets keep growing at more than there current 4% or 5%, because the Greenland Ice Sheet is really going in the other direction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkpFNteryX8


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Beyond climate change attribution in conservation and ecological research

Detailed understanding of the mechanisms driving the global climate system has resulted in a set of modelling and analytical approaches that is widely accepted by the climate science community. The result is a series of quantitative assessments of the relative roles of natural and anthropogenic drivers of climate trends (Fig. 1, IPCC 2007a). Climate scientists have successfully provided analyses that yield ‘very high’ confidence [sensu Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)] in attributing the bulk of the past 50 years’ rise in global mean temperatures to rises in human-caused greenhouse gases (GHG), (Fig. 1, see Box 1 for IPCC definitions of ‘confidence levels’ and ‘attribution’, IPCC 2007a). The policy sector drove that research, both in terms of funding priorities and in terms of IPCC mandates. The result has been an ever-increasing call for worldwide reductions in GHG emissions.



Figure 1. Estimates (and ranges) of warming effect in 2005, in terms of radiative forcing, stemming from different natural and anthropogenic sources. (Source: Figure 2.20 in: IPCC 2007a)
Download figure to PowerPoint

With consensus that human activities are leading to dangerous interference in Earth's climate (Rockström et al. 2009), there has been growing policy pressure for clear quantification and attribution of the resulting biological impacts. Encouraged by successful attribution of global warming to GHG, policymakers have advocated extension of this approach to generate quantitative attribution of biological events not merely to changing climate (CC), but specifically to anthropogenic climate change (ACC), the component of change that has been driven by increase in GHG. When particular biological systems are dramatically altered, such as when a population goes extinct, policymakers (and the public) often demand a level of ‘attribution’ that clearly delineates the role of ACC from those of other potential drivers. A recent IPCC Guidance document for the Fifth Assessment Report attempted to satisfy this demand by developing a framework for detecting biological impacts and attributing them to anthropogenic GHG forcing (Box 1 and Hegerl et al. 2010).

Biologists have used multiple approaches to link long-term observational changes in wild species or systems to ACC. One approach focuses on documentation of ‘fingerprints’ of ACC in systematic global trends and in specific patterns of observed changes in species' traits that are uniquely predicted as responses to global warming. Such studies have focused on globally consistent, systematic poleward and upward shifts of range boundaries and advancement of spring phenologies (Root et al. 2003; Parmesan & Yohe 2003; Fig. 2 ‘meta-analyses’). Another approach relies on scientific inference drawn from independent, multiple lines of evidence that, taken together, support a coherent and parsimonious conclusion that ACC has driven particular observed biological changes (see discussions under Best Practices and Table 1). A third set of approaches has analysed observed biological changes against climate models to link biological responses to greenhouse gas (GHG) forcing (Root et al. 2005; Rosenzweig et al. 2008).

Full article

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com....1111/ele.12098/full


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Sure thing Hoaxmaster.


L8R, Mike

 
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What a fool old man is in relying on Russian e-mails for his narrow outlook.

Sad....Pretty sad. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
 
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Larry, all you are doing is confusing ppl like english and BS billy.

They should take notice than Stanley cannot even post back and refute your information that you have provided.

BS billy and 6 time loser English can only respond with Russian e-mails and 1 liners showing their intelligence.

They are victims of their own mentality..... Laughing Laughing
 
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According to the hoaxees weather and climate have to be separate or their "fairy tale" would evaporate if they admitted that weather events actually constituted "climate!!!!!"
The hoaxees have never addressed the East Anglican E-mails that totally devastated the hoaxers bogus bull shyt! The hoaxees claimed Fox News wasn't legit and none of the left-wing lame stream moron media even reported on the E-mails to cover for the hoaxers!!!!!


OBAMAVILLE is on the horizon and closing RAPIDLY!!!!!

Later, Bill Koski
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Originally posted by Bob H:

"These emails have the appearance of having been held back after the theft of data and emails in 2009 to be released at a time designed to cause maximum disruption to the imminent international climate talks," the school stated.

University of East Anglia spokesman Simon Dunford nonetheless told the Associated Press that a small sample examined by the university "appears to be genuine" -- although the school stated that they did not seem to be recent emails.

"While we have had only a limited opportunity to look at this latest post of 5,000 emails, we have no evidence of a recent breach of our systems," the statement reads.

FoxNews.com downloaded the documents, which appear to have been taken down from the Russian website that had been hosting them.

And the anonymous source of the latest leaked emails -- a 173MB zip file called "FOIA2011" containing more than 5,000 new emails and made briefly available on Russian server Sinwt.ru -- remains unclear. The perpetrator of the original hack has yet to be unmasked, although British police have said their investigation is still active.

Michael Mann, the director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State University and a central figure in climate studies, described the release to U.K. paper the Guardian as "truly pathetic."

The emails in the leak appeared to be his own, Mann said, although he did not believe them to be as controversial at all, despite being taken out of context.

"I hardly see anything that appears damning at all," he told the Guardian.



Old man relies on the Russians and Faux news for his education. Laughing


Maybe BS billy's heritage is from Russia.
I noticed his interest in Putin.
 
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Sleep Roll Eyes Sleep
 
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Poor "little man larry heathen" has to keep his nose buried in the propaganda distributed by the HOAXERS so he doesn't stumble onto REAL FACTS!!!!!
Like the abnormally cold "summer" in the Arctic and the REAL FACT that there has been ZERO warming in the past 15 YEARS!!!!!

SO, apparently East Anglican University moved from Great Britain while I was not looking?????
RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll guarantee F-ing tee anyone the hoaxees avoided finding out anything that was in these E-mails that exposed the lying, data switching and data manipulation that the HOAXERS routinely practice like they would avoid the plague!!!!!
If a hoaxee had they wouldn't be a duped boob hoaxee after that, they'd have seen the LIGHT!!!!!
The doofus that was really blown out of the water by the E-mails pulled a variation of President Richard M. Nixon's "I'm not a crook!"
Except he didn't deny really being a crook, just that the E-Mails made him look like a BIGGER crook!!!!!
Naturally the hoaxees sallowed this bull shyt WHOLE like they swallow all of the HOAXERS propaganda!!!!



Think I will copy bs bills rant as we've seen him removing his posts as of lately.

Sleep Roll Eyes Sleep
 
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