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Bracket Talk Bracket Talk Forum Tech Talk - by Abruzzi Solenoid throttle stop in Sportsman ETGo | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply | |
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Hey everyone! Do you know if a solenoid kick up idle stop is legal in sportsman et for launch assistance. The rulebook say throttle must be operated by the foot unless handicaped.A fellow competitor turns it on after his burnout. Kinda a grey area? 65 Malibu 3150# 9" 4L65 LS3 Full steel car. | ||
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My opinion is absolutely not legal. Isn't there something in the rules about electronic devices? ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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DRR Top Comp |
This has been discussed before and electric solenoid absolutely is not legal. My understanding is the mechanical ones with a lever that raise launch RPM was legal but has since been outlawed? https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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https://drr.infopop.cc/eve/for...117044396#9117044396 These are the type that I think have been outlawed. On my previous cars I had made one similar. It worked great but was not as pretty. Can anyone verify if they are illegal now? https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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They were legal in D-2 in 2023. | |||
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It's only against the rules when someone gets butthurt. goob- just one of the reasons i don't race bottom bulb "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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Electric solenoids were? ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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Yeah, cause there is never any drama in S/P  ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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From Div 7 Tech No sir that would not be legal. Thanks Pat! Is a electric solenoid that raises the idle only at the starting line legal? Thanks George Rodgers 65 Malibu 3150# 9" 4L65 LS3 Full steel car. | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
Curtis, not electric solenoids, I was answering Curly about the hand operated ones. | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
Not so much a gray area as no one wants to tech and enforce the rules. | |||
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I have not encountered any S/P drama around here. 25 years waiting for it.  Back on topic, when I did research the legality, I determined that if the car was a model originally equipped with A/C, or an emissions / driveability related throttle control, mounted in the O.E. style, it would be legal. Otherwise, absolutely not. One could argue for a cable control, but only if it actuated the choke linkage fast idle. "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
Interesting how it all always comes down to track's rules, Recently saw where some tracks have lower et cutoff for Sportsman class than the sanctioning bodies class rules. | |||
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Keep in mind that Pro class (no-box, transbrake okay) it's also illegal to have an adjustable starting line rev limiter within reach of the driver as well. Pick your setting pre-run, and roll with it. "Local rules" always trump sanction suggestions. "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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| DRR Pro |
What is this?.....Within reach of the driver? You can't adjust your starting line RPM if you are in the car? What in gods name is that supposed to eliminate? The driver having a better chance at winning? You can have every electronic aid except a box, but don't adjust your stage RPM! lol  | |||
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"Within reach of the driver". Gee, Nothing subjective there...  How would tech even make that determination? Oh, wait - There is no tech anymore. Dan "Jim" Moore Much too young to feel this damn old!! | |||
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Exactly and I bet I can point out 5 or more that have it in place. Who’s looking? Nobody! Raceless in California! | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
Last time I was teched driving a buddies car. The tech guy said I had to replace the 5-point harness due to it being out of date. I told him the car was slow and did't require a 5-point but he insisted that I had to replace the belts anyway. Even though it wasn't in the rulebook, it was techs decision on the matter. "Ok, next week I'll be here with the original lap belt from 1965." 72 Nova "Hooptie" | |||
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I do believe tech was correct in that case. Tony Leonard | |||
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Yep expired belts don't fly no matter what the situation. | |||
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