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Hey everyone!

Do you know if a solenoid kick up idle stop is legal in sportsman et for launch assistance. The rulebook say throttle must be operated by the foot unless handicaped.A fellow competitor turns it on after his burnout. Kinda a grey area?


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My opinion is absolutely not legal. Isn't there something in the rules about electronic devices?



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This has been discussed before and electric solenoid absolutely is not legal.

My understanding is the mechanical ones with a lever that raise launch RPM was legal but has since been outlawed?


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These are the type that I think have been outlawed. On my previous cars I had made one similar. It worked great but was not as pretty.

Can anyone verify if they are illegal now?


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They were legal in D-2 in 2023.
 
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It's only against the rules when someone gets butthurt.

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They were legal in D-2 in 2023.


Electric solenoids were?



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It's only against the rules when someone gets butthurt.

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No sir that would not be legal.




Thanks Pat!

Is a electric solenoid that raises the idle only at the starting line legal?

Thanks George Rodgers


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Curtis, not electric solenoids, I was answering Curly about the hand operated ones.
 
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Kinda a grey area?

Not so much a gray area as no one wants to tech and enforce the rules.
 
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It's only against the rules when someone gets butthurt.

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Yeah, cause there is never any drama in S/P Laughing Hard


I have not encountered any S/P drama around here. 25 years waiting for it. Confused


Back on topic, when I did research the legality, I determined that if the car was a model originally equipped with A/C, or an emissions / driveability related throttle control, mounted in the O.E. style, it would be legal.
Otherwise, absolutely not.
One could argue for a cable control, but only if it actuated the choke linkage fast idle.


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Interesting how it all always comes down to track's rules,
Recently saw where some tracks have lower et cutoff for Sportsman class than the sanctioning bodies class rules.
 
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Keep in mind that Pro class (no-box, transbrake okay) it's also illegal to have an adjustable starting line rev limiter within reach of the driver as well. Pick your setting pre-run, and roll with it.

"Local rules" always trump sanction suggestions.


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Keep in mind that Pro class (no-box, transbrake okay) it's also illegal to have an adjustable starting line rev limiter within reach of the driver as well. Pick your setting pre-run, and roll with it.

"Local rules" always trump sanction suggestions.


What is this?.....Within reach of the driver? You can't adjust your starting line RPM if you are in the car?

What in gods name is that supposed to eliminate?

The driver having a better chance at winning?

You can have every electronic aid except a box, but don't adjust your stage RPM! lol Razz
 
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