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Originally posted by Novacaine:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
Nobody we know has seen a Isky Tool Room spring go bad, as far as I can tell, they're permanent.

Perfect spring for ya Novacaine, these numbers
are similar to my sbc.

That is more what I'm looking for.

Coil bind 1.150 on these, just enough to set up anyway you prefer.

[RAD9999] Tool Room.

I edited, it's [9999RAD] Tool Room.

500 mile NASCAR technology

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Originally posted by Novacaine:

That's more what I think I need.

typical word used in all your threads..."I think" truth is you don't have a clue to what you need to achieve your on track goals and will never get it right following any advice from retard rietow with his 6 second nothing special POS and falling for the claims of the internet conmen and salesmen.

FYI, not one NASCAR Cup Series team uses that spring.

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Originally posted by Novacaine:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
Nobody we know has seen a Isky Tool Room spring go bad, as far as I can tell, they're permanent.

Perfect spring for ya Novacaine, these numbers
are similar to my sbc.



Coil bind 1.150 on these, just enough to set up anyway you prefer.

[RAD9999] Tool Room.

That's more what I think I need.

No their not, but installed height will dictate what spring you can use. If the valves are not long enough you cant use a taller installed height. And if the valves are too long then you will have to close up the gap so there is not too much.

Iskys are good springs, but have a damper which eats into ti retainers.
Manley 221424 are good.
PSI 1224
All are about the same open closed.

If you don't have a height mic and a spring tester, correct size shims, spring seats and retainers ya probably ought to have a shop set them up.

It may not be a pressure issue. I had an issue when I would get above 7150 and by tightening up my coil bind numbers with the same springs I got rid of it. It did up my seat pressure some but not a great deal. Obviously you need all the tools to measure where you are to close up coil bind numbers. I am running .070" on my intakes and you have to know for sure where you are when you start getting tight on them.

Another possibility is a geometry problem. Did you set up the valve train? How sure are you on geometry?

Many times just throwing spring at it will cover up a problem and that's why so many times that is the suggested path. Another option is looking at what rate your springs are and upping the rate without changing the installed dimensions much. Rate may help if you're running big heavy SS valves to control momentum. It's nice to know all the numbers of your valve train when you're fighting a problem. JMO

He has no problem! He thinks he needs a different spring because he thinks the car should be running quicker.

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Originally posted by 1320racer:

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Originally posted by Novacaine:

That's more what I think I need.

typical word used in all your threads..."I think" truth is you don't have a clue to what you need to achieve your on track goals and will never get it right following any advice from retard rietow with his 6 second nothing special POS and falling for the claims of the internet conmen and salesmen.

FYI, not one NASCAR Cup Series team uses that spring.

Would you do me a favor and not reply to any of my posts'

I have heard enough of your philosophy about your version of drag racing.. You arent allways right, but you think you are.

I have been on here for awhile and not once have I disrespected you in any way. And all you have done is disrespected me evry time I post Something. Again
PLEASE DONT RESPOUND TO ANY OF MY POSTS
Thank You

Ed is right you have enough spring now. Just saying

RacerVX54…Knows!

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Originally posted by Novacaine:

I have heard enough of your philosophy about your version of drag racing.. You arent allways right, but you think you are.

I have been on here for awhile and not once have I disrespected you in any way. And all you have done is disrespected me evry time I post Something. Again
PLEASE DONT RESPOUND TO ANY OF MY POSTS
Thank You

Not my philosophy, FACTS and the TRUTH!

Further you wouldn’t have a clue to who is right or wrong. I and others have tried to help you in your numerous posts questioning your on track performance where you continually use the words “I think”, thoughts that came as a result of what some knucklehead on line told you and/or sold you, yet it never produces the results you “think it will! The fact is you don’t want advice, you want confirmation of what you already decided to do so why post here. Call your internet conman/salesman and tell him you want new valve springs! He will be happy to take your $ again.

Last this is a public forum and I will continue to reply to threads when and where I chose.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: 1320racer,

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Originally posted by Novacaine:

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Originally posted by 1320racer:

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Originally posted by Novacaine:

That's more what I think I need.

typical word used in all your threads..."I think" truth is you don't have a clue to what you need to achieve your on track goals and will never get it right following any advice from retard rietow with his 6 second nothing special POS and falling for the claims of the internet conmen and salesmen.

FYI, not one NASCAR Cup Series team uses that spring.

Would you do me a favor and not reply to any of my posts'

I have heard enough of your philosophy about your version of drag racing.. You arent allways right, but you think you are.

I have been on here for awhile and not once have I disrespected you in any way. And all you have done is disrespected me evry time I post Something. Again
PLEASE DONT RESPOUND TO ANY OF MY POSTS
Thank You

The only relevant to the topic post was from Bad News, look into your installed height, if it's 2.000" or just under, the [9999RAD] Tool Room spring will be a good fit.

Like I said, nobody I know, has ever heard of a Tool Room spring failing. They're permanent.

It goes without saying, ignore tech from those who don't have any hands on experience, Bad News does build his own power plant, the same as I do.

Wanna be Ed uses whatever comes in the crate engine he orders over the phone.

I called Howard cams and they said my springs are coil binding and that it was to small. They said the same numbers you said. 250/765. #98825.

OP, weed through posts to the practical (hands on ) tech.

Racers who set up their own gears, build their own transmission and engine.

And win.

Posts from racers who know, with hands on championship experience.

I'll be glad to help ya if I can, anytime.

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Originally posted by Novacaine:
I called Howard cams and they said my springs are coil binding and that it was to small. They said the same numbers you said. 250/765. #98825.

You spoke to a minimum wage phone tech and of course they did, they want your money.

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Originally posted by 1320racer:

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Originally posted by Novacaine:
I called Howard cams and they said my springs are coil binding and that it was to small. They said the same numbers you said. 250/765. #98825.

You spoke to a minimum wage phone tech and of course they did, they want your money.

My Nova with a 8.5" slick on it vs your dragster would be a fair race, I think.

If you can talk your driver into it.

That would be a race I'd be interested in.

I rememeber when i thought astronomical spring pressures were needed to keep a valve closed. Then i got educated.

Exactly!

OP, don't let the Devil ^^^ drive your car... Don't do it

"This is a church song" LoL!

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Originally posted by Novacaine:
I called Howard cams and they said my springs are coil binding and that it was to small. They said the same numbers you said. 250/765. #98825.

My opinion, but guys need to quit putting valve springs on their engine with intent on making 1000 passes with them before they change them. Since putting springs on my engine that will make 150-200 passes, and changing them at that interval, my valve train looks way better and i do not beat lifters up as bad. Side benefit is it is faster with dual springs than triples. But to each their own.

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PLEASE DONT RESPOUND TO ANY OF MY POSTS

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Last this is a public forum and I will continue to reply to threads when and where I chose.

A prime example of why people think you are a disgusting piece of sh it, the guy asks not to post and you just have to thump your worthless chest and proclaim that you are the king, and nobody tells the king what to do. Got a news flash, king sh it, you are a nobody that thinks he is a king. Look in the mirror tomorrow morning and say damn, made it through another night, how did that happen?

Because you are a f ucking a sshole.
Maybe one day some one will do everybody a favor..... One can only hope.

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by Novacaine:

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Originally posted by 1320racer:

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Originally posted by Novacaine:

That's more what I think I need.

typical word used in all your threads..."I think" truth is you don't have a clue to what you need to achieve your on track goals and will never get it right following any advice from retard rietow with his 6 second nothing special POS and falling for the claims of the internet conmen and salesmen.

FYI, not one NASCAR Cup Series team uses that spring.

Would you do me a favor and not reply to any of my posts'

I have heard enough of your philosophy about your version of drag racing.. You arent allways right, but you think you are.

I have been on here for awhile and not once have I disrespected you in any way. And all you have done is disrespected me evry time I post Something. Again
PLEASE DONT RESPOUND TO ANY OF MY POSTS
Thank You

The only relevant to the topic post was from Bad News, look into your installed height, if it's 2.000" or just under, the [9999RAD] Tool Room spring will be a good fit.

Like I said, nobody I know, has ever heard of a Tool Room spring failing. They're permanent.

It goes without saying, ignore tech from those who don't have any hands on experience, Bad News does build his own power plant, the same as I do.

Wanna be Ed uses whatever comes in the crate engine he orders over the phone.

Tool steel springs dont like RPM when they are cold. Reving an engine before the engine is heat soaked is what most likely took those springs out.