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| DRR Top Comp |
Will the fiber optic dial boards work with just power and ground to the delay box? Our local no-box class requires the delay box to be unplugged but I’m hoping to still use the dial boards. Was thinking that as long as the delay functions don’t work I should be okay. It would be nice if the dial boards would work though. No shoe polish! Anyone?? Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right. Here I am....... | ||
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| DRR Pro |
Cash, call Kevin Rodden at K & R. There might be a way. My thought is that you will stir up a wasp's nest about having a powered delay box in the no-box class. Kevin sells a controller for the display. But now you have two units tied to the same display, which would require a switch. More complications. What are other racers in the same situation doing? Larry Woodfin | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
I was being lazy. I’m going to test it today. I think it will work. I’ll post back after I see. As long as there are no other wires hooked up or I tape them off where they can’t be hooked up I don’t see the problem. Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right. Here I am....... | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
It took longer to write the post than to test it. Works perfectly. I’ll tape off the trigger wires and that should do it. This car has two dial boards be a shame not to use them. Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right. Here I am....... | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
Sounds like HUGE argument first time you beat a someone and they see it. Or you win a race/ go to another track. KR sells a separate little box to drive the boards independent of the box. Far less controversy. yes you have to change box and that to match but once installed there is no screwing around. Think it was around 150 bucks. Hardest thing to do at that point is remember to put box back in car between rounds.  Configuration: 3350#, 582 C.I., 60 - 1.24 1/8 - 5.53@ 126MPH 1/4 - 8.73@ 159MPH  3700#+210lb driver, FULL interior, through mufflers, 10.5 tire. 60'-1.333 (IN 4000ft DA! Joisy Math excluded; 1.25sec using JOISY MATH.)  1/4 - 9.60@144MPH | |||
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| DRR Pro |
This is my general observation about delay boxes in no-box or Pro. It has become a problem since NHRA allow the same race vehicle to be used double entered into different classes. Our track rules & I think NHRA states the delay box needs removed in no-box/Pro. I can tell you it's not being done. This is my outlook on the issue. Any dragster I run in no-box/Pro I automatically assume they're using a box. I set my transbrake switch up for a tighter light. As for door car there are some that are not removing the box also. I do the same set-up as for a dragster. As for Vern/Cashflow & his track. That rule doesn't cut it with a quick disconnect wiring. It's too easy just to connect & disconnect. Not that I would worry about Vern doing that, but I would still race him like the other dragsters. Now, you probably are thinking why am I pointing mainly at dragsters. We literally had one dragster in Pro releasing the button off the top bulb; he disappeared after 2 or 3 races. As for most dragsters or even door cars, they're leaving off the bottom with the box. It's still an advantage leaving off the bottom with a box in a door car or dragster. It's especially an advantage to leave off the bottom with a dragster. Dragsters react way quicker than a door car, a small delay really helps them from going red. I'm always looking in cars & dragster for a box. Dragsters are easy to spot & many aren't removing the box, door cars are a little harder to spot. I have brought this up to our track manager & keep it to generalities as above & not diming out the person or specific race vehicle. The above is one of the reasons, not the main; I'm no-box racing in S/Pro this year. 2BKING   1980 Camaro Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before! 3100 lbs. Pump Gas 436 | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
Around here, there would be torches and pitchforks if there were boxes left in the car during Pro ET. Tony Leonard | |||
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| DRR Pro |
Lenny, When I emailed the track manager with the information & examples. I asked him what the procedures were for protesting, nothing but crickets. Only thing he did was put out a statement stating to ensure your race vehicle meets the requirements for the class you're running in. I didn't even bring up the new cars with trans brakes running in Sportsman. Last fall I ran 2 dragsters in separate races with delay boxes in them, one even had a throttle stop on it. I won one of the races & was very close on the other. My son wanted me to protest it, but there are no procedures for a protest. Plus, it was after the fact & they could easily say they installed it after the round of racing. The Pro/no-box class for the Spring Fling Million events started out with only allowing door cars. Somewhere around the 4th or 5th year they opened it up to everyone. It was pretty funny; the dragsters came in to try & cherry pick. They ended up leaving with their tails tucked with very few round wins. I don't remember too many showing up to race Pro after that year. I went to the semi-finals in S/Pro last race using no box & there was some playful talk/banter in the lanes about my lights. Especially the .001 light in the 2nd round. Also, a few races back C.W. Hoefer won S/Pro foot braking his Stock Eliminator car!  2BKING 1980 Camaro Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before! 3100 lbs. Pump Gas 436 | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
I am one that double enters most every race I go to with pro/Super pro. Box is always taken out, jumper plug put in. Way less drama that way. I can not believe any track or sanctioning body would would allow people in Pro to keep their boxes physically in car. Also at all the races; I have never seen a dragster in Pro. Altereds yes - but never a dragster. | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
I don't believe for a second that Vern would cheat. BUT I still wouldn't want anyone leaving a box in. If one does it that opens the door for anyone to do it. Really glad it's Footbrake only at the tracks I race the most. | |||
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| DRR Pro |
We have 2 dragsters that run consistently in Pro & don't double into S/Pro. They have been checked & have no-box that we can find. Any other dragsters doubling is suspect & I set-up accordingly. 2BKING 1980 Camaro Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before! 3100 lbs. Pump Gas 436 | |||
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| DRR Pro |
I agree, but it would leave him suspect from others. If racers are that adamant about doubling in two classes. Pull the box out, it removes most of the doubt. 2BKING 1980 Camaro Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before! 3100 lbs. Pump Gas 436 | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
Our track rules are that the box must be unplugged. I’ll clarify that next time I get out there. If there’s another box that controls the dial board then maybe I’ll just do that. I want to win fair and square so I’ll look things over and report back. Right now I’m getting ready to go roast my butt off in Phoenix at the National. Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right. Here I am....... | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
Good luck Vern. Ski we have dragsters run in Footbrake with us occasionally over here. | |||
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