http://promod.nhra.com/userfil...ments%2010-23-18.pdf

Guess I'm NOT RUNNING NHRA anymore since they took my class away.

BYE BYE.

There ya go.

Looks like the 1/8th mile minimum is now 3.70 from 3.66. Since the PDRA follows NHRA T/D rules wonder if the minimum dial will now be 3.70 in the PDRA

we all knew it was coming and its for our own safety.
but they should have compromised on the other end and done like a 7.50/4.70

I don't have a dog in this fight, but why the tenth? Is it to keep people from ever going 5.99 or faster? I predicted a while back that soon there would be a few T/D races that would be like a 6.00 Super Comp.(that would be cool to watch) I guess now those races will be like a 6.10 Super Comp.

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I don't have a dog in this fight, but why the tenth? Is it to keep people from ever going 5.99 or faster? I predicted a while back that soon there would be a few T/D races that would be like a 6.00 Super Comp.(that would be cool to watch) I guess now those races will be like a 6.10 Super Comp

Yes exactly. I believe the thinking is to allow cars to breakout under the minimum dial in without violating their chassis cert and license minimums.

If I am reading the rule correctly you can still qualify up to a 6.00. Your dial in can just not be faster. In other words you want to set up to run 6.05 and keep .05 in your pocket more power to you. I don't think Im good enough to do that at that speed but some on here probably could and do if not even more

I really don't see this as being a major change to the class.

Another positive I see in there is it appears they increased the number of national events that they are contesting TD at which is a plus for the class.

Although I understand the thinking behind the rule, it just don't make too much sense to me! No reason not to leave it like it was and if you run under 6 flat you better have the right equipment, chassis cert etc to do so or suffer the consequences which should be stiff! Once this type of rule is put in place and it actually was enforced, problem solved !

BJ , if your right about qualifying, which btw makes absolutely no sense, that's even worse, having a 6.0 car holding 5 and hitting the breaks up top....

With the "enhanced" traction compound applications at Nationals I'll never race another National event.
First and Last National event I went to this year was a waste of time and money. I didn't get down the track once under full power.
I'm all set with that.

My point is they could have us at EVERY race but with out them prepping the track what's the sense.


AL gets it.
Just enforce what is there. Now you'll have all the fast guys lifting at the thousand to get in, then for elims flat footing then spiking the brakes as they are going by.
We ALL know no one is is going to slow their car down for only a tenth, just smash the binders.
WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG.

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Although I understand the thinking behind the rule, it just don't make too much sense to me! No reason not to leave it like it was and if you run under 6 flat you better have the right equipment, chassis cert etc to do so or suffer the consequences which should be stiff! Once this type of rule is put in place and it actually was enforced, problem solved !

I was half joking abut the holding 5. You know where I stand on brake pedal racing.

I agree with you that enforcing it the other way would have been fine as well provided it was enforced consistently.

As for having a car legal to go in the 5s there is no sportsman cert or license for under 6.00. It would have a be TAD legal car. Its not just cert and license. Its certified wing struts, non powder coated chassis, titanium bell around the cage etc. etc.

Again IMO we are talking .010 Im not going to sweat it over a tenth.

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Just enforce what is there.

I think the problem with this was "what was there" was open to interpretation. Frank you yourself argued a few years back that a 5.99 was nothing more than a breakout.And in fact it was handled that way in some cases. In other cases racers were being warned or even thrown out. Nothing had changed in the wording of the rules until now I am curious what has changed that you now feel that a car running 5.99 should be tossed?

I personally was and am in favor of seeing them adjust the SFI certifications to a 5.90. To me it seems like that should not be that difficult. Others seem to disagree.

BJ
Nothing has changed.
I've always been for just enforcing the rules.
What I was stating WAS the way NHRA was handling it, it was for YEARS ONLY considered a breakout. THAT WAS MY POINT.
In lieu of messing up the class, I think they should have just enforced what was there.

If it's a toss out so be it. If it's one warning then a toss out so be it.
My issue NOW with all this BS is NHRA STILL has not stated what is going to happen when someone goes 5.99 which can (and I bet will) happen very easily.
If any of the 3.80 (or faster) PDRA guys want to run a divisional or national that's close to him they will be lifting at half track to not go 5.99.
Heck, just having a fresh blower can do it.

Anyway, they made my mind up by taking the ET away.
I didn't build what I built to go SLOWER and have to lift and spike the brakes every run.

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Originally posted by pentastarrail:
My issue NOW with all this BS is NHRA STILL has not stated what is going to happen when someone goes 5.99 which can (and I bet will) happen very easily.

Why do you assume that something would change in their handling of it, and a statement is necessary?

My guess is that it will still just be a qualifying DQ or large breakout; they just took away the incentive for everyone to be right on the edge of the SFI regulations so it should happen far less often.

Why is the only answer to "smash" your brake pedal at the finish line?
Can't you just take a degree or two of timing out and slow the car to run 6.10 flat out?
Why the drama?

There is certainly no way to make everyone happy with this. Maybe they will still clarify the 5.99 issue.

Being new to TD and also having a car that has ran in the 6.0x my opinion is it will do 2 things, #1 it will hurt the egos of some having to slow there cars down a little, some may have options like the PDRA but most of the country does not so either they slow down or quit.

#2 It will make for some really tight racing in the top half of the field, take Ennis this year there was 16 cars from 6.03-6.13, now take those 16 cars and put them at 6.10-6.13, you dam well better be on the tree

I think the hot ticket is slow your car down low and run big speed out the back, Danny Nelson has been testing a high gear only set up and has gone 6.05 at 240, Jimmy Sackuvich has gone over 240 numerous times and as fast as 249 mph running in the 6.0 to 6.10 range.
I am Just saying don't just say everyone's going to stand on there brakes to slow down because there is lots of ways to slow down but go really fast at the same time, think of it as a challenge and work on your combo

Running soft early is a great way to be more consistent too, after all it's still "just" bracket racing...………………….

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Originally posted by "The Bender":
Running soft early is a great way to be more consistent too, after all it's still "just" bracket racing...………………….

Bender knows!!

Now if we could just get him on the long track a couple of times next year....

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Originally posted by Big Steve:

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Originally posted by "The Bender":
Running soft early is a great way to be more consistent too, after all it's still "just" bracket racing...………………….

Bender knows!!

Now if we could just get him on the long track a couple of times next year....

Ain't gonna happen...……….

No dog in this fight.

Why doesn't the NHRA drop the ET cutoff to 5.90 instead?

They dropped the roll bar / fire jacket rule from 11.99 to 11.49 years ago.

Holy crap!

6.0x at 249. I hope that guy isn't trying to look over at the stripe!