Curious to know how most racers would feel about some sort of time limit enforcement initiated to racers not wanting to prestage or stage. I see and watch this all the time and it really adds to time overall of races. It can be a tough decision to the guy in the water box to either shut their engine off or continue to get warmer.
Just would like to see how other racers feel about this.

The same as we felt the last 2 times this was asked and I still vote NO! Staging is gamesmanship

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no different than wheel turners, no different than those that back up at a snails pace slowing lighting the stage then prestage bulbs then stopping and if you want to get home for dinner tell the track owner, manager, promoter to have the lanes full at all times, drivers ready to run and burnouts started as soon as the pair in front have cleared the 60 foot blocks.

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I get it about the track doing their part, however, I'm talking about the d*ck around guys doing their 30 second routines after burn outs staring at the other driver not wanting to move towards prestage line.

If you want to really speed things up, get rid of dragsters. LOL Sure won't be a very popular idea though.

Some people are notorious for taking a lot of time to get in. I guess I never really think about it too much. I'm usually waiting on everyone.

Again, staging is gamesmanship and there’s a lot of money on the line at this big $ bracket racers. Anything a racer can do to rattle his competitor or not alter his routine, smart, successful, winning racers are doing.

with 1290 on this. much more time lost between pairs and waiting on cars to get to the lanes than a handful of slow pre-stagers. if i know i am running some one who has a slow routine, i go slower than them.

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I don't see why so many people make such a big deal about staging. I do my thing, then prestage. Once the other racer prestages I roll in...if they stage before me, ok. If not, ok too...doesn't matter to me, it's a bracket race...

I have to laugh about how anal some people are about this...it's comical to me.

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Originally posted by Coloradoracer:
I don't see why so many people make such a big deal about staging.

It’s not so many, not an issue that anyone is biotching about in race day, it’s only a thing for a few on this forum.

Does not matter much to me. Here is my thoughts on it.

Make the rules, payout and stick to it and we will decide where we want to race.

There was one track around here that would post say $5,000 to win No/E and NO BUYBACKS. No problem but when you get there they lower the payout or have Buybacks.

I actually like Buyback races but I want to know what the rules are and how much we are racing for BEFORE I pay entry and race. With a buyback race I tend to hit it a little harder on the tree knowing if I go too far I could buyback.

If they had a Shot Clock or no Shot Clock does not matter to me as long as we are aware of it before we race and they do not do it for some people and not for others.

Now I do think if starter tells them to stage and they refuse he should Disqualify them and run the next pair who do want to race. Same deal though when I strap in I am ready to go and I will not play that game. If my opponent does I just laugh at him and hit my radiator fan, once it reaches certain temp it will come on and keep it there.

I will say I do not play games but I have been guilty of taking my own sweet time to stage when someone Double bulbs me.

My thinking is I have to have the better package than my opponent so in the end it is up to me to concentrate on my job and do my best. Part of that is not letting them get into your head.

As for those who drag their tail late up to the Staging lanes Larry at Texas Raceway put a stop to that. He would call you up there like 3 times and then he would close the staging lanes and you were out if you did not make it in time. People quickly learned when he called you to the lanes you went if you wanted to race.

They had a strict curfew and he did not allow them to play staging games or play around getting up there.
So to me it is all about the track manager keeping order to make it go smooth and fast.

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Originally posted by Curly1:
I will say I do not play games but I have been guilty of taking my own sweet time to stage when someone Double bulbs me.

No surprise, they in your club where a .100 bulb is killing it, are as clueless as you

Same as always you have nothing intelligent to say only insults. Bless your Heart.

Staging first or last or at the same time doesn't matter to me, I just want to bust someone in the mouth. In the end we're all here to race and have fun and hopefully cash some checks.

It's only a thing for me if I know it's a thing for them. We have a local.....who is a decent enough fella, I have no beef with him....who was slow when he would stage his son in jr's. Now they have a door car, and the routine is super slow there too including adjusting the wheelie bars every run. In a bracket door car. LOL.
If we snag them, we simply take our time even starting the car. Hold! Hold! LOL.
He's used to others waiting on them. Making them wait on us can't hurt. Folks assume that because we have turbo cars, that we need to stage a certain way. We have made sure that is not the case. So that throws folks now and then too.
Mostly we just do our thing. I wouldn't mind a shot clock. It could add something and it could speed stuff up. But at the local races we generally aren't finishing at midnight anyhow. So why rile up the natives? Just more drama. Plus, you will get dragsters backing up at speeds that may not be safe for the starting line crew. Why encourage that?

I do kinda like the concept though. In manufacturing sometimes we will do a blitz taking out all the stops (except safety) to find what the fastest unit time really can be. And to find the wasters of time that hide in our processes. We might be surprised at how much more quickly a race could be run. Heck the track crew could probably find some things out about their process as well.
Really only useful in the big races that run to the wee hours of the night. We really don't enjoy those anyhow.

Didn’t you leave here? Nope they never do!

Back on topic… I don’t want to speed up the race, I want to slow it down! I’ve got a lot of time and $ invested in my racing program, I want to enjoy it. I’m there to race for the weekend not to rush back home.

After my burnout I roll all the way to the prestage light. As soon as the numbers are on the board I am in the light. Not for any reason other than I am just ready to race. I have had some ask why I'm rushing them. They obviously have no idea how the tree actually works.

I'm just sitting there, take your time I don't care. Get in first I don't care. With courtesy staging there really isn't much that someone can do to cause a problem if you go in at a reasonable time frame.

There are a couple of guys that we race with on the National level that are known for being the slowest to prestage.

If I’m racing one of them I’ll just shut the car off and then restart and move forward after they finally prestage. No big deal.

I'm old and very retired, I'm in no particular hurry to get anywhere so someone wanting to play games means absolutely nothing to me. I do find it entertaining though.

Bob

Bob, I wouldn't call it games. Good, winning racers have their routine and no one is going to rush them or force them to change it.

Tunring the wheel to falsely activate the tree ain't nobody's routine.

It's many a racer's routine and not illegal