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Originally posted by Mark Cmar:
if i bump in an inch or 2 accidentally i get disqualified ?

No. Sorry, I misread an earlier post as meaning deep staging "accidentally on purpose", rather than simply taking some extra bumps but still keeping the pre-stage lit.

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Originally posted by Mark Cmar:
if i bump in an inch or 2 accidentally i get disqualified ?

Good question. I don't know how it works in box. I have raced where there is no deep staging allowed in FB or NB. If you turn the top off or even double bulb you get backed out or disqualified.
If you roll deep in box where they don't allow deep staging what happens? Do they program the tree to red light you?
The backing up deal is NG as last movement must be forward.

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Originally posted by Eman:

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Originally posted by Mark Cmar:
if i bump in an inch or 2 accidentally i get disqualified ?

Good question. I don't know how it works in box. I have raced where there is no deep staging allowed in FB or NB. If you turn the top off or even double bulb you get backed out or disqualified.
If you roll deep in box where they don't allow deep staging what happens? Do they program the tree to red light you?
The backing up deal is NG as last movement must be forward.

No. As long as the pre-stage stays on, you're fine.

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NHRA Southeast Division 2

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Well, we made it public at the NHRA Southeast Banquet a few hours ago. New for 2018, there’s an 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series at Atlanta, Rockingham, Carolina House Of Hook, Piedmont Dragway , Orangeburg, and Mooresville Dragway. Grade points. Wally Trophies. Division Championship title and invitation to the banquet at Jekyll Island. Crate Motor cars have a home. Familiar faces on the tech crew. Great race tracks! More positive news to come. Welcome to Division 2. #myracingfamily. #nhra

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Piedmont is going to host an NHRA event? Have they decided to switch over from the IHRA? Take care. Tom Worthington

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How do racers from division 4 race with out deep staging? It has not been allowed here in 15+ years. Turn the top light out and your done.

Do not argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

The reason i started this post to begin with was to bring attention to alienating slower racers. While it really doesnt make a crap to me, the other 3 racers I fund that have slower cars,,it does....Traditionally, over the past years, this area of the mid atlantic, southeast, has been hard nosed,,deepstaging, no button racers ....it is very interesting in seeing how this "No deepstaging, Button racing non electronic is going to take off in that area"

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You know Tim, those of us who DEEP stage are cheaters...and they must be scared to race against us

So the magnetic strips and display for "inching it in" is BADDD???
IHRA has no clue, maybe if some of them actually raced or had to pay for their own racing....it would be different?
MSD Grids to help traction on bad tracks, throttle enhancers, tree-blockers, good drivers, skill, luck, maybe all of that should be deemed illegal. What is wrong with everyone.
Want to go deep? put it on the car and let them do it. WOW, can't be that difficult can it. MAYBE put the starter back in charge of actually "starting the races" OMG, the humanity of it all.
Wonder why bracket racing is dying off? Just read this whole string of posts, its getting clearer where the issues lie.

Disappointing to be part of it. Big races grow, local tracks have to switch to Test and Tune and No-Prep..to survive.

Looks like NHRA might be taking care of this problem for us---Piedmont and Mooresville now NHRA!

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Originally posted by Toad1:
So the magnetic strips and display for "inching it in" is BADDD???
IHRA has no clue, maybe if some of them actually raced or had to pay for their own racing....it would be different?
MSD Grids to help traction on bad tracks, throttle enhancers, tree-blockers, good drivers, skill, luck, maybe all of that should be deemed illegal. What is wrong with everyone.
Want to go deep? put it on the car and let them do it. WOW, can't be that difficult can it. MAYBE put the starter back in charge of actually "starting the races" OMG, the humanity of it all.
Wonder why bracket racing is dying off? Just read this whole string of posts, its getting clearer where the issues lie.

Disappointing to be part of it. Big races grow, local tracks have to switch to Test and Tune and No-Prep..to survive.

I have no problem with deep staging. I wish it was legal here because I think it would help possibly boost participation (but so would going back to a true footbrake class).

But my point is, there hasnt been deep in this state for a very long time.

If there was a rule that said NO red cars are permitted,but you owned a red car.............
Would you paint it a different color or quit?

If there is a rule that says NO deep staging.......

Will some just adapt or quit?

I race in Stock Eliminator where NO deep staging is permitted.

There was quite a bit of controversy when it was eliminated.

Some of the most notorius deep stagers can no longer deep stage,but still win.

Yes,they made some changes to the car.And some of the changes were cheaper than a paint job.

I have a ?

What is the percentage % of racers at any event that allows deep staging that use this method on the East/ SE Coast?? 10 – 30 - 50 % ???

If 100 cars were racing a FB class (No Box class equivalent), how many would have Deep on the Car ???

A good many where it is allowed. And yes some have quit because of not being allowed to deep stage, some quit because of no-box, some quit because of double entries, and some quit because of buy backs, and some quit just because of the BS that happens----so, how many more reasons should we create to encourage people to quit? And what have we done lately to encourage someone to enter our sport? Think about it.

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What is the percentage % of racers at any event that allows deep staging that use this method on the East/ SE Coast?? 10 – 30 - 50 % ???

Good question,,,you may have to ask Mike Beard on that one......but here is another good question.....what is the bottom line profit margin on most businesses?? 10 % 20% 50%??

Ive raced nearly all over the country...even out of the country...no where does the participation, car count and number of tracks equal this 5 state area.....

Its a good deal for box racers.....for footers, ???? if deeping is not allowed, most likey thats going to reduce the rounds by 1 in the foot/non electronic side. So they will probably mix around round 7....with buy backs,,,most likely a 10 round race.

IF they wanted a mega turnout, should have mixed cars at 4 or even took winners of each class to run for the top money.

BUT here is a good thought,,,,there are a hand full of racers that can compete or most of the time win a box class "footbraking",,,,,half of them are hanging out at or around the Farmington racetrack....Our gang will be cheering for them !!!

I fought this very same fight in 1976 , although the reasons for banning it were different.

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Originally posted by markemark:
I have a ?

What is the percentage % of racers at any event that allows deep staging that use this method on the East/ SE Coast?? 10 – 30 - 50 % ???

If 100 cars were racing a FB class (No Box class equivalent), how many would have Deep on the Car ???

That is a good question, and I think it depends on the “event” that you’re at?? The local tracks around my area, I’m gonna say less than 10%. But I’d say for the bigger events and depending on the track (rollout playing a factor) I’m gonna say you can average 30% DEEP stagers. I know it seems most of the Jersey guys that travel south seem to DEEP stage and some with some pretty fast cars (6.20 and faster in the 1/8th) Do I think some of the local racers should actually be DEEP staging to be more competitive? YES, but it’s hard to convince people who have raced a certain way for a while and get them to want to change. Likewise with these percentages we are talking about, beginners or even some who’ve raced for a while see the “majority” shallow stage and figure that’s what they should be doing. I shallow staged for years and never had an issue but now that I’ve switched to DEEP staging it makes me wonder if I should have DEEP staged years ago? But that’s in the past

Mark I remember coming to Bloomington Ind to a race years ago and all 3 of us were deep staging. No one there had ever seen a deep stager before. Tim is right about the Farm racers but--at least one of those is a deep stager!

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I fought this very same fight in 1976 , although the reasons for banning it were different

you guys were cheating,,,,same way chad (Lizzard) cheats now,,,,LOL !!!

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I know it seems most of the Jersey guys that travel south seem to DEEP stage

I thought that was "THE" rule up north....LOL !!!