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Originally posted by manny:
I have numerous time slips to prove you wrong! The advantage is all in your head!

Manny Sousa

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Originally posted by 62Galaxie:
Eman..... I have compiled stats at my home track using points races and ONLY eliminator rounds from the printouts of these events. There is NO QUESTION that using a delay box is better than pure FB for reaction times. That is why delay boxes were invented. From the stats at MY track, delay box has about a .020 advantage (AVERAGE) in RT. Please note; AVERAGE. That gap would narrow if you do the same at a $$$$$ race. But there will still be an advantage to the delay box. That is not a debatable subject. Transbrake/2 step is somewhere in between delay box and pure FB. In the hands of dedicated racers, IMHO, TB/2 step would would have an advantage over pure FB. There will always be exceptions to these AVERAGES by certain individuals.

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
Footbrake is dead

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Originally posted by Eman:

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Originally posted by 62Galaxie:
Eman..... I have compiled stats at my home track using points races and ONLY eliminator rounds from the printouts of these events. There is NO QUESTION that using a delay box is better than pure FB for reaction times. That is why delay boxes were invented. From the stats at MY track, delay box has about a .020 advantage (AVERAGE) in RT. Please note; AVERAGE. That gap would narrow if you do the same at a $$$$$ race. But there will still be an advantage to the delay box. That is not a debatable subject. Transbrake/2 step is somewhere in between delay box and pure FB. In the hands of dedicated racers, IMHO, TB/2 step would would have an advantage over pure FB. There will always be exceptions to these AVERAGES by certain individuals.

Let's slow down. I didn't compare footbrake to box racing as being even. I just said there is no magic in the box like many think there is. I know there is a good reason for delay boxes and people wouldn't buy or use them if there wasn't. But it's not as easy as some make it look.

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Originally posted by 62Galaxie:
Manny, I don't think you are listening. Of course you can provide time slips of no box cars beating box cars. No one is claiming they can't. But I'll say it again, the AVERAGE reaction time of a delay box car is significantly better than the AVERAGE reaction time in FB. There is a reason the 2 classes run separetly, don't you think?

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by 62Galaxie:
Manny, I don't think you are listening. Of course you can provide time slips of no box cars beating box cars. No one is claiming they can't. But I'll say it again, the AVERAGE reaction time of a delay box car is significantly better than the AVERAGE reaction time in FB. There is a reason the 2 classes run separetly, don't you
think?

The average is why no footbraker ever has, or ever will dominate Super Pro anywhere, at any track on this planet, in reality.

Of course your right. No footbraker has ever even footbraked his/her way to a final round in Super Pro at Sunshine, at least not in the 10 years I ran the joint with my street car on a 10" tire.

Of course you're right 62Galaxie.

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Originally posted by manny:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by 62Galaxie:
Manny, I don't think you are listening. Of course you can provide time slips of no box cars beating box cars. No one is claiming they can't. But I'll say it again, the AVERAGE reaction time of a delay box car is significantly better than the AVERAGE reaction time in FB. There is a reason the 2 classes run separetly, don't you
think?

The average is why no footbraker ever has, or ever will dominate Super Pro anywhere, at any track on this planet, in reality.

Of course your right. No footbraker has ever even footbraked his/her way to a final round in Super Pro at Sunshine, at least not in the 10 years I ran the joint with my street car on a 10" tire.

Of course you're right 62Galaxie.

I won Super Pro, footbraking at Showtime in a 9.70 Malibu Wagon (Diane Burch’s) and have won in my Fairmont at Bradenton, Immokalee and Lakeland. You are full of ****!

Manny Sousa

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
Showtime is weak, you can win a Super Pro race at Showtime in 5 rounds.

It ain't Sunshine Caliber.

But you already know that.

It was Sunshine in 2000 asshat!

Manny Sousa

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Originally posted by manny:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
Showtime is weak, you can win a Super Pro race at Showtime in 5 rounds.

It ain't Sunshine Caliber.

But you already know that.

It was Sunshine in 2000 asshat!

Manny Sousa

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by manny:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
Showtime is weak, you can win a Super Pro race at Showtime in 5 rounds.

It ain't Sunshine Caliber.

But you already know that.

It was Sunshine in 2000 asshat!

Manny Sousa

That's a total Bull**** lie.

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Originally posted by manny:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by manny:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
Showtime is weak, you can win a Super Pro race at Showtime in 5 rounds.

It ain't Sunshine Caliber.

But you already know that.

It was Sunshine in 2000 asshat!

Manny Sousa

That's a total Bull**** lie.

100 percent fact. Beat the late, great Vic Fera in the final. I was .000 Had Matt Burch riding with me. In fact, it was the night he got banned by ****enson. Get your head out of your ass you douche!!!

Manny Sousa