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Remove him from office and we get Kamala, remove them both and we get Pelosi. Back to the drawing board.

When the enemy has you outflanked, well they have you outflanked. Credit where credit's due.

Take the House and Senate back in '22, GOP appoints Trump Speaker of the House, he impeaches them both and becomes President again. Simple.

(Yes, Congress can appoint anyone they choose, does not have to be a member of Congress or elected in any way.)

This is the only strategy that might work- but not with Trump. Trump has needlessly alienated too many voters, even many Republicans and as a result he will never again be elected to a national public office. The man is just not presidential and he comes across as a loud mouth, know-it-all, New York blowhard. His victory in 2016 was an anomaly due to his opponent's unpopularity and he lost in 2020 due to his unpopularity.

I really don't know what it means to be "Presidential". Is it to say things some people want to hear to make them feel better about themselves? Is it to nuthug virtue signaling celebs and lick the taint of terrorists and other unfriendly countries? At some point isn't it time to just say it how it is and let the chips fall where they may? For FAR FAR too long we have had weak kneed Republicans who went along to get along in Washington. Bush 2 we all know really wasn't the leader of anything. Everything going on behind him was what was really going on. We need Republican leadership who tells it like it is and maybe hurts some feelings here and there. If the soft feelings Republicans don't want to vote for that, well they have a choice. It's what you see in office today. If you elect a Mike Pence, you will get a guy who gets along in Washington and always has. A guy who knows the inner workings...and you will also net nothing as a Conservative over the course of his years in office. Then the left gets their chance, and they make leaps and bounds progress on their agendas.
Basically, IMO you are wrong. Yes some voters were offended by Trump's direct approach with little regard to the collateral damage. If their feelings are that damned important they can keep voting for corruption.

Oh and we need to stop electing career politicians for anything. We have few enough real leaders in this nation. But you can be damn sure most of the ones we do have aren't in politics.

If not Trump who would you suggest? Who else has the balls to stand up to the career politicians in both parties that are beholden to every lobbiest that ever walked. Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Shumer, Hoyer, the whole bunch. They have all lived off of us for to long. Wake up America!

Ben Carson said it best. Politicians say they can solve our problems. Politicians could be the problem.

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Let this be motivation for all of us to encourage all of our conservative friends and family to get the hell out and vote at the mid term and every time thereafter. We are about out of chances here

Doesn't do much good to vote when the counting is rigged. It was a record number of votes, and about 20 million were fraudulent.

It’s called “Demerica” now!

That’s what I call it anyway...

Term limits never needed more than now.

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Another 9-11 is coming.

Biden insured that the Afghan Terrorists will be back, and it will be worse thanks in part to all the armament that he allowed to be left behind.

I don't know if he's a total moron, mentally incompetitent , or complicit with the enemy. In any case he needs to be (Legally) Impeached.

Bob
Impeachment alone has no meaning. Remove him from office and we get Kamala, remove them both and we get Pelosi. Back to the drawing board.

Keep Impeaching them (Biden / Harris / Pelosi) until you end up with someone with common sense and honesty.

Doing nothing is not an option, it will create a Civil War in America. The stupidity of this Biden Administration is beyond words.

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Keep Impeaching them (Biden / Harris / Pelosi) until you end up with someone with common sense and honesty.

Doing nothing is not an option, it will create a Civil War in America. The stupidity of this Biden Administration is beyond words.

Bob

Impeachment is no longer a source of Justice, it is a Political action. Trump was "Impeached" for much less than Biden does almost every day. But the Democrats will never Impeach a Democrat. And with MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD I do not know if Republicans will ever win again.

The vote wasn't 'rigged'.
There was no massive 'voter fraud'.
So the election wasn't letter perfect. No election was ever perfect. Get over it or get used to Democrats in charge forever.
The election wasn't stolen, Trump threw it away and it wasn't even close. Trump is his own worst enemy, his ego, his vanity and his mouth lost the election and Biden didn't even have to work at beating Trump; Trump himself made it easy.
You want to be mad at someone, be mad at Trump- he's the one who betrayed your trust with his foolish and childish remarks on anything and everything that caught his attention.
"Sometimes it is best to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."
No one was a bigger, more vocal supporter of Trump than my wife Beverly and me but we have our standards and expectations and we're not going to discard them to give blind support to anyone. We voted for Trump twice and we strongly supported his policies, but not his personality.
The Cult of Trump, "Support Trump no matter what" will guarantee Democrat victories for many years.

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The vote wasn't 'rigged'.
There was no massive 'voter fraud'.
So the election wasn't letter perfect. No election was ever perfect. Get over it or get used to Democrats in charge forever.
The election wasn't stolen, Trump threw it away and it wasn't even close. Trump is his own worst enemy, his ego, his vanity and his mouth lost the election and Biden didn't even have to work at beating Trump; Trump himself made it easy.
You want to be mad at someone, be mad at Trump- he's the one who betrayed your trust with his foolish and childish remarks on anything and everything that caught his attention.
"Sometimes it is best to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."
No one was a bigger, more vocal supporter of Trump than my wife Beverly and me but we have our standards and expectations and we're not going to discard them to give blind support to anyone. We voted for Trump twice and we strongly supported his policies, but not his personality.
The Cult of Trump, "Support Trump no matter what" will guarantee Democrat victories for many years.

Do you reeeeaaaly believe that over 40 MILLION more legal voters than in 2016 came out in 2020, and voted D?
Republicans gained seats in places where Biden "won"?? I don't believe that many voting idiots split their tickets.
I'll never be convinced that there were not massive shenanigans.

We should go back to the Constitutional voting requirements, ONLY PROPERTY OWNERS get a vote.

18 is too young to buy beer or a handgun, but voting at 16 would be great?????

Goob, it doesn't really matter what you 'believe'.
Facts are facts and arithmetic is arithmetic; no need to exaggerate, the results were bad enough.
2016 total votes: 129 million.
2020 total votes: 156 million.
The difference is 27 million, not 40 million.
Biden is president and it's going to stay that way for at least four years whether we like it or not.
Why not get over it and support a Republican who has a realistic chance of winning?
We are on the same side, just a different approach to going forward.

Yet more and more evidence comes to light that many, many fraudulent votes were counted. If you honestly believe the election was honest you're living in the dark.

Right, Mark.
Formal, official Trump challenges to election results: 65
Trump wins: 0

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Formal, official Trump challenges to election results: 65
Trump wins: 0

There is truth, there are lies and then there are statistics. I'll concede you figures are correct, or nearly correct. While they are presented to represent the merit/validity of the cases, they are misrepresenting the facts. Many cases were denied the ability to be heard because of "lack of standing". A legal loop hole, so a preponderance of the evidence was never heard. Your statistics imply they were and lost, they were not.

Dem folks want to get rid of the electoral system for some reason..

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Formal, official Trump challenges to election results: 65
Trump wins: 0

There is truth, there are lies and then there are statistics. I'll concede you figures are correct, or nearly correct. While they are presented to represent the merit/validity of the cases, they are misrepresenting the facts. Many cases were denied the ability to be heard because of "lack of standing". A legal loop hole, so a preponderance of the evidence was never heard. Your statistics imply they were and lost, they were not.

CV, if you think the facts were misrepresented, where is your PROOF? The FACTS are Trump lost every single challenge- every one!!! I suppose it was some enormous conspirancy involving thousands of 'never Trumpers'? A future Trump victory anywhere is a wishful fantasy. I've said my piece and I'm done.

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The FACTS are Trump lost every single challenge- every one!!!

No, the statistics as stated are accurate, I conceded that. A denial to hear the case based on a legal technicality is not a "loss" based on the merits of the case(s). You would have to have at least two different charts to represent the accuracy of those numbers. Cases filed vs. cased heard and lost. One's ability to separate the wheat from the chaff is paramount in deciphering the truth (facts of the matter), especially in today's environment.

Dave

An Aug. 29 drone strike targeting terrorists in Afghanistan mistakenly killed innocent civilians, including children, Pentagon officials admitted Friday.

"We now assess it is unlikely that the vehicle and those who died were associated with ISIS-K," Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, the head of U.S. Central Command, said. "It was a mistake."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...yzFR?ocid=uxbndlbing

Barack Obama was right about exactly one thing that Joe Biden could 'f--- things up.'

For all of those that think the Repubs are going to swoop in and save America. This is classic RINO behavior and the reason a repub majority is perpetually ineffective. We all know how Cotton likes to get in front of the camera during committee hearing and strut his piercing lawyer questioning. It's all smoke and mirrors to keep the pot stirred, all verbiage and no action required.