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Originally posted by Goob:

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Originally posted by BP758:
A Honda 3000EU would be in the trunk!

From what I can gather, it's not powerful enough to charge one of these pieces of crap.

I could get behind a vehicle that is electric driven with a gasoline or diesel generator, like a locomotive.

Wasn't the Chevy Volt originally done that way?

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:

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LOL, yeah, the interwebs are a great source of real world, unbiased information.

I ask because of the video posted by that young lady, who was furious about the reality versus the BS she had been fed.
I think she was saying it was $45 or $50 bucks every 200 miles or so, and the hours of travel time wasted finding a charge

Re-read your post, but slowly...

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Originally posted by vetman:
I find it very sad that this RACING site has become a uber right-wing cryin poster place -what a waste of time to come here Im done bye losers

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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Originally posted by vetman:
I find it very sad that this RACING site has become a uber right-wing cryin poster place -what a waste of time to come here Im done bye losers

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
you ain't leaving. those that announce their departure, the drama queens like you never leave!

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Originally posted by vetman:
I find it very sad that this RACING site has become a uber right-wing cryin poster place -what a waste of time to come here Im done bye losers

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Originally posted by Tim Mitchell:
I watched a video on you tube of this lady charging her tesla in some unknown dudes driveway at his Tesla installed charging station. He comes outside and ask this lady what she is doing, she says "I'm charging my car ,this site is listed on tesla website as a charging location". He's like really, well it's cool go ahead but this is my personal station. WTF No way some total stranger would be running my light bill up. So Goob to answer your question, it won't cost you a penny if you use a tesla owners charging station. Apparently locations are listed on the website.
I did see a station at a hotel in Kentucky 2.50 per hour.

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Originally posted by vetman:
I find it very sad that this RACING site has become a uber right-wing cryin poster place -what a waste of time to come here Im done bye losers

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Originally posted by CrewMan:
About the question earlier on load and sizing.....

For a 4 charger commercial application....it required us to install a step down transformer from the main motor control center (which by the way these things used one entire bucket in that thing) and then put in an additional 250A 208v panel in - with a dedictaed 40A breaker for each station. Think about that...and this is for a commercial application...so your hotels and other charging places will be similar.

Not every business has that amount of open power to take from and residential applications....unless you worked with the power company if you custom built will even come close to having that much power available in a residence. Most homes have 100-150A service distributed through the house anyway and a good portion of that is taken up through dedicated circuitry for washers, dryers, HVAC equipment, microwaves, ovens etc...

So if someone wants to "up" their home service for one of these charging stations they are looking at a pretty significant investment and residential power work is a total PITA because NOBODY has any idea how much load they actually suck up until it's to late and it becomes the OH S H Y T....what circuit can we live without.

You wouldn't need the giant equipment I had to install but you will most likely need to increase service amperage, which will likely require a new panel and re wiring...and then either an exterior station or dedicated circuitry in the garage or outside to charge. Toss in underground fees, permits, etc....it just doesn't work.

I don't have a problem with these applications....I think it is kinda cool...but overall....something like is this NEVER a savings....it is an investment with a very long if ever and ROI based on the useful life of a car or a system such as this.

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Originally posted by CrewMan:
About the question earlier on load and sizing.....

For a 4 charger commercial application....it required us to install a step down transformer from the main motor control center (which by the way these things used one entire bucket in that thing) and then put in an additional 250A 208v panel in - with a dedictaed 40A breaker for each station. Think about that...and this is for a commercial application...so your hotels and other charging places will be similar.

Not every business has that amount of open power to take from and residential applications....unless you worked with the power company if you custom built will even come close to having that much power available in a residence. Most homes have 100-150A service distributed through the house anyway and a good portion of that is taken up through dedicated circuitry for washers, dryers, HVAC equipment, microwaves, ovens etc...

So if someone wants to "up" their home service for one of these charging stations they are looking at a pretty significant investment and residential power work is a total PITA because NOBODY has any idea how much load they actually suck up until it's to late and it becomes the OH S H Y T....what circuit can we live without.

You wouldn't need the giant equipment I had to install but you will most likely need to increase service amperage, which will likely require a new panel and re wiring...and then either an exterior station or dedicated circuitry in the garage or outside to charge. Toss in underground fees, permits, etc....it just doesn't work.

I don't have a problem with these applications....I think it is kinda cool...but overall....something like is this NEVER a savings....it is an investment with a very long if ever and ROI based on the useful life of a car or a system such as this.

CLASS DISMISSED!

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Originally posted by BP758:
120 volt yes but… only 2-3 miles of charge per hour! That’s Tesla’s print..

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Originally posted by Footloose:
You get a roof rack then put a harbour freight generator on top filled with $5 gallon gas and your set if pelosi turns your power off.