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Bracket Talk Bracket Talk Forum General Discussion - by FTI Top Dragster - is this a DQ?Go | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply | |
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He really let it hang out. Does this DQ him from the event? Frank Carpinelli 3230 TD .013 .987 2.554 3.848 190.40 4.968 5.976 209.23 | ||
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DRR S/Pro |
Yup, he is going home with a 5.97 time slip to hang on the wall. 3.84 to the 1/8th, as someone who has gone that quick in the 1/8th, I dont know how does he not know he is going that fast | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
Thanks Steve. Sucks he got sent home from Indy. Oh, and Rusty B sitting #1 with one session to go. . | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
Carpinielli went under 6.10 yesterday in Q1 so obviously he needs to learn how to slow it down | |||
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It was pretty cool out in q2 this morning J.R. Baxter ""Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured ..but not everyone must prove they are a citizen." 2025 Miller Rolla Competition Engines ProCharger Hoosier Tires Abruzzi | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
Did'nt he go under at Norwalk Too? he needs a 1000ft tune up,lol | |||
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DRR Top Comp |
IMO that is bs. So guy went too fast. Make him run another qualifying run or not in field. Hell anyone can have equipment failure like stops not working or timing controller f-up. I k ow it is rule but one that need changing to allow guys to correct issues. WTF happened to innovation in drag racing.NHRA killed it. America home of free. Brought to you by 2nd amendment. | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
Faster than 6.00 requires different equipment certifications, floater, wing, etc. So the "event" disqualification is due to the lack of proper equipment. 5.99 and quicker is a bit more serious than just dipping below the Index. The -.10 below the Index is a grace area (no penalty area), below that it's a different can of worms. Some folks are pretty skilled at knowing where, and how much to dump. 6.101 at 200 is a fair indication that they know, (not guess) where and when to leave the party. Bob | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
Isn't a floater rear required in TD an TS? | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
I believe it is in TD but not in TS. Someone correct me | |||
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A floater rear end is required in Top Alcohol Dragster and Funny Car, it can be used in a TD but not required, most TD's do not have one. There are other driver and chassis TAD requirements to go quicker than 6.00. I don't remember ever seeing one in a T/S, might be one or two, I've just never seen it. Still can't go quicker than 6.00. Bob | |||
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DRR Top Comp |
I got no dog in this fight so just throwing this out there. I understand NHRA stance on under 6.00 even though I think it is too strict. I think the Event Disqualification is probably for insurance and liability reasons. Should something happen at 5.99 or faster then they would sue saying NHRA knew the car was not made or certified to run that speed and NHRA is responsible because they allowed it. Since they made the 6.10 rule it seems to me like it is a fast bracket race. So why not make it a 6.10 INDEX race or even a 6.90 INDEX? Similar to Super Gas and Super Comp but faster. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
Because you would loose half the field. TD has done a better job filling fields than TS. These cars are running TAD speeds and most cases sub 5’s. I think the faster cars in the class needs a TAD spec. Just to protect everyone. JMO.. Think you are correct on the insurance issue too. California Screaming! Raceless in California! | |||
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You are correct Curly it is a faster bracket race, a really fast one. Dumping at 230+ mph is a bit challenging, you only have to skrew up a little to create a lot of scrap metal. Part of the concern is the speed differential between someone getting into the class with a 175 mph Super Comp dragster and racing a 234 mph fast actuall Top Dragster. 48 car fields (Division 7) insure that's going to happen. Barry (BP758) might have the right answer, at 230 (which is about 184 at 660) perhaps some adjustment to the TD spec should change to a TAD spec. 248 mph has already happened and it's likely to happen again. Question: #1: What does a dragster involved in a 75 mph collision look like. Some re-thing needs to happen. Question #2: How do you disqualify (From the event) a legal TAD competing in Top Dragster if he/she goes under the 6.00 Index? Bob | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
The rule applies to the class as a whole, so no matter the chassis spec, still cant go under… even if a TAD wanted to run with us they cant go under J.R. Baxter ""Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured ..but not everyone must prove they are a citizen." 2025 Miller Rolla Competition Engines ProCharger Hoosier Tires Abruzzi | |||
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If I was to build a new fast TD, having a floater rear end would not even be in question. My TD ran 6.00 @ 235 and I always wished it had one for safety reasons alone but the chassis was originally built to TD spec in 2011 when a 6.50 car was fast. As far as the 6.10 rule, it came out a year after I entered TD. Did I like it, hell no after building my car to run on the floor of the class but just had to deal with it. IMO The rule of being booted out for going under is self policing, if you go under its your own fault and nobody else's | |||
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