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easy peasy!

14 rounds 3 days ago, nothing but fuel and charge 12 of 14 rounds. Those other 2 rounds no time to stop at the pit so no fuel, no charge.

Trans temp saw a high of 190.

He’ll I went 14 rounds 20 years ago in my Chevelle, enroute to my 1st Wally win. NBD



2 races in a single day on the 14 rounds?

We have those fairly often. Winning both in one day is fun.


14 rounds in one day. Hell car wouldn't be issue unless Nov. thru March. My heat hating ass would say crew that. Been cussing the heat for two weeks anf figure mid Septemebr before I stop.LOL




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easy peasy!

14 rounds 3 days ago, nothing but fuel and charge 12 of 14 rounds. Those other 2 rounds no time to stop at the pit so no fuel, no charge.

Trans temp saw a high of 190.

He’ll I went 14 rounds 20 years ago in my Chevelle, enroute to my 1st Wally win. NBD



2 races in a single day on the 14 rounds?

We have those fairly often. Winning both in one day is fun.


14 rounds in one day. Hell car wouldn't be issue unless Nov. thru March. My heat hating ass would say crew that. Been cussing the heat for two weeks anf figure mid Septemebr before I stop.LOL


You live in N.C.! Known for the summer heat and called the Tar Heel state for good reason !

I just walked 6.75 miles and it's close to 90 here....no firesuit but it was warm....I like it hot !
 
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driver that HATEs keat and now days like lot less and body does not like it.

I have been asked why not let someone else drive? I built it and going to be only one to drive it. If something stupid happens it is all on me.

Plus built car for fun and heat kills the fun. especially when just takes breath away ,Literally makes breathing feel harder.




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easy peasy!

14 rounds 3 days ago, nothing but fuel and charge 12 of 14 rounds. Those other 2 rounds no time to stop at the pit so no fuel, no charge.

Trans temp saw a high of 190.

He’ll I went 14 rounds 20 years ago in my Chevelle, enroute to my 1st Wally win. NBD



2 races in a single day on the 14 rounds?

We have those fairly often. Winning both in one day is fun.


14 rounds in one day. Hell car wouldn't be issue unless Nov. thru March. My heat hating ass would say crew that. Been cussing the heat for two weeks anf figure mid Septemebr before I stop.LOL


You live in N.C.! Known for the summer heat and called the Tar Heel state for good reason !

I just walked 6.75 miles and it's close to 90 here....no firesuit but it was warm....I like it hot !


walked 6.75 miles. Why? run out of gas? LOL




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I find the question, "what makes a bracket car?" interesting. To me, it is a mindset from the beginning of the buildup, to do everything possible to make the package mechanically perfect. Starting, idling, part throttle performance, cooling system, electrical system, converter, transmission, rear axle, brakes, everything works in harmony to product a mechanically perfect package. In addition, a mindset that the driver will discipline himself to drive the package to its potential. We do not live and race in a perfect world, so my comments need to be balance with reality, however, one must strive for excellence.

In my mind, the only competition is from within. Consistent routine, consistent performance, consistent reaction, this is the essence of a bracket racer.


After rereading Larrys reply.

Thinking about design and build. Higher seat position for better veiw of finish line.
Chassis designed to flex front end to keep wheel in light,better reacts.
Wieght placed for better drivablity.Like engine 52 out,battery in the nose, fuel tank behind fron axle, weight in steering arms on left as is weight in canard. All to keep frontend down and left front not yank out of light.
Hand brake which should be law in FED.Is actually a drag brake for finsih line.Enough to slow but not enough to lock up.
Chute made for easy swap so if used pull few pins and install second pack and go.
Transmission now has pit circulation system for extra cooling in pits. Same thing for oild system. A extra to help with the no cooling system on car. Both can be connected in minute and flip a switch.
Rear gear picked for softer hit online and not break tires loose.
Converter loose suppose to be more consistent.
Few trick pieces in fuel system to aide in temp control.
Not a car out that has better veiw of other car and finish line position. almost 20' from my butt to front end.If car is not in sight I better be tugging the drag brake or owner will kick my a$$.If anything too much veiw.

Basically, while a FED is not the good all-bracket car that a fourling dragster is. Go with Larry's thoughts on design from the beginning.I find it hard to see how much more could go into the design just to make it fit the need for bracket racing.
Is it a ready made tune up that everyone has for a RED? Hell no, but where is the fun in that.
Does it need to be out running? HFY. Sometimes schedules just screw up life. Plus working on TA/D, especially A/fuel takes up quite a bit of time. Headsup will always be more of a passion for me.




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A Grid and an ARC module? Big Grin


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A Grid and an ARC module? Big Grin


Dang just when I thought I had all bases covered

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A steering wheel, an engine and a bit of confidence can make ANYTHING a bracket car.


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A bracket car typically has a focus on consistency, low maintenance and being able to round-robin and not necessarily all out, maximum ET.
Yes, you can enter any car in a bracket race... I can beat a nail into a piece of wood with a pipe wrench but that doesn't make it a hammer.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BD104X:
A bracket car typically has a focus on consistency, low maintenance and being able to round-robin and not necessarily all out, maximum ET.
Yes, you can enter any car in a bracket race... I can beat a nail into a piece of wood with a pipe wrench but that doesn't make it a hammer.[/QUOTE

As a General contractor, I can tell hammers are for pulling nails not putting them. LOL

I Agree with low maintenance between rounds for most. I have to work on it if more than 5 minutes sitting. Agree about consistency and that means not going man I can get another hundredth if I-----, That is the hardest thing about it. Kind of like letting a fat chick loose in a candy store after 3 months of dieting.




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After going thru some of your posts. It lloks like general concenus is if you enter a race that you dial a number for the car to run. You race another competitor doing the same and the first one to the stripe w/o going to quick,wins. Anything can be a bracket car, Regardless of what some here think about it having to fit a specific criteria.

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Show us your tickets from one weekend bracket racing starting with Rd 1.
 
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How about if we change it to

What makes a car a bracket car that Might be able to win A round...or even multiple rounds.....

Any car can be entered and line up with another racer for a round of competition...

If your opponent blows up, fouls, crosses the center line or hits the wall....that don't count...LOL

I just watched a Tesla going 6.2's and winning some rounds.....he even had a stripe taker.....Now that's a friggen impressive bracket car....
 
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Ediot.

Doubt I will be taking advice from someone who says you can not ground the starter at the aluminum block.The block that it is mounted in and attaches to the engine and forms the ground that the starter works off of. We will not even get into fact that house had aluminum wiring for years or that aluminum is great conductor of electricity.

I have a habit of listening to lots of views and opinions but do limit it to people of knowledge and especially that of winners. Most of all people I respect. By the way you do not qualify.

If concerned about folks posting then don't waste space commenting to folks who don;t give a shyt about your opinion. Oh and a lot here qualify for that opinion of your opinion.




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The ramblings of a clueless red neck poor boy Laughing very hard
 
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Ed the king of shyt. Knows nothing so he adds nothing.




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What I know is you’re a clueless backwoods red neck with a pos that is not and never will be a competitive bracket car and therefore you are not a bracket racer and never will be so why do you post here? Numerous members have PM’d me over the years laughing at your idiocy and constant buffoonery like this 6 weeks ago..

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Chris McBride Only person I know who can break a new starter so;enoid, a trans brake solenoid, two new fuel fittings and not sure about rest of car in one weekend. Bad part never even got down the track and only staged up once.


and this POS still isn’t ready to get off the starting line under its own power! Falling of chair laughing Laughing very hard
 
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Just ask Ed. Ed knows everything. He can define what a bracket car is. This site is destroyed by the all-knowing Ed which is why I rarely post anymore.
 
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Thanks to all who had reply regarding to question and actual knowledge. Always enjoy exchange with like minded racers. A shame that a forum such as this with nice folks has allowed a useless POS to screw up 90% of the threads on it. Guess click counts are more important than having an awesome forum to those in charge.

Moving on up to the high road,which in this case may still be under ground but higher.




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